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Audrey runs the "real" voyager - very cool! (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile This should come as good news to those of you frustrated with Audrey's rather limited built-in browser. QNX6.1 comes with a nice, full-featured browser called "voyager" which I was able to get running this morning. I got this working just as I was headed out to work, and didn't have much time at all to play with it, but the results so far are so good I may never run Audrey's built-in browser again. Something else to note - I haven't tried this on Audrey yet, but on my QNX 6.1 box I have voyager configured to use the J9 Java plugin, which successfully runs the AOL Quickbuddy messenger. I think the chances are good for getting this to run on Audrey, so there may finally be a way to get a version of AIM running. OK, I'm doing this from memory, so I apologize in advance if I miss something important. First, I have most of the QNX 6.1 filesystem on a Windows share mounted at /mnt/QNX6.1, and I aready have quite a few hacks applied, so some of this might depend on other stuff on my Audrey. If this doesn't work for you, we can probably sort out which other prerequisites are needed. First, set up some paths: ls -s /mnt/QNX6.1/usr/voyager /usr/voyager ls -s /mnt/QNX6.1/usr/local /usr/local ls -s /mnt/QNX6.1/x86 /x86 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/voyager/lib:/x86/lib:/usr/local/lib:/x86/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH Now you'll want to kill any Browser you might be already running and start voyager: slay Browser /usr/voyager/bin/voyager -A -c -P /usr/voyager/bin/vserver I'm not sure if all the options are needed or not, but those worked for me (try running "use voyager" under QNX 6.1 to see what other options are available). After a longish wait (remember this is running across the network) you should get the voyager splash screen followed by voyager! About the only thing I had time to play with was going into "Preferences" and turning on automatic image loading. I did log in to Yahoo mail and check my email, and everything seemed to work fine. The gui looked fine and the speed was fine once it got started. One more thing worth noting, there will be a configuration directory created in /nto/voyager/.ph/voyager (I think) that contains the file config.full (I think that's the name). There is a line in there for configuring a cache directory - you will probably want to change this to point to a network drive to keep the cache from filling up Audrey's precious little space. Have fun! 10-11-2001 05:16:37

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) stepper Profile | Email This also works with the QNX 6.0 version of voyager. It's nice to have a full browser! The only required command line option is the -P,like this: voyager -P voyager.server There are no extra libs required, so you can just stick the binary on your Audrey. Don't forget to slay Browser first though! 10-11-2001 13:00:24

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) neopod Profile | Email Stepper, could you post the binary for voyager from QNX 6.0? or email it to me at hung###@hotmail.com also since this is a full feature broswer, does it support mp3 with some mime configuration. and use the phplay? it's so excited and good job for doing it. neopod 10-11-2001 13:51:13

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) neopod Profile | Email my email is not a swear word its h u n g f u k @ hotmail.com 10-11-2001 13:52:26

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) stepper Profile | Email I haven't tried configuring it to play mp3s yet, but it should be possible. Too many other things to do with Audrey! 10-11-2001 14:33:34

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile Just wanted to note that the paths in my original post were wrong. Everywhere I said "/usr/voyager" should have been "/usr/photon". 10-11-2001 18:39:14

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) neopod Profile | Email No image is being displayed when i tried running voyager on my Audrey i only copy the voyager from a QNX 6.0 System and the voyager is working fine in the QNX 6.0 system. any fix or configuration file change? everything is fine except that the broswer doesnt' display any images but text and tables are fine neopod 10-11-2001 21:58:41

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) neopod Profile | Email Problem solved.. sorry about to hurry posting problem... the image will appear after changing the conifiguration file in the /nto/photon/.ph/voyager/ for the AutoLoadImage = FALSE change to true is there any way to change make the default browser the voyager -P voyager.server when pressing the browser button? neopod 10-11-2001 22:05:32

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) neopod Profile | Email SO HAPPY to post that i can play mp3 now by using this browser, of course u need to have phplay and the library in your audrey. it's really streaming no click, at least the songs that are available in mp3.com Maybe people wont like to waste extra space for another broswer in their audrey. so solutions. 1) just totally adopt to the new browser, and replace it totally. 2) figure out how to configure the Browser from the configuration file in .ph/voyager like MIME types ..... will look into that when the sun comes up tmr.. neopod 10-11-2001 22:14:04

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) dslrules Profile can you post the voyager bin somewhere?? or email me at tomtnt at pac bell dot net 10-12-2001 02:04:00

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile Well all is not completely rosey in voyager land, I have noticed some problems with screen refreshes when moving the scrollbars, however clicking above or below the scrollbar handle to move a page at a time works without a problem. I was also getting some "out of memory" messages, but those seem to have stopped occurring when I turned on disk caching and moved the cache file to a network drive. Does the 6.0 binary have these problems? If not, I'll definately give it a try. BTW, there is no need to edit a text file to turn on images, just go to "edit -> preferences" and change it there. I also needed to change colors to make links more visible, etc., but that works fine. Nearly all configuration, including helper apps, can be done under "preferences". Be careful when hand-editing stuff that is usually handled by the GUI, you can cause the GUI to stop working. Also, I have configured the Java plugin just like it was on my QNX 6.1 box, but it doesn't seem to work. I get no errors or anything, just Java applets don't load at all. If anyone gets this going please share. 10-12-2001 04:39:30

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile Any chance someone could post a link to the QNX 6.0 version of the Voyager binary? 10-12-2001 06:24:59

Voyager binary (modified 1 times) stepper Profile | Email I posted voyager for QNX 6.0 here: http://www.bumblemonkey.com/Audrey/voyager IT IS COMPRESSED! So you MUST put it in /.cmp/nto/photon/bin for it to work. And don't forget to do: chmod a+x /nto/photon/bin/voyager Then do: slay Browser voyager -P voyager.server The first thing you should do is go to the preferences and change the settings. In particular, you need to turn on auto-loading of images. There are some other command line options to hide the status bar, menu bar etc. so you get more space for web pages. Enjoy! 10-12-2001 21:12:27

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 1 times) Krebs Profile double posted - sorry 10-13-2001 03:28:02

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) Krebs Profile stepper - thanks for the binary I'm not sure if I did everything correctly but I'm using voyager right now. I used my Win98SE laptop to download it. It was "voyager.txt" so I renamed it to just "voyager" before ftping to Audrey. I put it in "/.cmp/nto/photon/bin" like you said. I couldn't get the "chmod a+x /nto/photon/bin/voyager" to work so I just did "chmod +x voyager" Is this going to cause a problem with it? It sure is nice having multiple windows again! 10-13-2001 03:28:07

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile I also copied voyager.txt. I renamed it voyager and put it in /nto/photon/bin . When I run it with voyager -P voyager.server, I get the following messages /nto/photon/bin/voyager: []D: not found /nto/photon/bin/voyager: syntax error: '(' unexpected Is anyone else getting this? 10-13-2001 04:45:18

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile jonnylbluejeans, sounds like you might have used ftp to transfer the file to your Audrey and forgot to use binary mode. Be sure to type "bin" before issuing the "get" command. Or better yet, if you have a mounted directory, just download it there and use cp to move it to Audrey. On another note, I'm now using the 6.0 binary and getting better results than the 6.1 binary. The screen now scrolls smoothly. It would be interesting to know what the problem with the 6.1 binary is, but I'm happy with the 6.0 version and will stick with it for now. Startup is of course much faster with the binary on Audrey. 10-13-2001 05:11:08

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile That's what I thought too. I just clicked the link a few posts above from my XP machine and saved it to my share. I then copied it over to my Audrey. Would someone mind emailing me the 6.0 binary? john(at)lepone(dot)com 10-13-2001 05:21:34

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile Also noticed you said you put it in /nto/photon/bin. The file is compressed, so be sure to put it in /.cmp/nto/photon/bin (you will still run it from /nto/photon/bin - there is an earlier thread here about how the /.cmp directory works). 10-13-2001 05:42:36

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) guyallen Profile | Email Thanks everyone, finally a decent browser, and I can listen to streaming audio at mp3.com. Can someone help me listen to the audio from shoutcast.com? I can get phplay to come up but then it says it is an unrecognized format. Thanks again! -guy 10-13-2001 05:47:49

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) SpaceGhost Profile ok, got voyager to work and then tried to change the cache directory to my mount for my mp3's ( i really don't care if the mp3's and cache stuff is all mixed together). I can't remember exactly how i mounted the network drive but it is called "mp3" on my audrey and "audreyshare" on my pc. What do i need to add in the cache location under voyager's preferences? What was the original path for voyager's caching on audrey? I put in /mp3 ... now i can't use voyager after it loads it says a file is missing (can't use the cache file i've assigned, is suppose). like the looks of the new browser, though.... now to get it going again. 10-13-2001 06:37:10

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) SpaceGhost Profile ok, using "/mp3" works fine.... i had started voyager after adjusting the cache path, but use a lower case "p" instead of a capital "P" in the command line. so...Word of caution for fellow unix/qnx newbies, watch your grammar. Any chance of getting this to come up using the browser button? I suppose we could add an icon in the Options... button would be nice and quick though. 10-13-2001 06:45:10

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile SpaceGhost, you have to give it a directory AND a filename. Try /mp3/vcache. I THINK the default location was /nto/photon/.ph/voyager/vcache. I'm using a network drive cache without problems (so far). 10-13-2001 06:45:21

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) guyallen Profile | Email Hello, Can someone help me with a script to launch voyager from the System Panel? I wrote a script but it doesn't work from the System Panel. Or better yet, how do you add this to the system panel and make it kill the other browsers and start itself up? -Guy 10-13-2001 07:19:32

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile jhd3rd shoots.... he scores!!! You're right... I didn't put it in /.cmp/nto/photon/bin/ It works like a charm... thanks. 10-13-2001 08:41:52

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile SpaceGhost... I got Voyager to come up by pressing the Browser button. I replaced the Browser binary with the Voyager Binary. However, it has a problem starting the voyager server. What exactly does the -P parameter do? What is the significance of voyager.server ? 10-13-2001 11:03:52

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) pkarp Profile Hello, Any suggestions on the cache sizes on the Preferences dialog 10-13-2001 12:13:16

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) Scozza Profile | Email I may be way off the mark but I have found a package on tucows called PhHotKey which supposedly lets you create your own personal macros. I'm wondering if such a macro would work for launching voyager with the required options! Has anyone tried PhHotKey on Audrey? Cheers, Scozza. 10-14-2001 03:50:48

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) Tracer Profile I am looking for the command "find", well actually I am looking for where Browser is located. Anybody? 10-14-2001 07:02:40

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jhd3rd Profile I find it interesting that jonnylbluejeans got voyager to come up by replacing the Browser binary. I have tried something similar by moving the Browser executabe to Browser.old, and then creating an executable script called Browser that starts voyager, but this didn't work. Perhaps the buttons will only launch a binary executable and not a script? If so, it should be a simple matter to compile a very simple C program that just makes a system call to voyager with the correct command line options. That way there would be binary executable to make the button happy. I'll give this a shot when I have the time. 10-14-2001 09:19:34

RE:Audrey runs the "real" voyager (modified 0 times) SteveZed Profile One thing to remember is that once you slay Browser, the channel knob no longer functions since it uses the browser engine. Also, the QNX 6.0 version of voyager takes up more RAM to run than does the Audrey version (over 7 meg vs. 5 meg). Concerning starting voyager from a button, my theory is that it is being done via interprocess communication with an intermediate program. If you press the browser button while the browser is running, it comes to the top window. If its not running, then it is started, probably by the intermediate program; I think someone already figured out which program restarts the builtin components when then fail (watchdog?) I can't imagine that this program has a hardcoded manifest of standard running Audrey programs; there must be a flat file of them someplace. Maybe this is the place to alter the startup parameters of Browser to have the intermediate program start voyager properly. Zed 10-14-2001 10:06:35

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) davec Profile I think the intermediate program you are thinking of is "rm" a.k.a. Resource Manager, which is has a configuration file in (I think) /kojak/rm-apps or /config/rm-apps. Interesting idea. I'll have to play around with rm to see if it can switch to the Voyager with command line parameters. Dave 10-14-2001 10:42:51

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) drg012 Profile I think davec is on the right track.../config/rm-apps has the following in it: b,/kojak/Browser,-w 640 -h 480 -P voyager.server -k the -w and -h are obvious, -P is maybe the process name? since voyager.server shows up in a ps command all the time (and may be what's serving all the images etc for the channel selector. and what's -k? I would think that if you replace /kojak/Browser with voyager (and keep the name /kojak/Browser) than the channel selector stuff should still work and the push button thing should still work. BTW, I was thinking that buttond was the process that dealt with recognizing the buttons, and then used the KOJAK IPC to indicate what was happening... Dave 10-14-2001 11:56:34

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) chewdawg Profile ok, I've got voyager launching from the hardware browser button on the audrey. The key is to start up the voyager.server on boot and make it reload when a voyager window is killed (you should be able to do this with voyager.server -x, but that's not cooperating on my audrey). To get this running you need to do these modifications. 1) install voyager (read stepper's post on this) 2) mv /kojak/Browser /kojak/Browser.moved ln -s /nto/photon/bin/voyager /kojak/Browser 3)edit /config/rm-apps as follows: comment out the first Browser line: #b,/kojak/Browser, -w 640 -h 480 -P voyager.server -k add these lines after the line just commented out: rb,/kojak/voyager.server, -x b,/kojak/Browser, this should launch a working voyager client on boot and enable you to launch another after the original has been closed. if anyone can figure out how to get the voyager.server -x command to work properly please let me know 10-14-2001 12:37:28

But I have no sound... (modified 0 times) palatialestate Profile I have gotten the voyager browser up and running but can't play any audio/video. I gather from the posts that I need phplay (I appear to be the only one not using the Audrey to remotely play MP3s.) Can anyone tell me what additional files in addition to voyager I need to make the browser fully functional. And where to put them, (constructive locations only please:)..... 10-14-2001 17:58:23

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile Here's the problem chewdog... I read the doc on Voyager, and if you don't specify "-P [location]/voyager.server" it will default to: /[SYSTEM NAME]/voyager/[PROCESSOR]/bin/voyager.server so in our case /nto/voyager/x86/bin/voyager.server First off, by default, there isn't a bin directory under x86... only plugins. I created one and moved the voyager.server out there.... no luck. I think your idea combined with jhd3rd's concerning a C program will do the trick. 10-15-2001 05:42:00

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) Tracer Profile I have voyager up and running using chewdawg's instructions but I have run into a small problem. It works and I really like Voyager much better but it hangs and just stops quite frequently. It works for a little and then if you go to a web site that has lots of graphics, it just freezes and you have to shut the voyager window and push the browser button again to start a new instance of voyager. I have tried this on 2 Audreys with the same results. Is there any special cache size or any other setup that should be made? I cannot use a separate computer for the cache so is this the problem? Any ideas are appreciated. Oh, thanks all for figuring out Voyager, it really is much nicer than the built in browser if I could get it to be a bit more reliable. Mark 10-15-2001 07:11:35

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) stephen18 Profile i cant get gnx6 to install on my iwn2k box with kt7a raid, anyway could someone post the "voyager icon" the ship so i can put it on my "desktop" or convert it for shell? thanks 10-17-2001 07:42:44

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) trashcan Profile Thanks for the hack Voyager is a much better browser than the orig. But I can't get it to work with "REAL" audio files? any ideas? The old browser works great for REAL audio files. 10-21-2001 19:54:59

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) D. Wood Profile Scroll to the bottom of my site, after I reflash my audrey i'll play with execv for voyager to work(should be around Wednesday, but dont expect it between 7pm and 8pm central, I'll be watching Enterprise :) http://www.geocities.com/dev_temp_pics 10-21-2001 21:41:12

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile About Realaudio in the voyager. It works for me like this: First I read a post on the Linux Hacker BBS about a little hack that did not get much attention.I don't remember who posted it. By changing the 0 in a 1 in the /config/BROWSER_BackgroundAudio file the realplayer becomes a kind of independent from the Browser. If you slay the Browser realaudio continues to play the same connection. Second I adjusted the realaudio settings in the voyager. The first 2 application in preferences are related to real audio. I changed them as follows to have the realplayer play with voyager that same way. /kojak/kojak-realplayer -P voyager.server "%s" You have to restart voyager to have these changes take effect. Now you have realaudio in voyager too and "detachable" from it. I started a new thread how to set up presets for realaudio channels. Very easy to do. Start realaudio from your menu as a stand alone application. 11-14-2001 00:37:10

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jonnylbluejeans Profile jukebox - I followed your instructions, but it won't run in Voyeger (it downloads the RM file). However it does work in command line mode. Any thoughts? 11-14-2001 05:19:29

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile I checked and it does work for me with voyager. However I noticed now when you go from one station to another, after a while you have realplayer running a couple of times and then it stops working. When I slay 2 or 3 realplayers running or I do a shutdown it works again for the first 1 or 2 stations with voyager. Sorry I didn't notice this before and I don't know what to do about this problem of more realplayers running after a while. I wonder if this can happen with the Browser also. I have setup 7 stations with scripts in the pop-up menu of wm that I listen to on a regular basis. Goes a lot faster than through the websites anyway. Maybe that is a nice workaround for this problem. 11-14-2001 15:31:40

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) ABJim Profile | Email I am thinking of updating to the full voyager. How stable is it.? Is there a problrem with realaudio? What else does it do better? 11-14-2001 15:47:01

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile This could solve the realaudio problem. I said earlier: By changing the 0 in a 1 in the /config/BROWSER_BackgroundAudio file the realplayer becomes a kind of independent from the Browser/voyager. If you slay the Browser/voyager realaudio continues to play the same connection. Try again with a 0 in the BROWSER_BachgroundAudio file. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to change the 0 in a 1 afterall and make realaudio "detachable". Hope this helps. 11-14-2001 15:48:01

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) jukebox Profile OK that solved the problem for me with realaudio in voyager. Keep the 0 in BROWSER_BachgroundAudio and only 1 instance of realaudio will run with voyager. I can listen now to as many stations as I want in a row. Sorry for the confusion. Jukebox 11-14-2001 16:21:02

RE:Audrey runs the (modified 0 times) phildig Profile | Email I got voyager to work fine, but now Im having problems recording an email because Memory is too low. What files or directories do you delete to remove voyager? I noticed voyager.server is a huge file. Or what other ways can I free up memory without killing my Audrey? 03-02-2002 16:10:37

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