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Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Homercleese I am thinking about buying an epod for my wife. We have cable modem and she would like to surf the net and instant message people from another room. How slow will it be. I am willing to put $400 into a descent gateway and pc card (orinoco). Need some advice. 03-16-2001 20:44:50

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Pete To make it worth while it would be of benefit to also use terminal services. I did hear recently that moving as much of the applications to your added memory and maybe updating your IE might speed up browsing some though....I have not tried that yet...as I am very happy with TS. 03-16-2001 20:49:54

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Homercleese Can you tell me what i need in hardware and software to set up Terminal Services 03-16-2001 22:48:33

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) ouzome Windows recommends a 133 CPU with 256 Megs of Ram, plus you will need Windows 2000 Advanced Server OS 03-16-2001 23:06:22

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Homercleese So what i need is : 1 133mhz Pentium or higher with 256mb of ram wireless pc card for it. 2. wireless pcmcia card for epod. 3. wireless gateway. 4. TS software 03-16-2001 23:12:34

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Steve Terminal Services is available under either of the Win2000 servers - both server and advanced server. 03-16-2001 23:16:31

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) eggplant Close. You need a PC with a broadband connection. It can be wired. Said PC has to run Windows 2000 Server (or NT4 Server). Terminal Services is an optional component included with those. You need a wireless card for the ePods. You need a wireless card for the PC. You do not need an Access Point / Wireless Gateway. The PC will take care of that for you. Terminal Services is a service that allows you to have a logged-in session at your PC, while displaying the virtual screen on a remote device. All the processing occurs at the PC. The ePods simply forwards keystroke and mouse events to the TS PC, and the TS PC forwards screen updates to the ePods. Unfortunately, TS doesn't support sound (so no sound on the ePods), but you can use Citrix MetaFrame instead of TS (it is a souped-up version of TS), although that is a separate cost. I'm doing what you are asking about on my home network. I'm running Win2k server on a 200 MHz Celeron with 64MB of RAM. Not the fastest thing in the world, but it works. The wireless cards (I'm using the Wavelan/ORiNOCO Silver cards) run in peer-to-peer (ad-hoc) mode, so they don't require a gateway. Essentially you are using the wireless network solely to support your TS traffic. In reality, you are actually surfing from the PC itself. This means you can surf and use whatever apps you like that run under win2k. And this is also why it runs so much faster than browsing directly from the ePods. Hope this helps! 03-16-2001 23:21:03

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Homercleese But i would need an access point if the computer that is running the cable modem is Windows ME. Because i will need another computer to run win2k? 03-16-2001 23:27:02

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Pete You would not need an access point if the PC is running ME. You can use MS Internet Sharing which is part of ME. I use an access point so that I can have a number of devices roaming around the house. The house is wired for Cat-5 though.. 03-17-2001 00:02:42

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) eggplant You can use the WinME machine as a gateway for a wireless pod by adding wireless cards to the pod and the ME machine. BUT... You will not be able to run Terminal Server on the WinME machine. For this, the server must be either NT4 or Win2k *SERVER* (not Pro). So you can do it through your WinME machine, but you won't get better performance than you have now, since the HTML will still be rendered on the pod (which is why it is so slow). You could upgrade your WinME machine to Win2k, and then you'd be golden. Without Terminal Services, you'll be forced to run your IM client on the pod itself. I don't think that all the IM systems have WinCE clients. Besides, it is REALLY COOL having a completely portable win2k machine! Oh, one last thing, and this is a subtle point -- TS does come with Win2k, but unless you pay for additional TS licenses, you are forced to run it in "admin mode". This really doesn't hurt anything, but it forces your log-in session to run as an administrator. This means that whoever is on the pod can do *anything* on the server, which could be good or bad, depending on your perspective. 03-17-2001 02:02:23

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) SnappleBoy eggplant: I read in another thread that the MSDN ver of w2k server allows a 5 user app mode with no expiration (sorry don't have the thread handy). Do you know if that is true? Anyone try this? 03-17-2001 07:40:51

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) bsobel Profile Another note, Windows XP (Whistler) includes the TE stuff built in to even Professional (not sure about Personal). And it supports higher colors (W2K is max 256 colors). So, Whistler should be a reasonable platform to run these from. Bill 03-17-2001 10:46:38

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Steve Sorry to sell in this forum, but... I have a 2.04 hacked ePod with the hard wired DOC bypass, 2 Proxim Symphony PC Cards (4402-05) and one HRF compliant Symphony USB adapter, and Windows 2000 Advanced Server for sale. Willing to look at offers for any and all. Please e-mail at steveparis@hotmail.com if interested. Thanks. 03-17-2001 10:59:23

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Bart B I don't find it slow at all. In fact, on most web sites it's quicker than my Pentium 233 with my 33.6 dialup modem. Sounds like you guys must be used to must faster machines with DSL or cable modem ISPs. If that's the case, then, yeah, I suppose you could use the words "excrutiatingly slow," I guess. I use the ePods to quickly scan the news in bed in the morning (my wife is definitely not a morning person, lol), and it works great. 03-17-2001 11:17:48

RE:Is it worth making Epod wireless to suf the net or too slow? (modified 0 times) Pete Bart, I have DSL. When I am using the wireless utilizing TS its pretty quick but when I switch to browsing directly with the Epods its pretty slow. I am using browser that is standard and have not updated it yet. I have heard that moving all your apps to the memory card and updating to the newer browser gives faster connectivity. I have not tried that yet though....I still still a problem with the WAVLAN CE drivers in that when moving a lot of data (connected directly or using TS) the card still goes into the flaming icon mode...changed and have tried all of the options available to tweak out the WANLAN configuration and it still acts up...wondering also if its because its a 5V card vs maybe using a 3V card (wireless).....might purchase another card (some other companies which is 3 V to see if there is a difference... 03-17-2001 11:26:20

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