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mounting an audrey under a kitchen cabinet

New MessageMounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) jzack
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Think I figured out a pretty easy way to mount an Audrey under a kitchen cabinet and let it swivel up/down under the cab to get it out of the way.

Have other folks out there wanted to do this? I was going to write this up but not if folks don't really care to do it?????

Let me know.

03-14-2002 20:16:02

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) booya
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I am always interested in cool idea's, but appriciate your time. If you have done it already I would really like to see a picture. Thanks.
03-14-2002 21:36:52

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) bholio
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I would be interested in a description and/or pictures..
03-15-2002 14:25:14

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) adam714
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yes, i'd like to see.
03-15-2002 15:33:06

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Vermifuge
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I would like to see this. i was thinking of getting an audrey for the kitchen.
03-16-2002 03:06:47

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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jzack,

I'm not trying to steal your thunder, but I have posted some pictures of a wall mount that I made to mount an Audrey on the wall between the cabinet and the counter.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/skay707/audrey_mount.htm

Steve

03-16-2002 21:47:03

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) booya
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Nice work Steve! Looks great.
03-16-2002 22:53:20

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) galt
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Very nice job. Any chance you could post the plans or better yet, why not sell them?
03-17-2002 10:22:58

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) adam714
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still want to see jzack's version
03-17-2002 15:23:36

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) TechSter
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WOW! fantastic work on the mount and very thorough pictures. I would be interested in buying a mount like that. If you wouldn't sell them, could you give us the dimensions or post plans?
How much time & money do you estimate is in your mount?
Again, very impressed... I think the wife would even accept this classy stand.
03-17-2002 18:17:20

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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Thanks for the kind comments.

I didn't make plans or dimensions. I mostly used the Audrey and mocked-up the various pieces to see how things would work. I published the pictures in hopes of inspiring others to come up with unique mounting methods.

However, I'm no dummy. If enough people are interested, I may consider producing some for others.

I spent about 12 hours designing and fabricating the mount. I had the wood lying around from other projects. The dowels were 8 cents each.

Steve
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/skay707/audrey_mount.htm

03-17-2002 18:51:30

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) JasonJ
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Steve,

that looks pretty sweet. Could you post the dimensions on the different pieces? I have all the tools and the wood and a few ideas, but really like the look of yours.

Thanks,
Jason

ps - what happened to jzack's pictures?

03-18-2002 16:17:18

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) jzack
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Hi Folks,

Steve -- nice job on the wall mounts!!! Sorry, I don't have a web cam (I know, how lame) - but my method to mount the Audrey under a kitchen cabinet is pretty simple. Here's the parts you'll need:

- 16 inch length of 1 inch diameter tubing (I used an old shower rod, light and shinny too)
- 2 white plastic end caps for rod
- 3 white (medium size - 6.5 inches long, 1/8 in wide) wire ties, same things police use as plastic type handcuffs for crowd control, etc.

- 2 conduit fasteners for attaching shower rod to underneath of kitchen cabinet
---Fasteners can the white nylon type, wraps around the entire shower rod with screw holes thru both ends to allow attachment - just needs 1 screw to hold in place.
---Fastener could be the U shaped metal type with flange/screw hole at each end, this type is used for plumbing and electrical metal conduit - needs 2 screws to hold
- 2 or 4 wood screws + 4 or so 1.5 inch drywall screws.
- 1 16 inch length of 2x3 or 2x4 (whatever you have on hand)

You can get all this stuff in Home Depot or other home supply place...

Prepare you audrey: If you haven't already - remove the audrey translucent wire cover on the back panel. This is the removable plastic cover that is suppose to keep your phone and power cables in place, it is suppose to come off! Insert a wire tie into one of the flat 1/4 inch slots (near top of audrey) used by this cover. Use a paper clip or small thin screw driver to guide the wire tie up and out thru one of the air hole slots right above 1/4 slot. This is actually pretty easy to do if you push on the tie while guiding the other end up out of the air hole. Note: Wire tie needs to be on slight angle pointing in the stylus pen slot direction since that's the easiest way to get it on its way (up). Do the other slot the same way. Center the shower rod across the back of the audrey and fasten the wire ties, then trim the wire ties down as needed to cut off any excess. You now have an audrey with a shower rod nestled on its back, this rod will be resting on top of the plastic piece where the power cable plugs in.

My kitchen cabinet has a trim piece on the bottom that's 1.5 inches wide, if you wanted to, you could mount a small flat florescent light underneath and the trim piece would hide most of the light -- believe this is pretty standard for many cabinets.

It turns out this is great for hiding hiding some of the audrey mounting materials.

Measured back about 4 inches from the front of the cabinet and screwed the 16 inch 2x4 to the bottom running left to right (used wood screws + washers from the inside). Make sure you center this piece of wood since this is where the audrey is going. I used the white nylon conduit fasteners that only need 1 screw to attach -- wrapped them around the shower rod and then fastened to the 2x4 underneath the cabinet. These fasteners are positioned about 1 inch from the ends of the show rod. The 2x4 allows the audrey to hang just below the cabinet shelf with enough clearance so it doesn't hit anything but can still swing back and forth.

If you decide to use the metal U shaped conduit fastners, cut the 16in. 2x4 in half and mount each piece length wise from front to back underneath the cabinet, so that it on each side of the audrey. I'm not yet sure which approach holds up better to use and abuse? I did not try this one yet, but might need to go to it? It is more complicated to do, so I took the easy way out.

Use a wire wrap to secure the power cable and USB or phone line to the (folded closed) wire stand on the back of the audrey -- might even want to use two wire wraps (your choice).

You can now swivel the audrey down and backwards to get it out of the way. We are leaving it down for now, but I plan to make either a velcro strap or locate a small wood block with a velcro fastner on it and on the audrey so I can fold it up under the cabinet when we need the counter space below.

I'm still thinking about adding some friction (maybe a wrap of cloth tape around the shower rod?) to make it easier for the audrey be positioned (slight angle) for better readability. The nylon tie wraps and conduit fasteners on the shower rod are a little more slippery than I thought they'd be - maybe I should have used some sand paper to roughen up the shower rod that's hidden behind the audrey where the tie wraps hold it in place? Just a thought here.

I'll try to get a hold of a camera (soon) and get some pixs posted.

03-18-2002 19:30:04

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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galt, TechSter, JasonJ and others,

I've added a diagram showing the approximate dimensions of my wall mount.

I've also added information on contacting me if you would like me to make a mount for you. If there is sufficient interest, I will make a "batch".

Steve
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/skay707/audrey_mount.htm

03-19-2002 21:26:10

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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Oops, I left some critical dimensions off of the diagram.

Steve
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/skay707/audrey_mount.htm

03-20-2002 20:57:58

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) JasonJ
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Steve,

That is really sweet. I think I'm going to try to make one this weekend if I have time. I did have one quick question. On your keyboard shelf tray, what is the distance from the 1/8" lip to the top of the piece? It appears to be just over half of the height of the piece, but I wasn't sure. That seems to be the most important part, as it holds the keyboard snugly. Thanks again.

Jason J

04-01-2002 13:52:05

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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Jason,
Actually, the critical dimensions are the thickness of the upper edge of the shelf and the angle of the cut along the back. I am currently making a batch of ten wall mounts for others, and I am making some improvements to this. On my original mount, the keyboard is a bit "wiggly". Try making the upper edge 3/16" and the angle of the cut 5 degrees. I will try to update my diagram soon. The distance to the lip should be great enough to clear the lip on the back of the keyboard without interference.
Steve
Audrey Wall Mount
04-01-2002 16:04:44

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Replayer
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Steve,

You do amazing work. It really looks nice! May I ask how much you are charging?

Thanks.

04-01-2002 21:00:52

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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Replayer,
Email me at stevebracket@comcast.net and I will send you details.
Steve
Audrey Wall Mount
04-01-2002 21:18:47

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) LeBorg
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Actually there was a wall mount bracket scheduled for release to the public before 3Com canned Audrey. There was an industrial metal one, and then there was one that mounted to the cabinet, and the Audrey would flip down. While it was flipped up, the speakers would be pointed out to the room. The idea was to run RealPlayer or something and then when needed, flip down for use. If I get the time, I'll take some pics of the metal bracket and post it.
04-04-2002 09:35:44

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Fran
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LeBorg - that would be great if you could find a picture of that metal one. I appeared on TechTV on the hacking Audrey segment and the gentlemen before me demonstrated his mp3 player. He was using a very cool, very integrated metal wall mount that sort of gripped Audrey (!) ever-so-slightly around the sides, taking advantage of the angular shape of the unit to "drop in". It had a keyboard tray underneath that appeared as if it would swivel up/down and out of the way. Is this the one?
04-04-2002 11:52:59

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Replayer
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Are any of those metal ones available ANYWHERE? Please let us know. Thanks.
04-04-2002 12:08:14

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) adam714
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that would be awesome. if someone could get there hands on a picture maybe we can build it. or better yet, maybe we should start a petition and send it to 3com!
04-04-2002 12:08:54

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) bmann
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Someone had one of these on ebay and it had instructions/drawings with it, but the image was too poor to really see it, but it was an official 3Com....I should of contacted the seller to get a better scan.
04-04-2002 14:06:11

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Fran
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OK - I captured three screen shots from the TechTV segment that had the Audrey mounting bracket. I don't have anywhere to upload them, but I'd be happy to mail them to anyone who does. Let me know.
04-05-2002 00:21:26

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Seven
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I'd like to take a look at those images. Email to seven@XXXainsworth.net. Remove the XXX.
04-05-2002 08:48:41

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) davinci27
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send them this way and I'll upload them to my site davinci27(at)handcoder(dot)com

davinci27

04-05-2002 08:53:58

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) adam714
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let us know when and where. i can't wait to see it!
04-05-2002 17:15:27

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 1 times) jayt
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There are several manufacturers of LCD monitor mounts that likely could be adapted to use with Audrey, such as this one from peerless industries http://www.peerlessindustries.com/lcd_tv_ucab_swiv.htm Tough to justify $150 - $200 for a mount when I only paid $60 for the Audrey!

jayt

04-05-2002 22:02:01

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) JonJon
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I had sor of the same idea, except I wanted to mount mine on top of the stereo. I use it basically only as an MP3 player and picture frame. Check out these two pictures. I used 1/2" by 2" poplar, a circular saw, a band saw, and a router. I still haven't created a stand for it, I just have it leaning up against a rock... My next version will not have the email button or the circular channel knob. I will just clip it right off of the board, hopefully it won't cause a problem so I don't have to solder it back on... Here are the pics. I will post the designs if anyone is interested.
http://acad.stedwards.edu/~jfranci3/audrey/Audrey1.jpg
http://acad.stedwards.edu/~jfranci3/audrey/Audrey2.jpg
04-06-2002 16:01:23

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Replayer
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Oh my gosh, that looks so good!!! I am impressed!

It looks a lot like the Kodak digital frame that I paid $99 for around Christmastime (before I had Audrey)...


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004ZCMW/qid=1018237183/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1757391-5691214/

Nice work!

~Replayer

04-07-2002 20:49:51

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Replayer
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davinci27,

Has Fran forwarded those photos of the 3com mounting kit to you yet? I can't wait until you post them somewhere. I am dying to see them.
Thanks,
~Replayer

04-08-2002 08:57:05

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) galt
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Just got my mounting bracket that Steve made for me. Very nice. Great workmanship and design. Thanks Steve!

Galt

04-08-2002 14:58:51

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) smk707
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Galt,
Thanks for the kind comments.

Jason,
I've updated my diagram to improve the dimensions of the keyboard shelf for a more snug fit (snugger?) of the keyboard.

Now if I could just whittle a new CF slot.


Steve
Audrey Wall Mount
04-08-2002 18:07:39

New MessageMystery wall mount ... (modified 0 times) Fran
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Posted the screen captures here

http://homeseer.infopop.net/3/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=697298074&f=9352978952&m=2142970672

04-09-2002 22:57:21

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) chucklehead
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JonJon: I would be very interested in seeing the plans for that picture frame mount.
Or possibly buying one pre-assembled from you...
How do you handle the keyboard though? Otherwise that looks quite cool for an in-wall mount also...
04-10-2002 11:50:22

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) ABJim
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Is there a way to see those pics without joining Homeseer?
04-10-2002 12:52:20

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Sketchy
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I grabbed them from the HomeSeer board and posted them to my site. Hope it's OK to link to them here:

Wall Mount 1
Wall Mount 2
Wall Mount 3


-- Jim
ACID and other Audrey apps
04-10-2002 14:03:10

New MessageRE:Mounting under Kitchen Cabinet (modified 0 times) Seven
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Got 'em

Got my two wooden wall mounts for the Audrey in today and I have to say that they are excellent. Very well put together and nice looking. Job well done, Steve. If Steve is still taken orders, I highly recommend these mounts.

04-12-2002 12:27:20

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