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New Messagepower over ethernet (modified 0 times) edraven
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Has anyone done power over ethernet to their audrey before? I'm a bit wary to hack off the end of the audrey power plug, I'm hoping there are only 2 wires inside, despite the complexity of the plug. Will the audrey still power up using the default power supply over say a 20' distance? or should I use the 5V/12V power in the computer nearby to power it...
03-14-2003 10:12:37

New MessageRE:power over ethernet (modified 0 times) pedxing
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I haven't done this (or thought of it) but the pinouts for the plug are known. Check out this last bit from the FAQ:
http://www.3rdmoon.com/crusso/audrey/#What%20are%20the%20power%20supply%20pinouts%20for%20Audrey

Apparently it uses the same 8-pin DIN plug from Apple printers, so it shouldn't be too hard to find a plug. You'd have to hack on the Ethernet side, too, to extract that power. And you'd have to have a power-over-ethernet infrastructure to connect to...

I think I'll just use the brick!

Ped Xing

03-14-2003 10:35:53

New MessageRE:power over ethernet (modified 0 times) edraven
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geez, 2 different voltages? this could get messy... does ethernet even have that many unused wires?
03-15-2003 01:25:47

New MessageRE:power over ethernet (modified 0 times) hw_irq
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A standard Cat5 cable has 8 wires. Four are used for Ethernet (pin 1,2,3,6). You can use the remaining four to deliver power. The only issue you may run into is that if the wire is too long the voltage drop on the wire may cause problems. Also a longer wire will pick up more electro magnetic interference and cause crosstalk to your Ethernet twisted pairs.

Here is a good link that shows wiring for Cat5:

http://www.bluemax.net/techtips/networking/Wiring_Tips/Wiring100TX/colorcodestandards.htm

I normally use T568b color coding standard....

hw_irq

03-15-2003 09:16:48

New MessageRE:power over ethernet (modified 0 times) jwilson56
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I have a few of those 8 pin power extention cables for sale.


http://justonemore.us/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=hs_sale

03-18-2003 05:29:17

New MessageRE:power over ethernet (modified 0 times) Joker
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This is a very interesting thought.

I would like to drag the Audrey around the living room and use it wherever I sit.

The wireless ethernet gadgets are kind of useless for Audrey if you still need a wire.

Yes a single ethernet connection does not use all the conductors in the cable. The only
caveate as mentioned is voltage drops across the cable. By using a higher voltage supply
and installing regulators local to Audrey, the intended effect can be acheived.

I believe that the LM2825 DC-DC converters with fixed output voltages of 3.3V and 5V would
provide the desired effect. These units require a DC supply of less than 40V. The supply
delivered over the ethernet cable should be as close to this as possible. Most power over
ethernet applications use 48V. Unfortunately, a 48VDC supply will not work for these converters
and is difficult to find in a convenient wall wart package. A 24VDC supply can be found
in a wall-wart package.

The LM2825s are nice and small and simple.

The only issue left is determining if the current requirements on these supplies is low enough
to utilize these 1A parts.

07-04-2003 09:52:50

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