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Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod

New MessageCheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) BinkyTClown
What is the Cheapest Currently Known To Work method of doing an 802.11b network (card + access point)? I did a brief survey on Ebay and they all seem to be ~ $600 for the two items, which makes me *gulp*.

Another dumb question I have: would I need a router on top of all of this for it to work properly? I use a dynamic IP DSL with "dial-up" software.

Thanks!

03-30-2001 22:51:54

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) eggplant
If you alrady have a PC connected to your DSL line, you can use it as a gateway for your pod. Just get two wireless cards and run them in peer-to-peer mode. If your PC is running NT Server, Win2k Server, or WinXP, you can also use Terminal Services to make your pod appear as a remote desktop of your PC. This runs much faster than browsing natively from your pod.

You cna check out the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InternetApplianceFleamarket site. Someone there is selling 2mb wavelan cards. Check to make sure that they support the CE drivers, though. They were only asking $30 or so per card.

Is that cheap enough for you?

03-30-2001 23:28:28

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) BinkyTClown
Yes, $30 a card seems quite reasonable. :)

I'm not quite sure I understand the peer-to-peer/software setup though...

03-31-2001 00:34:03

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) Pete
I have used Bronze (2 Meg), silver (11) and Gold (11) and they all work well with Epods..
03-31-2001 00:36:48

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) Orjan
Remember, that 2mbit wireless cards are NOT 802.11b compliant. Most 2mbit solutions are proprietary.
The peer-to-peer setup is quite simple. Let's take my Cisco Aironet cards as an example. When you install the card utillities, you get a configure screen where you can tell the card to run in ad-hoc mode (or infrastructure - which is default - with an access point).
Set this up, give the two cards a common "workgroup", also known as an SSID and you've got a peer-to-peer solution.
Depending on your card, you may have to set up encryption as well.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Ørjan Sandland

03-31-2001 01:34:02

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) dattguy
2mbps cards can be proprietary, but they also could be using the HomeRF standard (like the new Proxim cards).

Just because the 11mbps cards are 802.11b does not mean they are guaranteed to work with other 802.11b hardware. Wi-Fi (http://www.wi-fi.org) would be a good place to check compliance.

03-31-2001 05:11:26

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) dattguy
2mbps cards can be proprietary, but they also could be using the HomeRF standard (like the new Proxim cards).

Just because the 11mbps cards are 802.11b does not mean they are guaranteed to work with other 802.11b hardware. Wi-Fi (http://www.wi-fi.org) would be a good place to check compliance.

03-31-2001 05:11:27

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) vagitizer
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Just to let you know...
I'm using a D-Link set up. a 650 with a 1000 access point. The access point is now 193.00 from comready.com and the 650 is running 94.00. I've had great service from them, and the price is reasonable, plus free shipping. The 650 will need the prism driver, see randy's site.
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03-31-2001 08:58:48

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) Pete
Although the Orinoco (WAVELAN) bronze card is
2 Mps at 802.11 instead of 802.11B works fine with the WAVELAN Bridge and I have been able to upgrade the hardware bios on the card with no problems. It also works with the same drivers that I use for the Silver and Gold cards. I would say that makes it pretty compatible.
03-31-2001 09:46:39

New MessageRE:Cheapest way to wirelessly network an Epod (modified 0 times) eggplant
The wavelan 2mb cards are 802.11 compliant. They don't encrypt, but it was recently announced that wireless encryption is actually pretty easy to crack, so I don't see it as a great loss. Also, if you are using them with Terminal Services, 2mb will probably be enough -- with TS, you are only using the pod as a dumb terminal to your PC. The actual net (surfing) traffic never gets to the pod, just screen shots.

As for peer-to-peer (also called ad-hoc mode), this is when wireless cards talk directly to each other, as opposed to talking to an access point. It is sort of like CB radio -- you get all the cards to talk on the same channel, and then everyone hears everyone's packets, just as if they were on a wired section of ethernet. The configuration is independent of your TCP/IP settings -- it is simply another way for the cards to talk to each other. I have five machines in my house (one win95 box, 1 win98, 2 win2k server, and the epod) and they all talk to each other via peer-to-peer without a problem. I have one of the w2k boxes set up as a DHCP server, so all the other machines get their IP addresses from it, and use it as the gateway to the soon-to-be-installed satellite IP service. The gateway server is also the TS host, so the pod appears to be a remote desktop of that machine. This makes setting up wireless even easier, since it is the "server". I simply carry the epod to the machine I'm trying to configure and it's like having the server machine right there.

And to answer the interoperability question -- if all your wireless gear is from one vendor (or better yet is all identical), then you really don't need to worry about this. You can make different cards talk to each other, but why bother?

03-31-2001 17:23:38

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