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Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible?
Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible?

New MessageAudrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) Ultrajones
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Does anyone know if the Mozilla or Opera browser can be installed on the Audrey? I would be willing to drop all other apps just to get a real browser working.

There were only two references to Monzilla in the QNX knowlege base:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/results.qnx?keyword=Mozilla&os=XXX&product=XXX&category=XXX&number=1&x=11&y=9

How about Opera browser?
http://qnx.tucows.com/preview/258357.html

Regards,
Ultrajones

05-24-2002 14:17:30

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) isellsuccess
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Ultra,

I couldn't agree more... I've been frustrated with this for some time. I now understand that the financial sites require java and can only be viewed with:

Datek's website can be viewed with the latest publicly released versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer, Netscape Navigator/Communicator, AOL, or Web TV

If something as basic as web TV is compatible, why are our "internet appliances" not doing this task? One of the links you provided mentioned that the browser was 1.6 meg. I'm not sure that browser would work with Audrey... Can someone tell us?

Thanks to all of you,

Daniel

Details of QNX - Web Browsers & Tools - Web Browsers Opera 6.0 found below

License: Rating: Size: Date:
Adware 1.6MB April 12th, 2002

Description:

Opera now supports CSS, Java, Java-Script SSL and TLS.
Opera uses multiple windows to navigate the Internet, each one with its own history and home page settings. Other new features include integrated instant messaging, news, e-mail and a search function that's powered by Google.

It also integrates with WAP, which allows the user to browse sites that were written primarily for wireless devices.


http://www.excelinternational.com "helping entrepreneurial spirited corporate burnouts"
06-08-2002 14:19:55

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) jukebox
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I installed Opera 6.0 on the RTP 6.1. (Mozilla is part of a beta program at QNX and needs registration before download). What happens is you continue using voyager as a client, but voyager.server/vserver is replaced by a new server: opera. Opera comes close to MSIE, much better than old voyager and I decided to try to install it on my USB1-1 image. I had to link 4 RTP 6.1 libs and the directory with the Opera files in Audrey and it worked immediately. You can do that in a couple of minutes only. However there is a problem with the Opera server and the text encoding is a kind of messed up. Some pages like audreyhacking.com and the Linux-BBS load perfect, but others show text in unformatted ASCII. I suspect Audrey is missing some fonts, but maybe more before Opera will work as it should. After trying some more pages voyager stopped responding.
I also tried to use voyager form the RTP 6.1, but this brought no improvement over the 6.0 version and had the exact same problems, no surprise because both versions are still voyager 2.1.
This version of Opera could be sqeezed into Audrey, so it might be worthwhile to spend some more time on it, but I have no idea how to resolve this text encoding problem. Roughly you'll need about 2.8 megs of space to add Opera 6.0 when you delete voyager.server/vserver. It would be a great improvement for web browsing with Audrey if someone could resolve this.
However implementing Java is only possible from a share and I don't believe Audrey has enough processing power to handle Java.

jukebox


http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html
06-09-2002 11:51:48

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) Livin
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Juke,
Can you post the instructions and the download info. I'd like to try the Opera broswer. I'd like to use some custom pages I have that use CSS, the stock Audrey browser does not support them. Thanks!
06-10-2002 20:24:51

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) jukebox
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As I wrote before after a couple of pages Audrey became unresponsive. I believe the reason is despite the cache settings in voyager (/tmp) the Opera cache is written in ROOT, /nto/photon/.opera/cache, and the regular storage space fills up.The problem I have with the text encoding is probably a bug in this beta version. since I have a similar problem in the RTP with the same web pages.
Anyhow, if you want to try it. this is how I did it.
First install Opera on your PC in your RTP 6.1. If you use an Audrey image that has ldqnx.so.2 already installed you have to link the following libs/directory in Audrey:
libph.so.2
libphrender.so.2
libm.so.2
libsocket.so.2
libz.so.2
Link all these 5 libs to /nto/lib in Audrey
Link /opt/opera from the RTP to / in Audrey.
Now you can start Opera in Audrey from the command line in terminal with this command:
/opt/opera/opera.sh
I copied the 5 libs and the /opt/opera dir to my share and did the linking from there with the ln -sF command. I had to do that only once and the links survive a reboot and become active again when the share is activated.
Hope this works for you.

jukebox


http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html
06-11-2002 06:27:06

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) Ultrajones
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jukebox,

Is it possible to create an Audrey image so you don't need to link any files on a share (even if it requires dumping other Audrey apps)? I think there any a lot of people that would use Audrey more if the browser actually supported HTML 4, CSS, etc.

By the way... thanks for all the time you have taken to create your custom Audrey images.

Regards,
Ultrajones

06-11-2002 15:01:49

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) jukebox
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If we get opera to work properly I would certainly include opera in an image update. As you can read I only had limited success on Audrey with opera and linking is a way to try things out and resolve problems. At this time it makes no sense to include opera yet. I hope other people will get involved and the problems with the cache and text encoding can be resolved.

jukebox


http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html
06-11-2002 15:50:16

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) Livin
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I agree with Ultra...
In my mind, there are only two things that need to be "upgraded" on the image at this point:
1) Opera
2) 802.11b networking

otherwise, the image is pretty much perfect Juke.

06-13-2002 22:19:44

New MessageRE:Audrey, QNX and the Mozilla or Opera Browser Possible? (modified 0 times) jukebox
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With the new RTP 6.2 came Mozilla in a buggy beta version too and it appears too large to even consider including it in an image for Audrey. Opera has a size that we can handle in Audrey, but it's still beta too and I had 2 problems that I can't resolve. After posting the installation instructions I have my hopes up someone else will do better and post the solution for these problems. If not I will try again with the next version when it comes out.
No new supported USB devices came with the RTP 6.1, very disappointing. So there is still no driver for 802.11b on USB for QNX and Audrey. Nothing I can do about this, although a driver is included now for an Orinoco 802.11b ethernet card. At least we are going in the right direction for wireless, but we still need that USB driver.

jukebox


http://www.prins.net/audrey/index.html
06-14-2002 04:11:39

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