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eBulletin (modified 0 times) davinci27 Profile What is eBulletin? I've seen it mentioned in severla posts, but a search doesn't turn up any information about the hack. davinc27 04-09-2002 08:52:13

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile eBulletin is a set of scripts that i put together for shelf to launch Paint + LED together, urgent=blinking LED, attention=LED On, sorta like post-it notes with led indication, since paint and LED states alone are pretty useless. 04-09-2002 09:10:02

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) AudreyX3 Profile DaVinci27, Look at some of the posts by Infinity. It is a "Post It Note" kind of deal where you scribble the message using Paint, I think. You choose whether the LED is on steady or flashes. http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=1325&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=audreyx3.101836837018772 Audrey X3 04-09-2002 09:17:19

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) davinci27 Profile These are things that would be great to post to the list in hack form versus just putting into your images. davinci27 04-09-2002 09:20:43

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) davistw1 Profile I agree, I would much rather have a "How to" than "XYZ is in my image". I would love to add this to my Aud but I have her the way I want her and don't want to start with someone else's image. Share the Info..... 04-09-2002 09:43:21

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile The best thing to do is back-up your image, then flash Infinity's image and look at what he's done. This eBulletin was done differently than what I did in Jukeboxes image. Infinity created a file with the script in it and ran that from the shell instead of putting the action script in the shelf or hard button. I totally agree about the list of 'How to Hacks' being a great resource, but who would do it? The best solution I think would be to post individual 'How to's' in this forum and have each hack have a descriptive title and only that hack. Most of the info is burried in an unrelated thread. So, if you know how to do something, post it in its own thread with a good title so someone could find it in a search? 04-09-2002 09:50:43

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile I will post a separate "eBulletin how to" thread in more detail this afternoon so everyone who wants these features can add them to their images. I will also add a separate "RandomPic screen Saver how to" thread in detail describing the process on how to add my RandomPic screen saver hack to your image. Please do not reply to these threads cluttering them up and making them difficult to follow. if you need answers please open a new thread starting with the word "Help .....". http://home.attbi.com/~kenzhao8/index.html 04-09-2002 10:06:59

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile I don't want to look what infinity has done with my earlier hack about Paint and the led, but you could use these 3 scripts: Paint & SetLEDState 0 & Paint & SetLEDState 1 & Paint & SetLEDState 2 & To have Paint on screen with led off, blinking, or on. The & may not be necessary, but doesn't hurt either. In my images you run Paint and one of these led scripts separate, that's the only difference. And the name of course for this hack. jukebox http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html 04-09-2002 10:11:00

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile Sorry, scripts would be: helper_starter Paint & SetLEDState 0 & helper_starter Paint & SetLEDState 1 & helper_starter Paint & SetLEDState 2 & jukebox http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html 04-09-2002 10:14:24

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile here we go again, you didn't implement paint and led in your old jukebox3 image, so i don't know where the heck you are coming out with the idea that i did something with your paint and led scripts. there were no scripts for paint, there wasn't even a shelf item to launch paint, yeah try launching paint with just helper_starter paint in shelf and see if anything happens. Let's face it you looked at the refinements i made and slowly incorporating them into your images. You all should thank me for the Windows style shelf, what is known now as shelf.cfg that you download from the repository, to fix your network connection, shelf crashes and slow reaction time. you are probably enjoying the better placement and app windows sizing too, and how come that was not answered before. There were many threads asking about how to maximize windows or have a certain app open properly, not half way off the screen. Alot of people know how to do the same stuff that you think you know how. eBulletin was suggested by bmann in one of my earlier threads. come on we all know that I gave you full credit for your work, even in my earliest post. you must be one hell of a sensitive fella juke. 04-09-2002 11:01:46

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile Let's put this straight. I explained in my thread before you implemented Paint yourself, to bmann I believe how to activate Paint and it worked. You think I'm stupid and I left Paint in my image because I forgot? The led blink, on, off scripts were in my image before yours too. Second all credit to resolve the network problem with shelf goes to Sean_F who made the discovery that CPU Monitor causes these and it was NOT you who discovered that. Third my new "windows style" shelf for all my images remotely resembles yours and is NOT the same, nor did you ever explain in detail how you did yours. You are a master in riding the waves on this board and take credit for things you didn't do and you still have to make your first image you can call your own. jukebox http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html 04-09-2002 11:41:33

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile I don't want in the middle of this, but I have feedback on eBulletin. I've tried all of the Jukebox images because just adding 'helper_starter paint' opened paint, but it would always disappear a bit after midnight. I originally thought that it didn't autoclose on the Jukebox3.cf (wrong) when using the shelf, the hard buttons and action pallette still closed it around midnight. I loaded the Infinityaudrey1.1.cf last night and I think paint is staying open. It did spaz out with screen saver for something and closed paint, but I've disabled the screen save and I think it will work. The Infinity image uses pterm to launch paint (more detail, I'll let Infinity explain it). I thank you both for helping me with paint. It's a great post-it-note and the adding of the flashing LED and opening paint with one button is great. Can't we get along.....if Infinity has an anwser, I think he should share. I actually thought Jukebox would appriciate the help, everyone (esp. me) have been flooding this board with questions and no one person can anwser them all, plus it's alway nice to get a fresh approach. 04-09-2002 11:59:21

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile I want to give infinity all credit for any and all hacks he has done and will do in the future. He deserves it, like everyone else. However I wish he will be less secretive about his hacks. I agree with davincy and I try on my side to give more and more information about what I do myself. The problem is I do so many hacks myself I would need a full time assistant to describe them, but at least I try. jukebox http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html 04-09-2002 12:28:29

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) davinci27 Profile First the useful information: You can launch most native audrey apps with the following command: Paint $(more /data/.rm-pid) $(more /data/.rm-chid) Just substitute Paint with your favorite audrey app. Now for the rant: jukebox and infinity, I have no ill will towards either of you, I’m not biased as I've never used either of your images. I don't mean any offense, but I just think we need to move on. This bitching between infinity and jukebox is getting very old. Guys if you can't work together don't. There is no need in subtle, or not so subtle, jabs at each other. I had a QNX style image out long before either of you, and if someone had taken that image and moved it along in another direction, I may have been a little miffed, but that is the nature of the beast. If you put something up on the internet that is already outside of "legal" (see EULA threads) standards you can't expect to copyright it an call it yours. All of the changes in the jukebox images are hacks that can be found on this board or recreated with a little work. Infinity could have put in the effort to recreate everything, but he decided to work from a "known good" starting point. Neither jukebox nor infinity has any copyrights on where files go or what script access what files. If jukebox or infinity do have hacks that aren't on this board I for 1 am offended that they would reap the benefits of others' work while not sharing their work. I'm working on my audrey image just so people will have a choice that doesn't have all this "noise" surrounding it. As soon as I am satisfied with the install stuff, MQNX 2.0 is on the way. Anyone have requests? davinci27 04-10-2002 09:28:50

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) santur Profile davinci27 Well said. Also thanks for the module/package installation work. I prefer to make incremental changes to my customized version of the Audrey than download the new image. Having said that, I am willing to experiment with new images as I have a spare Audrey. So, can you make the Calendar, Address Book, phJuke, ACID, optionally available so that for those of us who like them continue to use them. Thanks, santur 04-10-2002 11:46:16

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) prohs Profile My wife likes the channel knob. Is there a way to keep it functional in your next version? Thanks 04-10-2002 18:10:36

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Well, any other ideas?? Paint still closes at midnight. I've tried all jukebox's and Infinity's images, plus the new way of launching programs davinci27 suggested. This sucks. I like leaving a message with a sketch or something for my girl friend to see in the morning, but I can do it until 12:30 and sometimes I like to go to sleep before that. Can someone verify this. Open paint before midnight and after 12:15 see if it's still there. I'm going nuts here. Also, my password change here for some reason????? Thanks for the help everyone, I hope we find a solution to this. I saw a post recently about MemDefrag that might be related??? I guess that I can sit there and monitor Neutrino Sin it see was process launches to Slay my paint. Grrrrrrrrr 04-11-2002 07:05:15

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile i will have to test out paint myself to see what is happening at midnight. I had a few instances of audrey falling into a coma and it might also be related to memdefrag. I did notice memdefrag runs at 12:07am everynight so that might be causing the problem. you can try commenting out the memdefrag line in kcron and see what happens. if you look at kcron all the lines that are commented out did not have a - infront of them except memdefrag, so i am not sure what the - is doing there. I took the - out yesterday and changed the time to something else, it ran fine with no side effects after memdefrag ran. http://home.attbi.com/~kenzhao8/index.html 04-11-2002 08:20:40

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile Cool, I'll try that. 12:07 am sounds like the time it happens. And the funny thing is that only paint closes, other programs like ped will still be open. And the LED will still be flashing. 04-11-2002 08:38:14

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile normally if you try to start paint without helper_starter it will produce a memory fault error. Since paint uses helper_starter to start it, when memdefrag runs i suspect it reclaims all the resources that are used by helper_starter and therefore closing any apps that are running helper_starter. So commenting out memdefrag in kcron should solve your problem. 04-11-2002 08:57:05

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) davinci27 Profile I think all helper_starter is doing is re launching Paint and supplying phid and chid which is the same thing my way of launching does. You should be able to read the value of phid and chid and launch 'Paint 1 18765' whatever the appropriate numbers. All this aside, I think you'll find the answer in the kcrontab file. It sounds like this happens at the same time every night. kcron is responsible for executing programs at set times, so I would try that. I'd suggest restarting your audrey after making changes in krontab so you know they are loaded into kron. davinci27 04-11-2002 09:42:17

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) booya Profile Funny my MemDefrag was set to run a 4:46 and I had the same problems bmann's having with Paint but with PhJuke. I took MemDefrag out of cron. Audrey ran fine for a day or so and then, seemed unstable. I put MemDefrag back in without the "-" as well and everything seems to be ok. PhJuke doesn't disapear at 4:46 anymore. I changed the time to 4:43 and let it run.. MemDefrag ran (I'm pretty sure) first then a few minutes later time updated. The screen was off when time updated so I didn't see it happen but when I turned her back on it had the proper time. I wonder if when the kcron runs to update time if Audrey pops a screen up? This maybe a way to still get NTP without the blue box that says "updating time from internet" or what ever it says without an external qnx ntp client. I think I remember seeing somewhere that it was 300k or so. I will check on that tonight. Is there a way to add other apps into kcron to have them run? I haven't been able to add others. Infinity, can you post the script that you use to launch paint and set the LED on? Thanks. Get help, chat, and be merry.. Join #audrey on Efnet 04-11-2002 14:54:48

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile How do you reset the time that the updates happen. I'd like to leave memdefrag running automatically, but in the morning, about 10:00 am so it can close paint then and I wouldn't care. Taking out the "-" might fix the problem, but I still would like it to happen at 10:00 am... Thanks 04-11-2002 15:04:28

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile i think i figured it out: -MemDefrag;7;10;*;*;* should happen at 10:07 am, right.. :) booya, what's the deal wit the "-". you said you remove it from yours?? what does "-" do? 04-11-2002 15:27:20

RE:eBulletin (modified 2 times) booya Profile Hmmm.. I thought I removed the "-" but I DIDN'T. I am a little confused now because I haven't had PhJuke lose focus for that last 2 nights. Here is what I did.. I removed -MemDefrag from /config/kcrontab and rebooted. I went to bed that night and left PhJuke running. In the morning it still had focus so I thought cool, its working. The only problem was that evening, I was playing music and all of a sudden it stopped. Then some other strange stuff started happening that I had never seen happen before. I didn't really let it run without MemDefrag more than one night. That night I put it back in kcrontab, I thought it was put back without the "-" but in my check just now I see that the "-" is there. I don't know why PhJuke isn't losing focus anymore since technically nothing has changed. It was removed but put right back. I will need a few more days to try other things and hopefully understand what is really happening. I am pretty sure based on the first day of running without a MemDefrag that it needs to be run but it was only one day so I will probably try that again also. You are correct about the format of the kcrontab #app; min; hour; day; dweek; month -MemDefrag;46;4;*;*;* setitime;50;4;*;*;* maild;/5;*;*;*;* Get help, chat, and be merry.. Join #audrey on Efnet 04-11-2002 16:03:45

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile I believe I disabled kcron completely in the lates versions of both "Antoher QNX Image" and the "USB" version. I think a reboot is utlimately a very good way to defrag your memory. However I'm under the impression that both images run for days ot weeks at a time, but I can be mistaken because I reboot all the time when I work on them. Time will tell. jukebox http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html 04-11-2002 16:15:04

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile booya, here is what i did in /kojak 1. do ln -s execv blinkpaint 2. create blinkpaint.sh 3. edit blinkpaint.sh to launch SetLEDStates 2 helper_starter Paint 4. remember to chmod +x blinkpaint* 5. repeat steps 1-4 for steady LED + Paint 6. launch /kojak/blinkpaint in shelf http://home.attbi.com/~kenzhao8/index.html 04-12-2002 05:35:31

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) booya Profile Thanks Infinity. here is what I have created in /bin/memopad #!/bin/sh SetLEDState 1 Paint 1 1 SetLEDState 0 It runs "SetLEDState 1" first to blink the LED then runs "Paint 1 1" (I noticed davinci's posted above and tested using other values i.e. Paint 1 1 and it appers that the actual phid and chid that the other kojak apps are using is not required). Paint is executed and the script stops and waits for Paint to finish. After a user hits exit on Paint the script continues running and turns off the LED via SetLEDState 0. I launch it from a hyperlink in my .Channel00 setup. Question.. Paint in the scribble email function of Audrey has a much wider ink stroke. When I run paint by its self the ink stroke is very thin and looks sloppy. Is there a way to make the ink stroke wider when running Paint by its self? Get help, chat, and be merry.. Join #audrey on Efnet 04-13-2002 12:09:06

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bmann Profile ok, it memdefrag and resetting the time solved it, plus it now autocloses mid-morning (after we need it). Ok, it's still a pain, but until someone post something better, it's great - thanks booya, nice add with the LED off Exit. i've got email.sh set to "SetLedState 0" and that wakes Audrey up and turns off LED (if background has focus yada yada) thanks everyone 04-13-2002 18:16:46

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) bman28 Profile Thanks for posting the procedure Infinity, I added this to a stock Audrey for a frined of mine that wanted something like this. I also created and Icon which I called notepad for the system panel. If anyone is intrested let me know. I used execv to run the shell script that booya suggested. 04-14-2002 09:20:41

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) Infinity Profile originally my intention was to create something like booya's script using helper_starter before and for some strange reason it did not work, so i took out the SetLEDState 0. I think booya's usage of 1 1 (you can pretty much as anything for the second #, it doesn't matter) has something to do with it. This little script works great. http://home.attbi.com/~kenzhao8/index.html 04-14-2002 11:38:04

RE:eBulletin (modified 0 times) booya Profile Can someone put Paint up somewhere so I can download it. I corrupted mine somehow, trying get a wider ink stroke. I don't think Mail uses the Paint application because my copy of Paint isn't exacutable now and the email scribble still works. Get help, chat, and be merry.. Join #audrey on Efnet 04-14-2002 11:55:26

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