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New Messageupdate server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Hello,

Are the update servers still working?

I have tried:66.17.16.111, and 66.17.16.112, and 206 something i can't remember.

Has anyone been able to get audrey to update recently?

thanks

01-06-2003 08:37:45

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) huggy_d1
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Go to the site directly and it shows it work : http://66.xxxxx. You need to read how to change your DNS so the update sites work.
01-06-2003 12:50:45

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) hod1
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Actually, the admins at 3com have pointed marimba.3com.com to 66.17.16.111. So, you should now be able to update without having to spoof the DNS! Thanks 3com.
01-06-2003 14:14:51

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) eroom
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A couple of days ago I successfully updated my Audrey using the spoofed DNS at 66.17.16.111
I put this address in both the DNS primary and secondary fields, rebooted, and did the old TFS. No problem.
01-06-2003 19:53:05

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Thanks, I think that I have done this already, I set it to static, used the IP address 192.168.0.81, mask 255.255.255.0 and 66.17.16.111 for DNS on both DNS servers.

I have a linux box running ethereal and when I watch the audrey I can see her fire up at the appointed time looking for a time server first then it does multiple DNS queries for 3com.mariba.net it also does a query for www.vs.aparato.net whatever the hell that is. but these queries seem to go unanswered as there is no return traffic.

I am bringing audrey to work tomorrow to see if the lan there is more forgiving than my dual nic'ed XP machine. I have turned off the firewall functions in XP while I try this.

thanks

01-06-2003 20:07:24

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) bob123
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Hi - I have been trying all day via dial up (dont have broad band) and it did not work.
tried 66.17.16.111, 66.17.16.112, 216.102.107.227, 216.145.17.188, 206.184.77.241 and 160.79.101.114
Thanks for any help you all can give me!
01-08-2003 16:02:07

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) preacher
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bob123

Back in the early days of hacking the Audrey, a lot of us ran into this. Basically, the only way to update you unit is to: 1. Find some location with broadband, use an ethernet adapter and update your Audrey; or 2. use a compact flash with an image on it.

I have a unit that REFUSED to update, and had to use #2. Even the ethernet method would not work.

There used to be some folks on here that were willing to load an image on your CF card for you if you did not have that ability.

Sorry for the bad news!

--preacher

01-08-2003 20:43:27

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) bob123
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Thanks Preacher! Can you load an Image on my CF?
01-09-2003 00:30:48

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Mine is one of the ones that just won't update via the net either , bummer.

I am now trying to get the 32 meg pny card that I bought to flash it with UpdateWithShell.cf.
So far I have not been lucky in two tries, but I flashed the card again today, and am waiting until I get home to Audrey to try again.

I feel my problems are in determining the actual size of the CF card. Due to the fact that the easy way to find the size is to have shell access which I don't have yet. [hate those catch-22's]

I tried the trick of booting the blank cf card in debug and got Capacity : 0000F800 [some people have said this is a bogus #]

so.. that is 63488 x 512 = 32,505,856

used that number with mkcf and used ntrw to write to the CF under XP, this gave invalid image on Audrey.
[this time i used dd from cygwin maybe that will be the right mojo]

PS you can't get the MKS toolkit anymore without waiting for a salesperson to call you back in ~ 1-2 days

I have been following the wisdome in this thread mostly.

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=1046&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=


Does anyone happen to know the size of a 32 meg PNY CF card?

thanks

01-09-2003 16:13:26

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Success with Flash!

Well last night was the night, checked the CF card holding datebook and it switched over to the old OS after checking the image. So now I have UpdateWithShell running and all is well.

Here is what I did, I hope it helps someone else, many thanks to all those who posted hints and links to threads explaning the different parts.

Downloaded UpdateWithShell.zip from http://dilligaf.d2g.com/audrey/UpdateWithShell.zip
Downloaded jayklm.zip for md5sum, mkcf, and ntrw, from http://audrey.fizzlez.com/

Unpacked the files, placed the utilities from jayklm in path on my XP notebook.

The method I used for finding out the size of the PNY CF was outlined here:

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=905&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

my 32 meg PNY card returned: Capacity : 0000F800 or 63488 x 512 = 32,505,856 [does someone keep a list of these cards sizes?]

off to a cmd prompt
===========================================================
Windows XP cmd prompt
=======================
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>cd audrey

C:\audrey>cd updatewithshell

C:\audrey\UpdateWithShell>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 3366-1801

Directory of C:\audrey\UpdateWithShell

01/08/2003 11:53 AM <DIR> .
01/08/2003 11:53 AM <DIR> ..
07/22/2022 12:00 AM 16,515,072 UpdateWithShell.cf
10/22/2001 11:10 PM 670 readme.txt
10/31/2001 11:29 AM 54 UpdateWithShell.md5
3 File(s) 16,515,796 bytes
2 Dir(s) 18,694,635,520 bytes free

C:\audrey\UpdateWithShell>md5sum -c UpdateWithShell.md5
UpdateWithShell.cf: OK


C:\audrey\UpdateWithShell>mkcf UpdateWithShell.cf audrey.flash 32505856 Read file of size 16515072. File checksum is 7b1eb7aa. Creating output file 'audrey.flash' of size 32505856...done!
================================================================

Next determine what Physical device your CF card reader is attached to. This was outlined by KJ_Jazz here:

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=1046&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

Remember to swap the \ for / when using the Cygwin dd utility.

Now I switched to a Cygwin bash prompt to run dd
==================================================================
switch to Cygwin32 window
===========================
bash-2.01$ pwd
/audrey/updatewithshell
bash-2.01$ ls -l
total 23938
-r--r--r-- 1 0 everyone 16515072 Jul 22 2022 UpdateWithShell.cf
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 everyone 54 Oct 31 2001 UpdateWithShell.md5
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 everyone 32505856 Jan 9 11:40 audrey.flash
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 everyone 670 Oct 22 2001 readme.txt

bash-2.01$ dd if=audrey.flash of=//./PhysicalDrive2
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
bash-2.01$

===================================================================
Back to XP cmd prompt window
=============================

C:\audrey\UpdateWithShell>ntrw read return f:
NTRW v2.00
Removeable media
Cylinders: 0:3
TracksPerCylinder: 255
SectorsPerTrack: 63
BytesPerSector: 512
bufsize is 65536
32423936 bytes written1 bytes: 0
==================================================================

Well this is what I tried a bunch of times with ntrw in place of dd and it never worked, see that the bytes written 32423936 is not the 32505856 that we asked for originally.

So here is what I think fixed it but I'm still not positive.

I now ran HexWorkshop on the file following Pep42's post in the same link as above:

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=1046&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

Whatever magic that HexWorkshop does it is what I think fixed it. After that the CF card worked fine, I tried loading twice before flashing it and all went very well.

off to find other things to do with audrey!

Thanks to all here and elsewhere who have given help, I hope this post helps someone else get their audrey updated.

01-10-2003 08:18:52

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) bob123
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One of my Audreys had rev 1.01.23.00 RC15 12/7/2000 and updated itself via the network and spoof 6.17.16.112 at work. No problem; the other Audrey had rev 1.00.17.01 R8 9/26/2000 and never wanted to update. Go figure! maybe somebody can tell me.
01-10-2003 21:22:13

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Mine was 1.00.12.05 RC1 8/24/2000

the loader [I think] that you see when flashing is XL v 01.08, others had said theirs was .12, so again old versions.

So I think it was just a real early rev and it had questionable usb ethernet support.

working on getting Marius's picture frame working next.

Thanks Marius

all your base are belong to us!

01-11-2003 12:53:18

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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oops..

looks like I need updatewithshellplus not updatewithshell for the fs-cifs command.

I tired downloading from http://dilligaf.d2g.com/audrey/indexwhite.shtml 3 times
but every time on two different machines I get an md5sum error:

C:\audrey\updatewithshellplus>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 3366-1801

Directory of C:\audrey\updatewithshellplus

01/11/2003 05:22 PM <DIR> .
01/11/2003 05:22 PM <DIR> ..
07/30/2022 12:00 AM 16,515,072 UpdateWithShellPlus.cf
10/31/2001 01:01 AM 1,265 readme.txt
10/31/2001 12:52 AM 58 UpdateWithShellPlus.md5
3 File(s) 16,516,395 bytes
2 Dir(s) 15,716,679,680 bytes free

C:\audrey\updatewithshellplus>md5sum -c updatewithshellplus.md5
UpdateWithShellPlus.cf: FAILED
md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match


Is there somewhere else I can download this from? It does not appear to be in the download pages of audreyhacking.com

thanks

01-12-2003 08:49:39

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) dilligaf
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This should be fixed now.

Sorry about the inconvience ;)

dill

01-12-2003 23:41:17

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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everything is working great now thanks!
01-15-2003 19:53:21

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) dwwright
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I've been trying to update my Audrey to the 66.17.16.111 servers, but am not having any luck. I have setup a static ip and DNS using 66.17.16.111. With the web browser I have been able to go to http://marimba.3com.com, but am unable to reach the 3com.marimba.net url. Is it possible that my audrey is looking for the 3com.marimba.net address when updating? Also, at which revision can you start to use the TFS (three finger salute) to update audrey? I've been trying both ways but nothing seems to work.
Thanks...
01-17-2003 09:11:04

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) dwwright
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Ok,

I finally got my Audrey to update. I ended up having to spoof the spoof as my Audrey was looking for 3com.marimba.net to update from, which is not currently resolving to 66.17.16.111.

I determined that Audrey was looking for this host using Ethereal http://www.ethereal.com/ by watching for incoming DNS requests to my laptops nic card. I set the DNS entries on Audrey to the ip address of the NIC that I was watching on my laptop and attempted an update of Audrey. When the request came in for DNS the details showed that the Audrey was requesting a resolution for 3com.marimba.net.

To do the spoof I downloaded “Simple DNS Plus” (14 day trial) from Tucows for my Windows XP. I setup a new zone(s) for 3com.com and marimba.net in Simple DNS Plus and then setup new Host addresses (A-Record = 3com.marimba.net) for the update server names in those Zones pointing to 66.17.16.111. I then set the DNS entries in Audrey to point to my new local DNS server on my Laptop (192.168.2.4). To checked the new DNS resolution in Audrey I pointing the web browser to http://3com.marimba.net and ta-da I resolved to the 66.17.16.111 server address.

Now on to the real test… I ran the update process as listed on http://www.shed.com/tutor/audrey/softupdate.html and everything worked perfectly.


Here are some print screens of what the zones and host address entries should look like…

http://home.kc.rr.com/libertysg/audrey/hostaddress.jpg
http://home.kc.rr.com/libertysg/audrey/zones.jpg
http://home.kc.rr.com/libertysg/audrey/sdpabout.jpg

Good Luck…

01-18-2003 01:03:07

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) kambiz40
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Hello,

I purchased two Audrey units from tiger direct about a year ago. I only used them few times using dialup connection. I recently got cable modem, and tried upgrading my Audrey’s using the information I gathered from hacking websites. It did not matter what DNS numbers I used, I could never upgrade them.

I was about to give up on upgrading the Audreys until I came across your article in this Bulletin board regarding using “Simple DNS Plus” to point the 3com.marimba.net website to DNS number 66.17.16.111.

Then I tried to capture the name of website or DNS number these Audrey’s accessing during the upgrades. I used the routers monitor log to check out the website the Audrey’s accessing. I noticed one of the Audrey’s was trying to access the same website as you described, it was trying to get the upgrades using the 3com.marimba.net website. I then followed the instruction you have described using “Simple DNS Plus” and, then I finally could upgrade one of the Audreys to the Final version. But I could not get the last upgrades with shell commands. I kept getting errors on the last one. Do you know what could be causing that?

Also, for some reason I could not upgrade the second Audrey, it does not respond to any DNS numbers. This Audrey is not looking for 3com.marimba.net during the time/date upgrades. Do I need to reset the Audrey before upgrading it? That’s what I initially did on the first Audrey which I have not done one this one.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Alan

01-22-2003 22:07:21

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) paulb
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Could someone spoof this 3com.marimba.net address please? I think my Audrey is trying to get its update from there, and I have no way of doing it myself. I'm also having a VERY hard time updating my Audrey via CF, so this is kinda my last hope.

Thanks,

Paul.

see below for the problems I'm having with the CF card method
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=3Com_Audrey&Post=1706&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

01-24-2003 13:37:04

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) kambiz40
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Update: I finally got the last update with shell on my first Audrey.

To get the first three updates plus the Final update I ended up following the instruction, which was described by, dwwright on this tread since one of my Audrey’s was looking for the 3com.marimba.net to get the updates. As it was described by dwwright, I downloaded the “Simple DNS Plus” software (30 days free trial) on my XP windows host. Then I set DNS # for 3com.marimba.net to 66.17.16.111 (Read his description, it’s very easy to follow). The steps, which he has described on this tread, would work only if your Audrey tries to get the updates from 3com.marimba.net.

After I got the Final updates, I had to change the DNS # on Audrey to 66.17.16.111 to get the last update, which is the one after Final update and gives you the shell access.

The Audrey was trying to get it’s last update (final+ shell) from marimba.3com.com not 3com.marimba.net. I believe the admin at 3com have pointed marimba.3com.com to 66.17.16.111.

Alan

01-24-2003 22:38:34

New MessageRE:update server (modified 0 times) dwwright
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Sorry, Have been busy working on a project setting up MisterHouse (from misterhouse.net) and haven't got out to check posts. I think I also saw what you found, that Audrey was trying to get it’s last update (final+ shell) from marimba.3com.com not 3com.marimba.net. When I setup the Simple DNS I had both names pointing to the 66.17.16.111 as the DNS settings were only looking at the Simple DNS software. Hopefully they will add the 3Com.marimba.net to the spoof soon.

I finally got callerid on my Audrey, but I had to use the Misterhouse as the CID server since my Audrey modem wasn't doing the job. It works pretty well and it also will send out to Tivo and Callerid Sentry so all of my computer pop up a CID screen.

Darren

01-31-2003 15:59:27

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