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Why Should We Keep Our Epods?

New MessageWhy Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
I've spent almost $100 adding stuff to my Epods and I am still not too impressed with the device. Sure, it's cool looking and it's fun to carry around and write on, but I think it basically needs a much faster processor to be really useful for what some of us want to do with it. If you've seen a site like www.techbargains.com, you know there are some huge tech deals out there. I woke up this morning, looked over at my epods, considered how much it's worth now and I remembered seeing this deal:

HP Laptop 03-Feb-01
Walmart.com lowered the price on the Hewlett Packard Pavilion N5125 Notebook PC With 500 MHz Celeron Processor and DVD to $749, $6 shipping. 12.1 TFT active matrix screen! 64MB/5GB/8x DVD/Modem! Update: Sold out!

Granted this thing probably sold out within a day, but they reposted the ad when it came back in stock. I'm confident I can find similar or better deals on the site in the future. BTW, you should all go to www.techbargains.com once a day because it has awesome tech deals and it is where I first heard of the Epods. This laptop is even faster than most of our desktops! Plus, it comes with a ton of space for our little goodies and a DVD player (now wouldn't that be sweet?)! Sure, it is slightly bulkier than the epods, but if you consider how much bulkier it is, it's not that much more of an inconvenience. Why don't we all just sell our epods for like $450-$500 and spend an extra hundred or two buying a really fast laptop? Sure, it's not top of the line, but my 400 celeron desktop roars and this thing even has a 3D accelerator! That's the question I want you guys to answer.

02-12-2001 11:15:14

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) ePodsFinale
Well, it sounds like you would rather have a laptop, so I am not sure anyone will be able to convince you of otherwise. But here is what I use my ePodsOne for:

Listen to MP3's while reading ebooks
PocketStreets - maps for vacation (worked great this weekend!!)
Record voice notes during meetings
CE 2.12 Dev platform for web-based home control unit

What I will eventually use it most for:

Wireless computing at home using Terminal Services. Nothing beats connecting wirelessly to view live streaming video/audio to see who is at your front door from the couch. (http://www.x10.com has GREAT deals on 2.4gHz cameras!!)

The size of the unit is what makes it ideal for me. A laptop would be overkill for what I use it for. But a laptop may be your best option, depending on what you need from a device. If you are thinking of selling yours I would do it now while the price is still good, in a month or two the mania will have subsided and they will more than likely sell for much less.

02-12-2001 12:46:37

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Martyj
The big difference is that the notebook takes time to boot where as the Epod is instant on. I will be using mine with home atuomation so the instant on is necessary.
02-12-2001 13:43:09

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) chewy
i'm sorry you dont like your e-pods that much, personally i use mine to death, and it's a lot smaller than any laptop out there, yeah it's not as small as the pocket pc's, but i dont like screen's that small. it's a nice medium for me anyway. i dont wanna listen to mp3's on it, i can do my work and be happy. so why would i get rid of mine, i probably wont.
02-12-2001 13:50:27

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
HOLY CRAP, post if you see that laptop deal again!

I would easily trade my epod and a couple hundred $ for a laptop that nice!

02-12-2001 14:52:30

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Here it is again!

HP Laptop, Feb 12

Walmart.com has the HP N5125 Laptop Again. $749 for Celeron 500, DVD, 12.1 Active matrix screen.

02-12-2001 14:57:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Honus
Golly, what did you expect the ePods to do? Clean your car? Solve your personal problems? Hand job? It's a freaking toy, for god's sakes.

Honus

02-12-2001 15:21:08

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Wait, it's out of stock again. You should just check walmart.com once in a while to see if it is in stock.
02-12-2001 15:21:42

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) xterra2000
If you don't like your ePods. Sales it here, I bet ton of the people who appreciated ePods will love to buy it from you.
02-12-2001 16:02:59

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Honus, I didn't suggest that I was expecting a miracle. I'm just saying for a similar price we could get something that does everything the epods does and much, much more. Chill out, dude.
02-12-2001 18:32:54

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
I traded one of my epods in for a Mobilon Tripad because I liked the "webpad" functionality of the epods, and the keyboard modem is a plus to use with games (PalmGB, Pocket Word, outlook etc.) No need for the presentation mode (maybe a digital picture frame -- it does come with a full-featured image editor/viewer). It has complete windows ce 2.11 and should be compatible with everything everyone has been trying on the epod. I am going to keep my other epod to mess around with, but as many other suggested it really has just been a "toy" for me.
02-12-2001 18:35:34

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Honus
No problem, Garibaldo, I was just looking for an excuse to sneak in the phrase "hand job" here.

Honus

02-13-2001 05:33:25

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) JamesD1343
Billings, how are you liking the Mobilon ? I just did the same thing and am thinking of abandoning my ePOD completely and keeping the mobilon. I havent received it yet though and was wondering about the rumors of poor performance on the Mobilon with the stock 16mb...figure Id get the upgrade to 32mb. Let me know what u think...
02-13-2001 09:31:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
It should arrive on Thursday -- so I'll let you know how it is. The processor is supposedly a tad bit slower -- but it has everything already built in. The display is also about an inch or so larger. I'll give you the full report when it arrives.
02-13-2001 10:31:54

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Jackalop
Guys: Where are you trading in your epods for a Mobilon?
02-13-2001 11:03:28

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Check eBay, some guy was unloading like 5 and had it at a buy price of $310. I listed an epod too and it is above this. So just list yours and buy one for a comparable price -- almost like a swap.
02-13-2001 11:31:29

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
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I bought two of those HP Laptops. They are incredible for the price. Lots of features like CD controls on the front of the laptop so you can listen to a CD without booting the computer, high quality TFT screen, internet hotbuttons, DVD player etc. And you can add another 128 megs of memory for around $50. It's a steal. Not only that but it has a 5 gig HD which HP formatted to 4.3 gigs and Walmart is giving everyone an additonal 10% off the price because someone called and complained the hard drive is "only 4.3 gigs and not 5 gigs as advertised"!! Can you believe that? That is incredibly generous. That's another $75 off the price and if you buy it through Ebates you get another 3% off for a total cost on this laptop of $625!! And shipping is only $6! Total cost $631 shipped.

Specs: Celeron 500 (running on 100 mhz bus), 64 megs, 8x DVD, floppy, 12.1 TFT screen, 5 gig HD, video out (to play DVD's on a TV), serial port, parallel port, 2 usb ports, winME etc. All I can say is...wow! I bought two of them. They came back in stock yesterday after being sold out earlier. Maybe they will get more. Keep checking the walmart site.

02-13-2001 13:16:05

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Geekgranny
I purchased a Mobilon 6000 on eBay a couple of weeks ago. I LOVE it!!! I have another arriving any day.

BYW... I'm keeping at least 6 of my ePods for various uses including home/office automation and security AV monitoring.

The Mobilon 6000 screen is crisper and easier to read and the colors seem more vibrant. The battery lasts longer than any of my ePods, the attached keyboard is really handy, the virtually infinite folding positions enabe you to view it from any conceivabe position without extra stand. and when folded closed the screen is totally protectecd so that you don't need to rig up any hard screen-protector when you throw it into any ol' carry bag.

My epods' will serve their purpose just as will my Mobilons [and my >5 I-Openers; various versions and hacks]

BTW.... I'm using Proxim Symphony wireless off a Symphony ethernet gateway located on second floor of big house[server will be a hacked I-Opener when i get the time to do a processor upgrade]. Just tested wireless in all rooms. walking around with my eBub connected to this b-board and working great. Also, have a Rangelan Access Point but haven't had time to play with it yet. Awaiting delivery of MS Server trial which I know will spoil me and my gadget Bubs...

Forgot to mention that the Mobilon is just a hair bigger than ePods but "waffer" thin. It's hard to visualize how the got everything in to it.

Be well all,
THE Geek Granny

02-13-2001 14:02:20

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Geekgranny
Forgot to mention... In the next couple of years we are moving off-grid and will be generating our only electric power. Every watt is precious and expensive [initally] to generate. Devices such as many discussed on this board are ideal for power efficiency with relativly low initial layout for "systems".
02-13-2001 14:11:58

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Geekgranny
Another "forgot to...."

My Mobilon does surf faster. AND I still love my eBubs' !!!!

02-13-2001 14:19:39

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Maldoror, are you willing to sell one of those laptops? If so, I really, really want one. I can't even find that laptop on the walmart site anymore and I get the feeling they aren't going to order more.
02-13-2001 14:36:29

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) xterra2000
Maldoror, if you want to sale one of the laptop, I will pay $800. What do you think?
02-13-2001 15:51:23

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) busdepot
So what is the advantage of the epods over the Mobilon? If it is about the same price on ebay, there must be an advantage to the epods or we'd all be buying Mobilons instead.
02-13-2001 16:06:40

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Yeah -- the epods is "rare" hehe
02-13-2001 18:29:46

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Groch
I owned a Mobilon before the Epods. There are advantages to each. The primary advantages of the Mobilon are its full complement of CE HPC/Pro Office programs/compatibility with more software, a cool folding design, and a rather cramped and awkward keyboard. The Epods is definitely lighter, has a faster modem, and I think a sharper brighter screen. It also seems a bit quicker to me, though both are slow as web surfers. The weight difference seems greater to me than the specs might indicate, enough so to make me prefer the Epods overall.
02-13-2001 18:52:27

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Calvin
I agree, the Mobilon includes everything right out of the box (synch cable, charger) Battery lasts 10-12 hours, screen is larger, includes a keyboard. Why do you think so many people are unloading their epods on ebay?
02-13-2001 19:30:15

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) ePodsFinale
Hmm. I retract my original rational answer.

You shouldn't keep it. You should give it to me for free. :)

02-14-2001 13:01:38

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) JimVisitor
So where is this HP laptop on the walmart website, under notebooks, only one is listed, is it in a specials area? Thanks!
02-14-2001 20:03:54

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) JimVisitor
So where is this HP laptop on the walmart website, under notebooks, only one is listed, is it in a specials area? Thanks!
02-14-2001 20:03:55

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
It looks like they sold out :( Ubid.com. I see these deals all the time on techbargains.com.
02-15-2001 00:16:19

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Laptop is back in stock. Check it out!

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=932331

Click through on Walmart's ebates.com link to save an extra 3%

02-15-2001 10:54:21

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Sorry here's the link http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=932331
02-15-2001 10:54:43

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
Sorry guys I bought two the the laptops but one is for me and one for my girlfriend. But they did just come back in stock today and sold out again. They had like 100 more for sale today. Seems like they go in and out of stock frequently as they get more stock, so I'd keep checking the link Billings posted.
02-15-2001 17:20:50

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) jakob
To maldoror and others,

A few newbie to notebooks questions:

1. It does not seem to come with CD rom - how do you load programs?

2. How do you get the 10% discount you mentioned re: the HD formatted at 4.3gb?
It is priced at 749 on the site?

3. How decent is the touchpad to use ?

4. Is the battery and battery use decent?

5. BTW, return policy seems good - they pay
return postage.

6. Do you have to start the purchase process at ebates site for 3% discount? I've searched for the item there and can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

jakob

4. Why is this considered such a good deal?

02-15-2001 19:13:18

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
I doubt you can get the 10% discount for calling about the hard drive they got smart and posted the actual specs on the web site now "(formatted to 4.3 gig)".
02-15-2001 19:21:07

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) jakob
maldoror,

one more question - where can you can the 128mb memory for additional $50?

jakob

02-15-2001 19:21:27

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Kingston's web site has 128MB DIMMS for $50
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.asp?Sku=695712-4
02-15-2001 19:30:06

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Honus
You know what I'm thinking, right?
02-15-2001 19:41:56

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Calvin
No idea -- clue us in.
02-15-2001 20:15:32

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
To respond to : Martyj as per his laptop vs epods "instant on"

Laptops also have a "suspend" feature that has a separate partition [I think that is why the hard drive for the Pavilion is formatted only to 4.3 gig] which will dump the RAM into a file and then shut down. It is called hibernation. Clicking the power on will bring up the desktop just as fast as the screen comes on. Most newer laptops support this technology.

02-15-2001 20:18:29

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
>>To maldoror and others,
>>A few newbie to notebooks questions:
>>1. It does not seem to come with CD rom - how do you load programs?

The 8X DVD drive doubles as a CD-Rom drive. An 8x DVD drive also corresponds to a much faster CD-Rom speed. It might be equal to a 32x CD-rom but not sure exactly.

>>2. How do you get the 10% discount you mentioned re: the HD formatted at 4.3gb?
>>It is priced at 749 on the site?

People have just called and told the CSR "my friend ordered one and got a 10% discount because the HD is only 4.3 GB when it is advertised as 5 GB" This might not work anymore since they added a notation on the web site about the drive being formatted at 4.3 but it's worth a shot and it worked for me.

>>3. How decent is the touchpad to use ?

The topuchpad is high quality. It's feels very sensitive to the touch to me.

>>4. Is the battery and battery use decent?

I haven't tested battery life yet but the documentation says "up to 3 hours" battery life. You can also get a 4 hour Lithium Ion battery for it from HP.

>>5. BTW, return policy seems good - they pay
>>return postage.

The shipping cost is a great deal too. They charged me $6.94 shipping for *two* laptops and even though I ordered ground they sent it 2 day shipping!

>>6. Do you have to start the purchase process at ebates site for 3% discount? I've searched for the item there >>and can't seem to find it.

Yes you must start at the ebates site. Click on the walmart link at ebates to get to the walmart site.

>>7. Why is this considered such a good deal?

Because it is almost impossible to find a brand-new, name-brand laptop at 500 mhz or better with a high quality TFT screen, DVD drive and floppy both built in for such a low price. I haven't seen another laptop with these specs at this price anywhere else.

02-16-2001 01:14:54

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) jakob
Hi,

Starting with ebates and clicking thru to stores - WalMArt, I can't seem to find this notebook. Is it only accessible thru searching when it's in stock?

02-16-2001 06:24:42

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) ePodsFinale
Try these. Of course, before purchasing from ANY eretailer you should visit http://www.resellerratings.com to see what others have experienced.

http://www.dealspree.com
http://www.techbargains.com
http://www.neticamall.com/
http://www.newegg.com/

02-16-2001 07:43:57

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
jakob, for some reason the laptop seems to be accessible by going through the direct link (posted earlier in this thread) but not through a search on the walmart site. Not sure why.
02-16-2001 14:44:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) osuuma
I just got off the phone with Walmart.com. Seems the supervisor there was claiming that the listing on the website was a mistake, that the price was incorrect, and that they would not be receiving any more.

I informed her of the out-of-stock, in-stock behaviour of this product, and she concurred that such events did happen, however they were not going to have it available for sale ever again.

So I think I will be checking every day now, morning and night.

Last night, I thought I got lucky, as the "Out-of-Stock" text was replaced by an "Add to Cart" and a "Save to List" button. It was a fluke. Could not get through the check out procedure.

02-16-2001 16:00:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Osumma, what makes you think the supervisor was lying about not ever getting it in stock again?

Robin

02-16-2001 16:19:16

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) osuuma
I really didn't think the supervisor was lying to me, she was just repeating what she was told. It may have actually been the truth.

From past experience, I have found that when strange things happen once, they happen again. Remember the ePods at Amazon or Fingerhut? They were in-out-in-out of stock. I was able to get one by being persistent. I will be this way with the laptop at Walmart. If they really are all gone, well ok, that is $750 I have not spent.

02-16-2001 17:36:21

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Osumma, what makes you think the supervisor was lying about not ever getting it in stock again?

Robin

02-16-2001 17:37:44

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) jakob
There seems to be a bunch of these notebooks - HP N5125 - on Ebay.
02-18-2001 15:01:45

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
That's because these bastards bought out their stock only to resell them and make a ton of money. They are no better than ticket scalpers. I hate these guys!
02-18-2001 15:07:36

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) super_Pad
Talking about laptops...

I came across the BEST SITE for new laptop prices.... they are insane! What they do is to do group buys and that way you get great discounts, if you are a student or a reseller you even get better prices...

the site is....... http://www.mednetplus.net/ (down today, but will be up 2/19/2001 again)

take care

02-18-2001 21:25:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) profeign
um, notebooks don't accept standard DIMMs, last I checked. Even the new laptops that they use desktop chipsets for (for higher processor speeds, like the 800MHz PIIIs that came out a few months ago) don't use DIMMs because they're so big. They usually use SODIMMs (small outline dual inline memory modules) that are waaaaaaaaaay more expensive than a normal DIMM. They are addressed differently (fewer contacts) and they generally use 128Kb chips instead of 64Kb chips like your average desktop DIMM, and the PC100 SODIMMs are not $50/128MB. Am I wrong? Are these HPs using normal DIMMs? That would be weird, but possible. Also, I just figured out how to integrate an ethernet adapter so you have a normal RJ45 jack in your ePods. It's a production, but shouldn't take more than a few hours. Let me know if you want to know how. profeign@hotmail.com

Thanks.

02-19-2001 01:24:27

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
The SODIMMS used in notebooks are not way more expensive than standard DIMMS anymore. Times have changed. Dell online has been selling 128 meg SODIMMS for $48 + shipping!
02-19-2001 12:16:23

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) profeign
If so I stand corrected. I see SODIMMs for $63 but I believe the ones listed are all 66MHz. Thanks for the heads up, though, maybe it's time to upgrade my notebook!
02-19-2001 12:41:18

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Someone please please sell me their HP N5125 notebook!
02-19-2001 12:55:02

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Steve
For those interested in the Mobilon you might want to do a google.com search for mobilon.
there is a message board and some complaints.
http://www.google.com/search?q=mobilon
http://www.wincecity.com/boards/Mobilon/
http://www.wincecity.com/boards/Mobilon/messages/12555.html
02-19-2001 15:27:50

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
super_Pad, mednet has really high prices. We are talking about an awesome laptop for around $700 and their prices start at $900.
02-19-2001 17:15:16

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Bob01
To Billings or whoever owns a Sharp Tripad, Can you tell me the performace difference in per se, calligrapher?, Does it take a noticeably longer time to recognize the handwriting?, hows the stock handwriting recognition that comes with the tripad in comparison to calligrapher?, Hows the tripad when it comes to having 2 programs running simaltaneosly (compared to the epods)? (ie. thinking here Word, Outlook and Calligrapher...guess that would make it 3 ) the reason Im asking is because I purchased an E-pod for the main task of being a note taking device and organizer for classes, however the organizer part, it cant do without outlook or any of its Dlls. thanks to any and all input.
02-19-2001 21:49:41

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
After playing around with the tripad for a while I have noted several advantages -- build quality being the first. The unit is very solid -- the hinge is made of solid metal and the screen adjustments are very nice. It is nice to have the functionality between webpad and keyboard -- screen quality is just as comparable to the epods -- take that however you'd like [whether the epods is "high" quality or not] The touch response seems about the same. The screen touchpad is less like the glossy epods and more like writing on paper which is a plus. The tripad is a little bit bigger and a little heavier but much easier to carry -- the word ergonomic comes to mind.

Things like Remote Control Commander and PALM GB run fine on it. A noticably tad bit slower, but app/menu navigation seem much faster. It is the polygon graphics drawing where the processor really shows it weak spot, but if you get this thing expecting not being able to play full screen Doom its very nice.

I was surprised that the fax modem port is built in (non removable) with just the port - that is real nice since it frees up the PCMCIA slot for something else plus the compact flash port [it's hidden in the battery compartment].

My final analysis, fair market the Tripad is easily worth $450 and has a lot more exploration potential than the epods. The epods' fair market shouldn't be more the $300, because it's limitations are more quickly evident -- nonetheless the epods definitely has a place in home automation and GPS navigation and specialized apps. I am just saying the casual user who buys it thinking it is a PDA will be more disappointed.

02-20-2001 12:04:39

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
Actually the 128 meg SODIMMS Dell has been selling for $48 + shipping are PC100. I got 256 megs of SODIMMS for around $100 for my two laptops. I also noticed Crucial was selling some 128 meg PC100 SODIMMS for around $60.
02-20-2001 23:08:52

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Billings
Got the HP Laptop yesterday and since several people mentioned about it, and some were considering the purchase I thought I'd post a brief review. To say the least -- I was very impressed! Didn't know the Walmart low priced version also includes "TV S-Video Out" so you can watch DVD movies on your TV. I read specs hoping this would be the case and I think it is standard on all the Pavilion series laptops. You can make the installed Toshiba drive region free with the latest firmware upgrade online at some hacker sites as well as using DVD Genie (otherwise with the built in region coding you only get 4 chances to change the region and then it sticks with the last change). Display is pretty crisp. I had heard sound quality was poor but with CDs and DVDs it wasn't terrible. I wished the speakers were up by the display (they are hidden in the front) but if you are using external speakers or connecting it up to an AV output it should be excellent. I have the same processor on my desktop computer and it seems just as fast if not speedier (probably because the registry is not yet bogged down :) ) This thing is a *steal* at $749. Even if you used it as a DVD player alone [the quality looks excellent -- not quite as good as a standalone DVD player, but I'd use it instead of having to lug one around the house to watch in different rooms or a perfect thing for keeping entertained on trips in hotel rooms and such]
02-22-2001 08:48:48

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) jakob
Billings,

Thanks for the Hp5125 review. I've been watching WM but the last time I saw it in stock, it disappeared in minutes. Anyone have any hints on grabbing this - especially thru ebates?

jakob

02-22-2001 09:34:58

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
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The video put on the HP laptop is actually an RCA plug, not S-video but it doesn't really matter unless you want to hook it up to a big screen TV or something and if you have a big screen you have a good stand-alone DVD player anyway. I have to reiterate my views on the HP laptop. It's great bargain for the money.
02-23-2001 00:02:13

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Maldoror, please please stop bragging about the HPs.
02-23-2001 00:14:48

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
Please stop bragging about the HP's? WTF? LOL.
02-23-2001 12:14:23

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) someguy
What was the original question again ?????
02-23-2001 12:32:01

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
The original question has been forgotten but it was "Why don't we all just sell our epods for like $450-$500 and spend an extra hundred or two buying a really fast laptop?" Garibaldo was not impressed with the Epods and thinks a laptop is much better. Well first of all the question is flawed. You'd have to find a rube in the Apalachian Mountains to buy an Epods for $450 or $500.

BTW, for those with laptops, Dell has dropped the price on 128MB 144pin PC100 SODIMM chips. They are down to $42.95!

02-23-2001 13:56:59

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
The question is not flawed at all. The epods that are selling on ebay right now are going for around $400 and the majority of them have no added features. Most of us could get $400 or more with all of the goodies (CF cards, ethernet cards, null modem cables, mice, etc) that we've added. You said the laptops came out to around $620-650, right? That's only a few hundred more for all of the added functionality of a laptop. It seems that a lot of people are trying really hard to get this thing to do the impossible when we could all just get a laptop to do the things we wish we could do with the epods and more. Obviously some of us like the epods because of the touchscreen features and its lightweight design, but it seems like the majority of you could sit there and do the same cool things with this HP N5125 laptop. Maldoror, as if it isn't bad enough that you got a laptop and rubbed it in, you have to be insulting about it too. People like you suck ass.
02-23-2001 14:36:31

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Calvin
I agree. The majority of influx of interest has been with newbies who are like -- can this play DVDs? can I open my garage door with it? can I control my home theatre? etc. etc. The answer is 9 times out of 10 -- NO. Yes it is interesting exploring the limits (and mostly the limitations) of the epods, but I think the wall has been hit as far as this device is concerned, just as the interest in iopeners peaked (after people realized the performance was pretty lacking and technology was limiting) Why spend hundreds of dollars on a device like the epods that a laptop can do (and well) at a fraction of the price? Again as was mentioned before, of course the epods has a place in home automation, GPS and that sort of thing, but bottom line it is not a computer, heck it isn't a full Windows CE device.
02-23-2001 14:50:45

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) maldoror
Garibaldo, why are you stooping to insults like "you suck ass"? That's totally uncalled for. I wasn't rubbing anything in. Just recommending the HP. The problem with written communication it can be easily misinterpreted. Don't assume bad intentions because it makes an ASS of U and ME. I suggest you give people the benefit of the doubt next time.

Anyway, the HP laptop comes and goes in and out of stock on a regular basis. It's not like you have no chance to get it. Get one of those programs that detects changes on web pages and you'll get an alert if you are on-line when it comes back in stock. It's come in and out of stock at least 4-5 times since it was originally offered.

Ok, back to the question at hand. First of all the Epods are not mostly going for $400. The prices that are around $400 almost always include accessories. Secondly, even if the going rate was $400 that's not the $450 or $500 posed in your original question. Now if you want to count accessories into the price you should also take into account accessories for the laptop. You'll need a memory upgrade because you won't be happy with 64 megs, you will very likely need/want a laptop bag, probably an ethernet pc-card or usb ethernet adaptor etc.

Finally the 10% discount on the Walmart laptops is over so you'll have to pay the full $749 + shipping now. It's still a hell of a deal and I still would buy it at that price. But the bottom line is that you're going to pay $350-$400 more for even a bargain basement new laptop.

02-23-2001 16:05:59

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) tibet
Current average price of a standalone used Epod on Ebay - $312

The last 8 Ebay sales:

2/22 Epod (with wireless networking cards!) $402
2/18 Epod (standalone) $305
2/17 Epod (with 8mb CompactFlash card, null modem cable, PCMCIA network card) $346
2/16 Epod (standalone) $291
2/15 Epod (SEALED BOX) $425
2/14 Epod (w/Scandisk ImageMate, 16MB flash card, null modem cable) $420
2/13 Epod (standalone) $330
2/12 Epod (standalone) $324

02-23-2001 16:42:31

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Yes, things can be misunderstood over message boards. When you say "The question is flawed", you're also implying something about the person who is asking the question. Don't pretend like you didn't mean to be abrasive with that comment. If you actually bothered to read my previous post, I said that most of us with an Epod loaded with goodies would get around $400 and that is definitely true. Attacking my argument on the basis of it actually coming out to $300-$400 instead of a couple hundred makes it seem like you missed the whole point of my arguement. A lot of you are spending hundreds on CF cards and wasting your time trying to get basic functions like an email client or a mp3 player to work. I think most people here would love to get one of these for the extra cost. No, I don't think I'll be wanting more memory, PCMCIA cards are each on ebay and laptop cases are even cheaper. People need to really understand how limited the epod is as far as functionality and decide whether the laptop is a better deal or not.
02-23-2001 17:52:17

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Duh!!!
Garibaldo,

Why are you comparing apples and oranges? For additional $300 i can get a desktop twice or three times as good as the HP notebook. But, that doesn't mean I like the desktop better. If you are too lazy to hack or don't have the knowledge to do so,then don't. Part of the fun is to hack the epod and get something out of it, obviously you like the easy way out. Everything has a limit (even the HP)and that is why I bought the epod to try to extend that limit. Keep in mind that all the things, such as PCMCIA cards or flash card can be reuse on many devices and certainly not a waste.

Duh!!!!

02-23-2001 19:41:02

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Screw you, jackass
They are not at all "apples and oranges". A laptop is very similar to an epods. You're an idiot for believing everyone is paying this much money for the "thrill" of hacking. YOU may have bought the epods to try and extend the limit, but YOU are in the minority. People don't buy desktops and laptops to extend their function. They buy them for the function that is available at the time of purchase. When did I ever say that PCMCIA cards and flash cards are a waste? Never. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
02-23-2001 21:18:35

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
Why not compare apples to walnuts? Anyway, right now the Epods' is clearly the best in the HPC form factor. Just as the Casio E125 is the best in its form factor. Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me.
02-23-2001 21:20:55

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) epoder
"Too lazy to hack" -- why does everyone think that playing around on the epods is "hacking"? Get Linux working that would be hacking. After you escape the initial epods password sequence and load in the update the "hacking" stops.
02-23-2001 21:24:53

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Duh!!!
Hey Baldy,

"People don't buy desktops and laptops to extend their function. They buy them for the function that is available at the time of purchase" Yeh!!! thank goodness YOU are the only stupid person around that doesn't know how to upgrade or add additional functionality to a desktop or laptop. Why don't you compare your right thumb with your dick, I bet your thumb is bigger. As for you epoder, don't you think the 32meg upgrade consider a hack? Jack, just because you play around with YOUR (self) epod doesn't mean the rest of the people aren't hacking. As i recall this is call hack your epod site.

Duh!!!

02-23-2001 22:40:43

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) epoder
Ok so the 32MB is a hack too, but why put a $400 + unit at risk for 16 measly megabytes when you can do the same thing in a laptop by snapped in more memory.
02-23-2001 22:59:57

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
"Everything has a limit (even the HP)and that is why I bought the epod to try to extend that limit." Upgrading a laptop or desktop is nothing like soldering ram modules and capacitors potentially ruining this very expensive device. You are obviously some sort of mental reject. "If you are too lazy to hack or don't have the knowledge to do so,then don't." What the hell did you come up with on this board that really showed you know how to hack ####? Answer=nothing! You are a leech who used the genius of others to claim that you're a hacker and then you call the rest of us lazy because we don't want to #### up our devices by adding components like memory to it. Comparing this task to pushing a peripheral into a desktop IDE slot is TRULY like comparing apples and oranges. Hold on...I'm trying to imagine you with a personality.
02-24-2001 01:52:22

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
A PDA and HPC can still do things that a laptop can't, and visa-versa. It's almost as if some have grasped onto a single thought, and can't see past it.

I certainly can't see taking a laptop on a crowded subway to read an E-book, just as I can't see an Epod capable of play Quake III, or watching DVDs. Although, I could never see myself doing those last two things very often.

And, in fact, I still can't understand why someone would purchase a powerful computer to play nothing but games, or a robust DSL connection to download nothing but porn and MP3s. But then, there is a new generation of computer users that probably doesn't deserve ownership anyhow.

02-24-2001 07:16:23

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
And there is absolutely no risk involved in installing an extra 16MB on a Epod if the person has the skills. But perhaps computers have been made too easy.
02-24-2001 07:50:39

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) epoders
But installing the 16MB is beyond the point -- what more can you do with 16MB? Attempt to run more programs that tell you they need certain DLLS?
02-24-2001 11:20:58

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) resol
"I certainly can't see taking a laptop on a crowded subway to read an E-book, just as I can't see an Epod capable of play Quake III, or watching DVDs. Although, I could never see myself doing those last two things very often."

Okay so essentially you have a $199 paperback book ... smart.

02-24-2001 11:27:09

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) lensman
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OK, I'll classify myself as a hacker-wannabe. I fiddle around with stock components on desktops and notebooks. In my favor, I'll say that just getting stuff that's supposed to work to work seems like hacking sometimes [Hmm. maybe if I try updating my bios, my machine with newly installed network card, i'll be able to use the "restart" option again without locking up on loading the driver]. On the professional end, I've gone over to the dark side and design and manage development of risk management systems for banks.

I'd like to analyze the benefits of the Epods in two categories, as an entertainment expense and as an asset.

Entertainment expense: I've had nothing but fun with my Epods since getting it (except for the night spent determining that my new 128MB CF card was defective). I've wanted a webpad since the summer and having one has been just short of dreamy - slow IE annoys me, but we'll get to that later. I remember the first week I got my Epods. I left work "early" just to play with it. I work in NYC. One night of drinks and dinner, maybe a bit of pool...maybe a movie, cab ride home, runs about $50 - $100 a person. Except for the lack of human interaction, the Epods is a bargain.

Asset:
ebook - $200 (i'm not enamored of the concept, but that's the market price)
avantgo client for stored web browsing - $0 (don't want to double count the ebook-like functionality)
better screen and input device than my cellphone for mobile internet on SprintPCS - $50.
gps head end / portable map - 50% of $100 = $50.
digital picture frame - 25% of 200 = $50. (when the Epods becomes COMPLETELY outdated. is this viable?)
webtv replacement - $100 (instant-on web access while in front of tv)
Windows Terminal Services Client for PC running WinAmp on my stereo - priceless (future project, will this work - the winamp-to-pc sound card part, that is)

Total as an asset: $450.

Sure, the Epods design isn't optimized for these functions, but it is a single unit that does all this. The fact that it is more general purpose mitigates its lack of form-factor deisgn optimization for specific tasks.

The conclusion for me is that the Epods was definitely worth the money as an expense. The jury is still out on whether I will find it a bargain as an asset. I need to actually find an application that I use a lot before I can say "yes". As many people have said, it isn't a desktop computer, it isn't a notebook computer, it isn't a PDA, it IS a tablet computer (nee webpad). If you have a use for one, then it is definitely worth keeping. I'm just excited to be able to participate in the birth and/or death of this computing form factor. I'll be proud of it either way - have I mentioned that I own two Newtons?

02-24-2001 14:32:06

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
Yep real smart. I can read whatever I want whenever I want. And while you are busy developing that trigger finger, I will be choosing the Ivy League school of my choice. I'll have done more with my disabled Epods' then you'll have done with your fully functional Laptop.
02-24-2001 15:49:43

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
How surprising that ASDF is a high school student. You definitely show the maturity of one. I'll be graduating from UC Berkeley and entering medical school after that. Best of luck getting friends with your ego. Enjoy jerking off while everyone else is at the prom.
02-24-2001 22:26:16

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Duh!!!
I wouldn't talk, anyone can get an Artcy degree, as far as entering Medical School, you will probably fail the oral exam, when they find out how duh!!! you are. Better wish I don't come across your name when the oral interview starts "Garibaldo from UC Berkely yr2001" shouldn't be to hard to spot.

Bull, you say!!! We'll see.

Duh!!!!

02-24-2001 23:22:19

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
My major is in molecular and cell biology, not some artcy degree (learn to spell, moron). UC Berkeley is one of the top 5 schools in the country for my major and we have the most competitive premed population in the country. That's okay, I'll just wait till you get sick and then have them pull the plug on you in the operating room. Not like there would be a big difference between the braindead moron who's posting under these retarded names and a clinically dead moron.
02-24-2001 23:51:59

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Triod
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HEY HEY HEY now

Flame yourselves elswhere.... stick to the suject please.

02-25-2001 16:17:41

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) someotherguy
UHH What was the subject again????
If people want to trade insults give out your email address so we dont have to tread through the junk to get the informative hacking stuff we all "supposedly" came here for.
BTW this is my 1st, last and only post in this subject. Goodbye
02-25-2001 16:44:09

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
Garibaldo,

Incidentally, it was you who primarily resorted to clichéd insults, while I was merely speaking euphemistically. Although, please note how this one is addressed directly to you.

In addition, this is not an argument against laptops - incidentally I own one - or laptops vs. Epods. Rather, it was a discussion regarding the relative merits of the HPC and laptop form factor, but again, there is a density keeping you from this realization. If anything, you will float to the top of your class and graduate at the bottom of it.

Of course you are at Berkley; it is there they study the fruit fly.

And, speaking of spelling, your "arguement" seems to have eluded the OED's radar.

02-25-2001 20:10:57

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) vagitizer
this thread is dead...
02-25-2001 20:18:05

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
ASDF, if you look back at your first post in this thread, you'll see that you ended with "Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me". IF you don't think that's insulting, then you're an even bigger moron than most of us first suspected. I'M THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD!!! Obviously I grasp what the thread is about because I'm the one who directed and first proposed that we look at the merits of both form factors. I don't go to "Berkley", I go to Berkeley. Hmmm...do you go to "Harvaurd"? Your trade school education has obviously taught you nothing. If you really want to duke this out, why don't you give me your email, phone number or (better yet) your address? We also study feces in some of our reseach facilities, so you'd fit right in.
02-25-2001 21:27:14

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
You study fecal matter at the "reseach" facilities? You have made it too easy, so I will just let your words subsist.

So, in other words, you felt insulted by a general comment, which was not directed at anyone in particular - interesting malady.

And, right, that's Berkeley - typos happen. Again, I was not the one who amended another’s spelling, and then punctuated it with a tactless insult.

Moreover, do they teach grammar at Berkeley? "Your trade school education has obviously taught you nothing." Says it all, now doesn’t it. Priceless.

02-25-2001 22:29:26

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
Obviously you aren't man enough to face me outside of this forum. Yes, we study all sorts of things at Berkeley. That's what it takes to develop the medicine to cure worthless people like you. Your comments weren't directed at anyone?! You said you don't know why it is so hard for people to grasp this concept. Who were you talking about? "Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me." <----THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IF IT IS DIRECTED TOWARDS NOBODY. UNDERSTAND!!????????????? IDIOT! Tactless insult!? hahahahah
TACT (noun): The ability to appreciate a delicate situation and to do or say the most fitting thing.
I guess we're in a delicate situation here. I wouldn't want to say the wrong thing and shatter your fragile ego. This isn't a social situation that requires tact! Try picking up a dictionary, jerk.
"Your trade school education has obviously taught you nothing." Why don't you tell me what's wrong with this sentence. I dare you to!
02-25-2001 23:34:52

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) epoder
Okay guys the pissing match is over -- nobody won, and this is getting way off topic.
02-26-2001 00:56:51

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
The fecal matter comment went over your head, figure it out. Tactless is an adjective, which describes the noun insult. tactless adj 1: lacking or showing a lack of what is fitting and considerate in dealing with others. And, until you can teach someone nothing, your sentence will remain grammatically improper. And Epoder is right, this is over. I doubt you even go to Berkeley - unless there is a community college by the same name.
02-26-2001 07:09:40

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
It didn't go over my head. I just didn't find it insulting. You've tried to insult me several times in your posts (poorly I might add) and you have the nerve to claim that I am not considerate towards others!? Anyone with half a brain realizes that you hold a huge double-standard here. I think it's pretty funny that you redefined tactless in the context of what you were saying and the definition was pretty much identical. You totally missed the point there, but I can't say that I'm surprised. You can obviously teach someone nothing just as I can give you nothing and you arguement has contributed nothing to the topic. Get it? The fact that you don't believe that I could go to Berkeley is a great compliment to the institution and its students. Thanks! Anyways, I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself on this board. Why don't you move along now?
02-26-2001 11:36:06

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) akelley
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Garibaldo,

As someone who has attended medical school myself, I would suggest that you learn a bit more restraint. Patience is not only a virtue, but probably the only thing that will get you through your first two years of med school.

Good luck.

02-26-2001 11:58:36

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
You're right. I shouldn't let these type of people get me down.
02-26-2001 12:40:47

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
Garibaldo, you are all over the place, and about as self-assured as a puffer fish. Nevertheless, I will just let this one just sit, as I won’t ever resort to personal name-calling.

And, I agree with akelley, perhaps some self-restraint is in order.

02-26-2001 20:22:19

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
It's interesting that you won't resort to "personal name-calling", but you have:
1. Compared me to a fruit fly.
2. Claimed that I have the self-assurance of a puffer fish (whatever the hell that is).
3. Claimed that I must go to a community college called "Berkeley" because you don't believe I have the intelligence to go to UC Berkeley.
4. Criticized my grammar and my tact on this thread.
5. Said "there is a density keeping you from this realization"
6. Said "If anything, you will float to the top of your class and graduate at the bottom of it."
Obviously you are full of #### and I think everyone can see that. It's a shame that the internet has facilitated a generation of weak people like you who can anger others with their stupidity and mask their identities. In the real world, a little high schooler like yourself would be silent and wouldn't dare open his mouth for fear of being beatin senseless. I miss that world.
YOU: "And Epoder is right, this is over"
ME: Couldn't help yourself, could you? I told akelley that I wouldn't let morons like you get me down and that's exactly what I'm going to do. Your posts are laughable because I know there is some chickensh*t mofo at the other end who gets a thrill criticizing others and screwing up a good thread. I never asked for you to put your two cents into this thread. You volunteered! Your first post was hostile and it was obvious that you just wanted to pick a fight with someone. Why else would you have ended it with "Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me."? Also, notice that you never bothered to provide any proof for your generalizations. Your posts basically involved a generalization and then a string of insults. People like you are always revealed for the piss-ants that you are. You'll end up at the bottom of the ladder for sure.
02-26-2001 22:11:10

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) katz
Gentlemen, and Ladies if present.... Enough! I believe we're all here to HELP one another through problems we've all faced with our ePods and share observations of our successes. The cursing and name-calling is somewhat childlike and serves no purpose on this board. We, and I emphasize the WE that own ePods and have worked through some difficult problems, have many new people logging into this board to find answers to troubling problems. I feel we owe it to them to provide valuable information which we ourselves, probably not that long ago, found helpful and helped us enjoy our ePods. Come on folks, back to business. Take a look at all the posts which have zero responses. These people are asking for help, and we're not providing it. If you have to post, post constructive. Otherwise, go down in the basement and take a sledge hammer to that old Radio Shack TRS1000 collecting dust. Better yet, take a sledge hammer to a Radio Shack sales person (also kidding).
02-26-2001 22:25:37

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) asdf
Garibaldo,

You have used words such as moron, idiot, and jerk innumerable times. Now work on negation usage and the spelling of "argument," and you should be just fine. And, actually, I do believe you are intelligent, and do not wish you any malice - good night and good luck.

02-26-2001 22:50:22

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) epoder
Can't we all just get along?
02-27-2001 00:34:28

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Garibaldo
I don't really care about making grammatical mistakes since I'm posting on a message board and I'm a science major, which requires no writing. Doctors in general have horrible writing skills. That's why the verbal and essays are really stressed on the MCATs. I can get into med school with my grades alone. I never made the claim that I have stayed away from insults. I insulted you and I admit it (I never tried to take the high road). You were the one trying to be the angel in the thread. Remember saying "I won’t ever resort to personal name-calling" and "I was not the one who amended another’s spelling, and then punctuated it with a tactless insult"???? Stop taking the high road here and admit that you are just as guilty of insulting others as I am. If you need proof, look at my last post.
02-27-2001 00:38:12

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Duh!!!!
akelley, well put.

Grades alone won't do. I have rejected many with top grades and lousy attitudes.

Duh!!!!

02-27-2001 09:43:28

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Calvin
Hehe I'm writing this from the HP laptop, I am watching "Sweet and Lowdown" while at work!
02-27-2001 14:50:57

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) starfish
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Not Active Matrix or DVD & 32Meg of RAM

02-27-2001 17:18:40

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) TechKnight
I have a Gateway Solo 5300 P3 650 laptop with dvd and all those stuff. I also have two ePods. Believe it or not, laptops are kind of a hassle. They're big, heavy, short on battery life, and have a high risk of theft. On trips, I prefer to take my ePod. Losing a $200 machine is better than a $800 one, no? Go lease a laptop or try one for about 3 weeks and you'll see that the ePod really has it's advantages.
03-25-2001 04:00:21

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Calvin
Comparing a laptop to an epods is like comparing apples and oranges, all I am saying is that if you are a student and only have between $300-700 to spend, the laptop is a compelling deal for what you get and what you can do. Of course I'm proud to own both.
03-25-2001 19:57:49

New MessageRE:Why Should We Keep Our Epods? (modified 0 times) Edragon
I only have 2 things to say

1. Epods are a fun tool. The added functionality that we get after applying some of my and others hacks just prove how people can make tools fit there needs. This is fun!

2. People need to calm down this is a list of friend all with the same love EPODS and that is what it is about if you don't like epods then we are sorry and please leave. I on the other hand love them and have allot of fun hacking and making new hacks

EDragon

04-04-2001 13:09:44

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