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New MessageYES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
I just tried pharos GPS on epod. THe pharos GPS comes with PPC version and HPC2 version. HPC2 works. Install the program with activesync, and plug in the GPS, that's it.

The map has to be put on CF cards, reading maps out of CF cards is pretty slow though.

01-11-2001 05:53:41

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) sphiend
Did I understand that this program generates its maps real-time. i.e. - you don't have to map your route first and then sync them over to the epod?? In other words, you put the city you want on your CF and it shows you where you are at any given time. Many of the palm GPS systems that I looked at about a year ago were set up where you had to plot your route using something like mapsonus.com or mapquest and save the images. You then tranferred your images to the pda and the software simply placed a dot over the image at the point where you were. A situation like this is great if you always know where you will be going and have access to a desktop and/or internet connection. But my uses for a GPS required that maps and current locations, routes, directions, etc all be available on the fly. How useful have you found this program?

-sphiend

01-11-2001 06:25:20

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
pharosGPS has built-in routing.
You tell the program the destination, and origin(when GPS is connected, the program already knows the origin), then you click on "new route" it will create a route for you, and show that on the map. At intersections, where you need to turn, it will alert you with voice.

It's not perfect, I would like the interface be easier to use, and the voice alert can be more specific. There are systems that would tell you "turn right in 100 meters, in 50 meters, in 10 meters..etc".

having tried many GPS software for PocketPC, this is the best.
There is another one call pocketcopilot at www.pocketcopilot.com which looks promising, but I haven't tried.

01-11-2001 07:24:13

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) fpenguin
where can you get this pharos gps? and how much is the product?
01-11-2001 11:45:06

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
you can buy it from mobileplanet at www.mobileplanet.com
it will cost around $85 after shipping and tax.
Just return the thing within 30 days and get refund.
make copies of the CDs with CD burn.
01-11-2001 17:08:37

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Billings
As per MobilePlanet's posted return policy:

"Opened, shrink-wrapped software ... are not returnable."

01-11-2001 17:13:55

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) epodgps
cestar,

Is there any file required to make the Pharos to work?

After I installed the Pharos Ostia 2000 software on the epods, I got the message " Cannot fine 'Ostia' ( or one of it components)".

I also did a soft reset.
I still have the original epods files.
I installed the program on the flash card.

Thanks in advances.

01-15-2001 23:19:38

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
I had the same problem at first.
I get that same error message saying "missing one of its components" or something like that.

I think it's the wceload.exe unable to extract the .cab file correctly. I can't even use the window's extract.exe to extract the .cab file. However, ZIPMAGIC does work. winace, winrar don't work either.

In case you don't have zipmagic, I extracted the files you need, and uploaded them. It's in zip format. There is a readme.txt file there which will tell you where to put those files. http://au.geocities.com/starce002/HPC_PharosGPS.zip

by the way, if we had an "ACTION" button like the ones on PocketPC, then we can just push that button for One-Touch reRouting.

01-16-2001 00:47:08

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
cestar,

Thanks, however, I can't get the file from the link. I am appreciated if you can email the file to me at
mail://chan1194@earthlink.net or give me the new link.

Thanks again.

01-16-2001 08:11:05

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
THIS link should work

http://www.geocities.com/pozaero/HPC_PharosGPS.zip

01-16-2001 08:48:30

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) epodsgps
cdstar,

Thanks, it work now.

01-16-2001 09:09:29

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) serisman
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http://www.geocities.com/pozaero/HPC_PharosGPS.zip
01-16-2001 09:16:03

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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Well, once again my Epods refuses to see the Earthmate GPS unit attached to it. I tried every setting I could think of. Nada. This Epods has WinCE shell hack v1.0 in it. I started the Epods terminal program and it did see raw data coming from the Earthmate on COM1. Pod People, avoid the Earthmate.
01-16-2001 21:02:33

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) SiaK
Which GPS did you get? If you have the model number that would be great!
01-16-2001 21:52:15

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Calvin
Hey post the map for San Diego on your site! :)
01-16-2001 21:57:22

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
to test if you are receiving any signal from the GPS,
go to Pegterm, and setup an dial-up, with manual dial and terminal windows before dial boxes checked, also set baud rate to 4800, 8-N-1 and FLOW control:none.
plug in the GPS, you should be receiving something. Your GPS has to be NMEA 2.0 compatible.

I don't plan to upload any maps. They are at least 10MB each. Too much work for me, since my modem connection is never above 33kbps.

Buy it at mobileplanet, return it back to them if you want.

01-16-2001 23:34:52

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Siak
Wow! pocketcopilot is quite expensive! $399!!!! Can anyone else recommend another that is cheaper and would work with ePods?
01-16-2001 23:50:29

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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CEStar: As I said, my Earthmate can send raw data to the Epods, I just can't find any GPS software that will work with this combo' under WinCE. See here for more GPS/WinCE software: http://celia.mehaffey.com/david/wince.htm
01-17-2001 12:36:12

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) newcomer
Cestar, is your gps pc card or serial connection? I try to use my etak gps, and no signal either, thanks for the help........
01-17-2001 15:46:13

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Billings
Only the Etak PCMCIA version supports NMEA (standard GPS signal) [there is a switch to switch it from ETAK mode to NMEA mode) but if you are using the serial connection -- I can confirm it doesn't work because I have it as well and it doesn't support NMEA, only ETAK format.
01-17-2001 16:13:34

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) newcomer
I have the Pc card version, but none of the gps program I try can pull a signal from it, and I know it works in my laptop.....
01-17-2001 16:17:18

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Billings
Does it ask for a driver when you put it in, and is it switched to NMEA mode?
01-17-2001 17:15:57

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
I have the same problem as Kabong... working GPS but no software. I have a GPS made for use as a portable airplane unit (Lowrance Airmap 100) that outputs a variety of NMEA signals (I believe it outputs Garmin binary as well). Too bad pocketstreets doesn't have gps support like their full windows version (and too bad MS won't release the source to anything - this would be easy to hack in). Seeing how my GPS receiver approximately equals the weight and size (well, in volume) of my e-pods though, I don't see it getting to much use except possibly as some sort of backpack navigation type thing or as a car-mounted solution. Seeing how SA was turned off, it would actually make this usable as a city navigator type device... I think the accuracy is up to snuff now to make this a reality (especially if you take a few signals at once and average them together in software). Of course, walking around with a cool looking computer without looking around would make you a pretty easy target for muggings :)
01-17-2001 17:18:13

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) newcomer
Billings......

I change the setting many times, no driver was asked, epods shows it is a etak.inc device

01-17-2001 17:26:49

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
Wups... forgot to have any actual content in my post :)

Thanks for the PharosGPS zip (though I... uhh... question its legality)! It could be fun to replace those .wav files with more entertaining versions. For example: "Opposite Direction" -> "Turn Around! Jackass!" - I'd imagine most of my modifications would essentially boil down to adding "Jackass!" to the end of any voice command.

El Kabong: You might have covered this already, but does your Earthmate GPS output NMEA standard data? A quick search yielded this quotation from a GPS mapping software review: "That said, I came to find out that I could not use any other existing PalmPilot GPS / mapping software with the Earthmate because it is not an NMEA (National Marine Electronics Association) compliant device." Perhaps this may be your problem. Here is the address for the review by the way: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/earthmate-review.html - hope you can find ce software that supports earthmate data output.

Lastly, the pegterm settings suggested earlier in the thread may not work for all GPS recievers. I know mine can be set anywhere between 2400 and 112k baud (same as serial connections). I'd check your GPS manual before messing with pegterm.

01-17-2001 17:34:31

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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The Earthmate is supposed to work with Tele Type GPS. No joy. (It's not NMEA compliant but some weird binary.) I'm hoping TT GPS's going to work later on when we get those missing CE DLL files. Long shot to be sure.
01-17-2001 18:49:31

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
The one I have is Rand McNally GPS for LAPTOPS. It came with streetfinder for PC, but I don't use it. The GPS is supposed to be powered by the laptop's mouse port, I cut the wire and installed a batterypack with 4x1.5AA batteries along with a push-button switch.

A lot of places carry that GPS. As long as you have a unit that outputs NEMA 2.0 format to the serial port, it should work.

As for TeleType GPS, I tried it too. Their current version doesn't support REAL routing, and their maps are inaccurate. They are going to come out a new version sometime this year which will support routing and perhaps new maps. PocketCopilot only let you uses their GPS, it's just too expensive at $300. They probably don't support HPC PROs anyways.

01-18-2001 00:26:35

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
I just purchased the Rand McNally Streetfinder for Laptops GPS and haven't yet tried it out yet.

Cestar: you cut the wire to the ps2 port and replaced it with a battery pack ? is that easy or recommended to do ? is it possible to get a ps2 to usb adapter and use the usb's port for power ? also what software did you use if you didn't use Streetfinder that came with the product ?

01-31-2001 23:32:02

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
you can try to find a ps2 to USB converter, and try it out. I'd like to know if it works or not.

I used to use the GPS with my Pocket PC, the pocket pc has no USB port, so I had to cut the wire and hook it up with a battery pack. it's pretty simple to do,

02-01-2001 00:18:46

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) lowmazda
Rand McNally sells a power adapter for the unit. It can be found on their website. http://www.randmcnally.com under the GPS, Electronics and Software section. It runs for $13. Plus shipping. I just ordered one last night but it wont be here before the weekend. :( I was going to hook up a battery unit like cestar did but I just didnt want to toy with it right now. I did however connect the GPS unit to the epod and loaded up Pharos and it did recognize the unit and the satellites. I don't have any maps for Pharos so I cant tell you how it works. (Anyone have Pharos and willing to send me a map of the NY Metro area? :) ) If you come up w/ anything let us know. This GPS thread is a little thin on info sometimes.

lowmazda

02-01-2001 05:28:48

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) elowe
Just hooked up my Delorme Earthmate GPS receiver to my ePods the other day and it works with Solus Pro 1.5.

I plugged the GPS directly into the 9 pin serial port without any additional null modem cable or adapter and set the software up to look for the Earthmate. It took a few minutes to get a decent lock on my position, but it worked great!

It looks like Solus also also supports NMEA compliant GPS receivers as well as another proprietary GPS besides the Earthmate.

Looks like the software can only work with GPS units that connect through the serial port though.

02-01-2001 08:09:10

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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Well, after blood sweat and tears (almost) I gave up on Solus Basic. How big is Solus Pro 1.5 in MB's? I hate to beg, but....? :')

MD

02-01-2001 19:31:39

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
how do i get pegeterm to see my GPS ? When I go to it and try to "Make a New Session", it asks me to select a modem but I only have IrDA on COM3 and Hayes Compatible on COM1. Am I missing something to add the Rand McNally GPS to that list somehow ? Or is there another way to get this all to work ?

mfet

http://www.mfet.net

02-03-2001 19:28:59

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
oh wait, never mind, i'm an idiot...found what i was looking for. :)

mfet

http://www.mfet.net

02-03-2001 19:31:04

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
I have tried a USB to PS2 adapter for use with the RandMcNally Streetfinder GPS for Laptops and it seems to work as a power source for the GPS. I say "seems" because through pegterm.exe, I am now receiving data from the device. But when I try Pharos, I am not quite sure what needs to be done to see if it's receiving GPS data. Also, if I can get that working, where would I find/generate the maps ?

Also, I am thinking about getting the Sony Skymap 2000 GPS PCMCIA device for use with the Epods. Do I need Windows CE drivers for the device to get it working ? Or can I just pop it in and be sitting pretty ?

mfet

http://www.mfet.net

02-06-2001 15:59:33

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) epoderone
Mfet:

What city do you need a map of? I'd love to see you get Pharos working..

02-06-2001 17:55:42

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) joemi
I can verify that the Skymap2000 pcmcia does not work.. at least I could not get it working....
Joe
02-06-2001 18:06:22

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) lowmazda
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mfet,
It took like 3 minutes atleast for pharos to see the data (for me). I dont have any map data so I could only see the sat signal strength and the bearing.

epoderone,
got any extra maps for long island, ny? :)

also. i dont have a ps2 power port on my laptop. so when i tested this out w/ the streetfinder gps unit and software. also tried ms streets and trips 2001. for power i went to radio shack and got a battery holder for 4aa batteries. found an old ps2 motherboard connector.. connected the battery power and ground to the ps2 connector's power and ground. the battery holder even has an on/off switch. worked fine. dont know what kind of draw it puts on the batteries. not like it matters because my ps2 cig lighter adapter from rand mcnally came today. but i had to play over the weekend.

02-06-2001 19:03:47

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
eporderone:i am looking for maps of the los angeles area.

joemi: did you need windows ce drivers to get it to recognize or it doesn't even ask ?

02-06-2001 22:48:42

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
mfet, when you use pharos, i think sometimes you need to enable "GPS position" under find in order to see sat. signal strength.

if you can see sat. data in pegterm with USB-ps2 converter, then it should work with pharos too.

please let me know if pharos work with the USB port supplying power

02-07-2001 02:45:36

New MessagePharos Wav Giles (modified 0 times) poochinator
to change the massages to whatever you want just edit the file in a wav editor and then upload the same named file (ie. msg1.wav says "highway entrance ahead") change it to "Jackass, you should see the entenace now"..... just keep under 2 seconds, so the file doesnt exceed 20k. Then upload it to the /windows directory. Whoala, it should tell you anything you want.
02-07-2001 09:03:19

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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Well folks, for the record, I got my Epods to work with my Earthmate. In the end I had to use the Solus Pro 1.5 software as no other WinCE GPS software works with the Earthmate. The Solus maps are B&W and of just OK quality. They must be downloaded from the Solus site. The Earthmate is fairly quick to aquire it's eight sat's and updates fast. No elevation though.

But it works. Thanks everyone that tried to help me.

02-07-2001 16:32:03

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Epoder
I'll try to get the maps up on geocities..

so what GPS hardware do we have confirmed working on the Epod so far.. and what seems to be the best?

anybody try the iGPS-180 made by Pharos?

02-07-2001 22:02:19

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) lowmazda
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I've tried the Rand McNally street finder gps. Worked fine (finding satellites and telling direction).
02-07-2001 22:58:48

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
i was just outside for the past 10 minutes kind of waiting to see if the pharos would get any data from my rand mcnally and it didn't see sat. position or direction. i checked pegterm and it was still receiving something. could it just be the area i'm in ?

iowmazda: what did you use to power the gps ?

02-07-2001 23:42:23

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) cestar
mfet, did you enable "GPS Position" under Find menu bar??
if that option isn't checked, you won't see any sat signal. if you are see data coming in in pegterm, then you have verified the GPS is working properly.
02-08-2001 02:58:43

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) lowmazda
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mfet: what i did was i found an old ps/2 adapter that connected to the motherboard. it has a 2 inch wire on it and a black connector at the end. found the pin outs. went to rat shack and picked up a 4AA battery holder w/ the on/off switch. wired power to power, ground to ground. connected ps2 to temp power pack. and flipped the switch. worked like a charm. i did however order the rand mcnally cig lighter ps2 power adapter for it which came 2 days ago. so now i have a backup battery pack.
02-08-2001 17:42:53

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) jonesy
So is it usable.. or is it unbearably slow..

please share.. I might go out an buy a gps just for my epod

02-08-2001 19:23:58

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Naysayer
so the Earthmate works, but only with Pharos????

And Rand McNally Works, but with what Software? Is there any software that has color maps and works with a useable gps reciever?

Naysayer

02-09-2001 11:45:39

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Tanasta
Does anyone have another working link for the Pharos GPS CE Software?
02-10-2001 15:12:54

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
Woo hoo! I finally got Pharos GPS working! But not with the PS2 to USB adapter. Apparently, although the epods is receiving a signal (gets data through pegterm), it was only receiving it in bursts every 2-3 seconds. When I plugged the PS2 plug into a laptop that I put next to my epods just to provide power, I started receiving constant signals from the GPS (every 1 second or quicker). I tried that setup with Pharos and I was then able to see the satellites and locate my latitude/longitude.

So basically, I don't know if this problem is because of the specific ps2 to usb adapter I have, but it doesn't seem to work with it. I might just go with the car adapter from rand mcnally but I'm going to keep my eye out for a ps2 to usb adapter that works properly with the RandMcnally GPS and the epods.

So on that note, where can I get maps for Pharos or how do I generate them myself ?

mfet

http://www.mfet.net

02-11-2001 01:21:24

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
Just a little bump to see if anyone could tell me where I can get Pharos maps for the Los Angeles area ? Please ?

mfet

02-13-2001 11:22:28

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) EpoderONE
The Pharos Los Angeles map is available @

http://www.idrive.com/amaker/

Hope this works.. let me know if it does or doesn't.


The link for Pharos GPS software is

http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=2320&pf%5Fid=MP730902&listing=1

or go to mobileplanet.com and search for 'phaors'

Good Luck!

02-13-2001 12:39:37

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) kc5vcx
I realize this is the never ending question, but it still seems to be working, and I'm in need!!! Does anybody happen to have a Pharos GPS map of the North Dallas area? More specifically Plano, TX. I would greatly appreciate if anyone could help me out.

Thanks again.

02-13-2001 18:18:28

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) mfet
Thanks, EpoderOne. The maps came out great! My only question is if it contains all streets and addresses on the map. I tried to do a search but it didn't find it.

I'm also looking for maps for Santa Barbara, Las Vegas, and San Diego. Is there an easy way to generate these on my own ?

Thanks,
mfet

02-14-2001 15:37:07

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) theisgroup
kc5vcx,

did you ever get the map for plano. I live in that area as well. Thanks in advance

my email is theisgroup@hotmail.com

02-15-2001 15:25:03

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) kc5vcx
Nope, I haven't gotten a map of the Plano (North Dallas), TX area yet.

Anybody have one?

02-15-2001 20:29:40

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) EpoderOne
I'll try and put up the maps.. Its slow on a 56k modem though, anybody want to donate broadband? :)

i'll try to put it up this weekend..

02-15-2001 23:34:44

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
Midwest and Chicago Maps would be great! Nice program. Is there a way to import maps. I was using another program similar but for the Palm Pilot which lets me import maps from Mapquest. Do you know what type of formatting they use for their mapping?
02-18-2001 09:23:47

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
The "rmf" format used is a conventional GPS mapping format. Looking for a way to convert maps which would make the software very flexible.
02-18-2001 09:38:01

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) bluediamond
Has anyone got a working link to dload PharosGPS?
02-18-2001 12:33:56

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
> Epoder1...I have a broadband connection and accounts on all the current #########s out there (at least most of them)....
02-18-2001 17:49:39

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
I finally found the time to hook this thing up and get a working cable... first thing I did was pop on Pharos GPS and hook up my AirMap. Worked like a charm (NMEA output). The only problem is that I am now in desperate need of maps :)

If anyone can help out with a Kansas City map, I'd appreciate it - and any of the surrounding area if possible (Lawrence, Overland Park if it's seperate from KC, etc). Thanks and my mail is zhensel@att.net if that would be easier. I suppose I can always scan in some Rand McNally maps and go scout out the Lat/Lon myself, but that would seem rather impossible :)

02-21-2001 16:58:16

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) MASJM
Does anyone here currently using the Rand McNally GPS working on Microsoft Street 2001 on their epod? I know the MS 2001 support GPS, If so, how is the performance and accuracy?

Thanks in advance,


MASJM

02-22-2001 15:04:37

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
Streets 2001 for CE supports GPS? Seriously? If that works on the epods, I'm there... I've already got an older version of streets that should have reasonably good maps (or you can head to compUSA any sunday and get it for free after rebate... most of the time.)
02-22-2001 16:32:50

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Fool
MS Streets & Trips 2001 supports GPS, but it is not an ce version software. You can download MS Pocket Street for free from MS web site. It works with MS CE OS, but doesn't support GPS as I know.
02-22-2001 23:04:32

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Fool
Hi, mfet.
There are two maps to cover los angeles area: Los_Angeles-North and Los_Angeles-South. The one was posted I believe is Los_angeles-South. If you live in north, you will not find the address.
02-22-2001 23:30:13

New MessagePharos RMF maps (modified 0 times) daves
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does anyone have a pharos map for the Chicago Area?
02-25-2001 02:34:40

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) tanasta
or san francisco?
02-25-2001 04:36:51

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) pete
Just purchased a trunk mounted GPS small with antenna if anyoneis intrested let me know.
02-26-2001 04:33:16

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Ionizer
Wow this is a long post.

I need a summary of whats the cheapest GPS that works with an epod and what software and where do you get the maps. There's like 3 essential parts to the equation.

I have the pharos GPS software, but where do you get map files for it?
What is the cheapest GPS to use with Pharos?

Any suggestions would be helpfull, I've kinda gotten lost in this thread with what works fully (by fully, i mean, GPS + SOFTWARE + somewhere to get maps from)

thanks guys, im enjoying my 2nd day with my epod. I brought it to class cuz I had just picked it up from the post office on the way, and everyone was staring.
-Ionizer (Jared)

03-09-2001 02:51:21

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
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Pharos software.. I installed the version from the thread above.. That works.. however the the lack of maps avaliable.. I was forced to purchase the full version.. Now I have maps and the installed version from above.. My problem is this.. I installed the new software, its a higher version than the one from the link above and I figured it might have someting better in the way of features.. when I try to run I get cannot find 'ostia' or one of its componets.. Anyone have any ideas? I would not have a problem helping a few of you out by giving out a replacemnt map for your area due to the fact you lost your orginal install cd's. I have good bandwith.. just no place to put them.
03-09-2001 18:04:52

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
Put all the files under the windows directory and make sure u memory level is set right. I live in Chicago and would be interested in some local maps please write to pcalleros@ameritech.com.
03-10-2001 06:31:56

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
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humm.. I copied all files from my \pharos ostia directory to my \windows directory..

Same thing.. missing ostia.exe or one of its compoents.. I also tried to install it again. Still didn't help.. Now I be dope and am doing somthing wrong... Do you have the newest version? version 3.5 of the pharos software? maybe its on of them programs that won't run... Can your email except a 5 meg file? that is how big this file would be.. to replace the one you lost. I have no idea if its legal to send the file, so I asume you have the software and lost your disk, I am just helping out a fellow pharos user. :)

03-10-2001 08:28:46

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) pete
Yes please give me your email or email me
03-10-2001 09:16:20

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
You can use nbci sharehouse for large file storage (sharehouse.nbci.com) - there shouldn't be a large demand for any files you upload, so it probably wouldn't get pulled (though they have a really sporadic record as far as deletions go.)

As far as your problems go, the version I have of pharos tells you to put Ostia.exe wherever you choose and the audio in the \windows directory. I imagine that your problem probably isn't related to that (since you tried the windows directory.) It might have to do with dependencies. Check out the software section of www.geocities.com/epodsfiles to download them and try that. Beyond that, try to e-mail pharos and tell them that the software doesn't run on windows ce 2.12 and ask if they could possibly figure out why and/or send you the referenced dll's and whatnot that you are missing. I imagine that they have a relatively small userbase and would be receptive to your request.

03-11-2001 20:27:46

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Fool
Hi, Daves.

You can manually install your pharos software to your epods. You may try following steps, it may work. If not, you can call pharos for help. My friend was helped out by getting a set of unzipped files and manually copied to his epods.

1) insert the installation CD to your desktop and press FINISH button to quit installation when installation window show up.
2) use windows explorer to browse the CD to find Ostia.HPC211_MIPS.CAB file.
3) copy this file to your epods either main memory or CF card.
4) locate the filename from your epods and double click on it. Normally the software will be installed automatically.
5) if still not working, you may have to call pharos for help.

The new release is much better than old one. It allows user to save waypoints to database.

Hope it helps.

03-15-2001 22:29:45

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
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Thanks fool, I wm trying this as we speak....

As for the other who asked for chicago area map... I finnaly got of my lazy but and created an accout on sharehouse.nbci.com

please try the following link (forgive me if this doen'st work.. from other posts, it looks like the first atempt to upload a link never works)

http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/CHICAGO_SUBURBAN.exe

03-17-2001 02:02:49

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
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Thanks Fool.. It did work..

and I did screw up the link...

http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/CHICAGO_SUBURBAN.exe

try that one.. who knew putting a \ in front would help.....

03-17-2001 02:08:12

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
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since I was in such a good mood from getting pharos to install, I went over the whole thread and found a list of city maps requested. I have uploaded all the ones I found.

http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/san_diego.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/santa_barbara-lompoc.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/dallas_south.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/dallas_north.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/Las_vegas.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/lawrence.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/Kansas_city.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/san_francisco.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/NEW_YORK_CITY.exe
http://sharehouse.nbci.com/get_file/755291/New_York_north.exe

if the links dont work, you can go to www.sharehouse.nbci.com and search, under software\utilities
Only catch is you must be a member of nbci to access these maps.. use this link to sign up for a membership
\http:\www.nbci.com

Enjoy, I wish to thank eveyone in this thread, as well as the entire EPODs thread. I was one of the 300 people who purchased an orginal Epod. Well, my work did anyways. Its nice to have a pratical use for it. I have found the GPS/Pharos works very well. If anyone else who has Pharos, and lost their CD's please let me know what maps.. I will do my best to upload them.

03-17-2001 02:54:37

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
Thank you for posting the MAPs. Had a stand alone GPS that I was using but currently building a GPS for the car using a Trimble module (purchased for $50). Its very small and it comes with a small magnetically mounted GPS antenna. I called Trimble up and the newest version of the module sells for about $900. It has many features: model SVeeSix-CM3 Differential-Capable miniature GPS module, u can change bios (have tried and works well) to utilize TSIP, NMEA and TAIP. On the NMEA it will talk: GGA, VTG, GLL, VTG, ZDA, GSA, GSV and RMC. It comes with a TTL level serial IO (I built a small TTL to RS-232 converter).
03-17-2001 09:24:07

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
Daves, if you can upload the newest version of the application that would be great!
03-17-2001 09:27:05

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Graah
Hey guys...I've read through the posts but it's kind of hard to keep track of the relevant info after 81 posts or so. I was wondering if someone could post the combination that they have gotten to work for the GPS units. Specifically I'm looking at getting the Pharos along with the software and it'd be good to know that a) someone got it to work and b) what versions of software and mod level of their epods. Might even be useful to just post that info in a new thread. At any rate their is some good stuff in this thread. Great community.
03-17-2001 11:42:33

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Kevin
Love the epod GPS. Daves or anyone? Could you upload San Jose and the whole silicon valley map to NBCi? Thans in advance.
03-17-2001 12:02:09

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Kevin
Daves:

All of your links of different city maps are the same Chicago map. Can you check? Really need SJ,SF and the surrrounding area. THX

03-17-2001 12:16:18

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
I downloaded all of them and they are fine.
03-17-2001 12:33:49

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) Pete
MISTAKE on my part, rechecked them and yes they are all Chicago.
03-17-2001 12:35:43

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
GRAAH: As long as you have a GPS receiver that outputs NMEA data to a RS232 serial port, you'll be fine. Most GPS receivers (even the $50 dollar ones) will do this, but some (like the earthmate I believe) will only output in a specific binary format. On my epods (hack V2), the Ostia.exe program runs in full screen mode, but I haven't dl'ed a map to test it with yet. It should work the same way regardless of whether you have a software hack or the regular epods shell installed - I've run it before and after the hack and it worked fine.
03-17-2001 14:32:10

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) tanasta
yea, chicago is cute and all, but do we need that many maps of it? Anyone know what's going on?
03-17-2001 15:07:38

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
He only posted that this morning... wait a bit before complaining eh? I'm going to go ahead and make a new thread and try to consolidate the information here - this is too long for my 56k modem.
03-17-2001 21:24:58

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) kc5vcx
I made an important discovery. Daves did successfully upload the correct maps however the links were not correct. I attempted to download the files before, and it asked you for a user name and password (which I created) and then proceeded to download a file, called Dallas_North, but which turned out to be Chicago as soon as you extracted it. I got curious, so I made another attempt today to download the file, but when I clicked on the link and logged in, it said they rearranged their format and had a list of files to download or you could do a search. So I searched for Dallas and found a file (actually it showed up as two) and they were different file sizes, so I suspected it would be a different map. And... It Was! So the moral is to do as he suggested if the links were bad (which is the case), and search for the files. I think it has something to do with the fact that each file has its own ID number, and the directory is actually that files ID number, so when he linked them all through that folder, it kept giving us the Chicago maps. So all apologies to Daves from those of us anxiously awaiting and even some who complained. Thanks AGAIN!

(Does anybody happen to have an Austin, TX map as well.. presumably including the area surrounding the University of Texas?)

03-21-2001 21:54:53

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) daves
sorry for the bad links... I suck. oh well... I hope everyone found the maps correctly.... I will be happy to upload Austin Tx as well as other maps.... I have dsl so the 10 meg is not a big deal for me....
03-21-2001 22:35:27

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) tanasta
So hey, I found out how to download the maps correctly, but San Francisco seems to be mising. That's probably the one I want the most, if not the only one. Would anyone mind uploading another San Francisco? the NBCI sharehouse thing lets me get to the download page, but it says nothing is there when trying to download. You think they pulled it?
03-22-2001 10:17:01

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) yellow1
any hope we can get SF and Bay Area maps up somewhere ?
TIA
04-22-2001 10:54:25

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) yellow1
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hope daves is still around, in which case it would be great if he could post the 211.cab, cause i've had no luck with zip posted. don't want to buy the software if for some reason it won't work with my magellan map 330 which outputs 3 different types of Nmeas though
04-22-2001 23:14:43

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) yellow1
bump !
04-25-2001 14:12:03

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) IBEW
Anybody have a working link to the Pharos GPS software. I tried the ones listed...no good.

Thanks in advance

04-25-2001 16:23:09

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
Just uploaded the zip to freedrive.com (pharosgps:pharosgps) - it should work. Freedrive has been used before for iopener stuff. In case the word freedrive gets censored, it's f r e e d r i v e . c o m with no spaces. Dig?

IBEW: This should work alright. Make sure you follow the directions and place the files in the proper directory (I think the windows directory - Ostia.exe can go wherever you like though). I can't see any discrepency between the different software hacks / hardware versions of the epods that would make your zip not work (unless it was corrupt or something). If you are trying to run the zip on the epods, that could be a problem unless you have an unzipping program installed. Just unzip it on the pc and copy the files over manually.

As far as the San Fran map goes, try going to sharehouse.nbci.com, logging in, and searching for "san_francisco" - it will return two seperate files. One of them may work.

Now that I'm headed off to college I'll probably need a Champaigne-Urbana map (Illinois)... any help? :)

04-27-2001 15:03:30

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
I just put Pharos through its paces, so I thought I'd post a little review. First of all, if you are planning to use this as some sort of car navigation aid, you're crazy. Not only would it probably get you killed, but the "route" finding feature doesn't work. I did manage to create a successful route by telling it to go a few blocks down a street, but that is hardly what I'd like to use it for. Even a simple 1.5 mile trip down major roads generated a failure in the route calculator. I also tried making a route through downtown Kansas City (from the zoo to Kemper Arena) with no luck (I thought it might work better in metropolitan areas).

What this does work well as is a moving map GPS display. It would be nice for pilots who can't afford the multi-thousand dollar gps units. There are two big problems with this though - the passive screen and the overly-detailed maps (can't turn off minor roads). Also, from what I can tell it is pretty difficult to navigate outward from a zoomed in point. You have to drag the stylus northeast and keep repeating until you zoom out enough. Ideally, there would be a drop-down box where you could select, say, four zoom levels (street level, major roads, nearest highway, whole map or something) to quickly zoom out so that you can zoom into the place you'd like to add to your route. Of course, since the route feature doesn't work, this is moot.

I'll agree that reading the maps through CF is pretty slow, but not intolerable. If the software was more complete, it could work. Ideally they would let you create and save custom views and selectively enable/disable map features. I'll try loading a smaller map into the RAM and look for improvement. One major problem with the slow loading is zooming out (since every time you zoom out it loads new roads). Again, if there was some sort of "view bookmarking" feature, this wouldn't be too much of a problem.

Lastly, having selective availability turned off by the government is awesome. The Find->GPS Position in Pharos goes right to where my house is. Of course, evil terrorists can now aim GPS guided missiles at my house as well, but I'll take the good with the bad.

04-27-2001 20:12:44

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) yellow1
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which version are you using ? The one posted here or the more recent one that daves bought ?
I understand the new version has improved features, so mayb eit addresse your concerns.
04-27-2001 21:22:21

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) IBEW
Thanks Zhensel....got it.
04-28-2001 03:25:49

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) JoeBlow
the pharos stuff got knocked off freedrive. Any other place to get it? Just bought a nice Garmin GPS for my boat and I can't wait to try it with ePODS.
04-29-2001 07:10:26

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) zhensel
OK, apparently someone at this board sees putting up the zip is piracy (which I suppose technically it is). I just wanted to test the software and if I liked it and thought I'd use it, I'd buy it. If you look at my review above you'll see that wasn't the case. The new version may be better, but without a way to test it I'm not going to shell out $80 for it. I know this board has a non-piracy policy, so if someone thinks posting a stripped-down version of the program is piracy, I won't. I don't have the strict BSA-induced "piracy is wrong" attitude that everyone does, but I can respect it on this board. If I use something, can afford it, and the creator is alive, I buy it (otherwise, I wouldn't have bought this Tortoise CD I'm listening to).

For future GPS discussion, I suggest we switch to the smaller, less "piracy"-plagued thread here: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=EpodsOne&Post=1028&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=4&Session=

04-29-2001 09:24:16

New MessageRE:YES! GPS WORKS!! (modified 0 times) wwboater
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Atlanta please??
06-01-2001 18:51:50

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