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Win98 and USB PC Card
Putting Win98 on a stylistic

New MessageWin98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) thesync
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OK - I realize this is a bit heretical on linux-hacker.net, but I'm wondering if anyone has upgraded a Stylistic 1200 to Windows 98, and if you have had any problems with it.

I opened up my Stylistic last night to look into doing the USB hack. I really need the USB port to be on the same side as the PC cards for use as a wearable Webcam. I've tried many times before to use machines with PC cards (CDPD modem) and USB port (Webcam) on opposite sides, and always the port on the "bottom" gets physically trashed. My goal is to put the thing in the Hazardous Enviro case, add a sholder strap, and carry it PC Card and USB port up.

Looking into the guts of my Stylistic, I came to the conclusion that there was no reasonable way to route a USB cable from the expansion port up to the top - the bottom is the only place I could see where I could mount the port.

So I'm going to look into upgrading from Win95 to Win98 and using a PC Card USB port (the Belkin model probably because it should fit with the CDPD modem coax). I'm using Windows because this particular CDPD card and Webcam don't run in Linux :(

08-20-2001 08:41:17

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) Drogue_Anathema
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Quite a few people have loaded Win98, including myself, with no problems.

RE: adding a USB port, a few people on this board have already accomplished this HW hack, and I'm aware of at least one example where the port was added to the top of the unit - so it's not infeasible. Here's a link to pics of the deed: http://www.users.qwest.net/~cybuch/2ndlevel/stylistic1200.htm

08-20-2001 11:03:29

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) daver56
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I have loaded Win98SE on several machines without any problems. After loading win98se you can add back the win95 Pen services and everything works like a champ. To prevent further problems copy a copy of the win98 CD to a folder on the Hard Drive so if you add things in the future you will have the drivers you need. The way I loaded win98se was that I replaced the hard drive in my notebook with the one from the Stylistic 1200 (mine was the 2.1 GB) and loaded it like any laptop, this way I got the pcmcia drivers loaded the first time around. Also when you copy the Win98 CD to the hard drive go ahead and copy the Pen Services and any other drivers such as printer and etc to that directory as well. Use a mouse or Keyboard to load the pen services once you move the drive back to the stylistic. I am sure you can do the same type of load from your desktop using a 3.5 to 2.5 hard drive adapter kit (Computer Geeks has them for like 3.99 ea)This way will not load the PCMCIA drivers by default because it will not see the ports like it will on a laptop. If you need to get anything else to the pentop and donot have a port replicator you can use a Compact Flash card with a PCIMCA adapter to move data from a notebook (or desktop with PCIMCA adpater)to the compact flash and back to the pentop. It works good. ( neutronnet.com has 128 cards for like $51.00) You are welcome to email me direct with any problems or questions,
08-20-2001 12:16:14

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Thanks for the suggestions! I see know how to mount a USB port on top, but I'm pretty wimpy right now, and will probably go for the PC Card.

How do I "add back the win95 Pen services"? And any ideas how I might be able to install Win98 on top of Win95 over an Ethernet connection? Otherwise I will borrow a friend's USB CD-ROM drive (w. port expander, and I've got a floppy drive as well.)

08-20-2001 14:32:52

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) CQDX
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one thing you could do is get a USB extension cable (one end male one end female) cut it in half, and drill a little hole on the top near pc cards. you can run the wire from the female end, through the hole and down to the connector you need to solder to.

This would give you a little female USB dongle right where you want it, without doing a lot of surgery. I found the best way to solder to the connector is to wrap the iron tip with some #20 copper wire so that the tip of the #20 gague coil becomes the tip of the iron. Tin the wire with some solder, knock off the excess solder, and get a good magnifier.

08-20-2001 19:54:31

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) daver56
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To get the pen services to work on Win98 you need to copy the PenServices files to a location on the Stylistic 1200 and then go to ADD/REMOVE Programs in the control panel and click on the Windows Setup. After the system searches and displays the componets click on "Have Disk" near the bottom. The Stylistic will search for the floppy by default and if you do not have a floppy attached it will come back and allow you to browse. Navagate to the location of the Pen Services files and follow the prompts. You will have to reboot, but the pen comes up right away without any problems. I put the keyboard in my startup folder so that it always loads, the only problem is that it always loads in the maximize mode and I have not been able to get it to load in the minimize mode. Compact Flash cards are comming down in price and the pcmcia to compact flash adapters are cheap...Under 10 bucks. I understand that the Pcmcia ports will not function untill the OS is loaded so you may not be able to use the CD Rom the way you mentioned. Check other threads on this board it has been addressed by others, although I have not tried it. The best way I have found is to put the HD in a laptop that has a CD ROM and load like normal. A Desktop with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter would be my second choice. You get the PCMCIA stuff loaded the first time around with the laptop install.
Good Luck
08-20-2001 22:25:01

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) daver56
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One additional thought.... You ask about loading win98 over win95 over a Lan connection. You might try this.. I should work. Once you have the Sytlistic connected to the Lan, share the CD ROM on another machine and copy the WIN98 CD to a folder in the Root Directory and run the setup from the folder on the Stylistic because you will most likey loose the network from the 95 OS while loading 98,(with all the RE-BOOTS). IF you have access to a floppy then you can copy the 98 CD as above and then boot via the floppy and erase everything except the folder where 98 exist. then run setup in the 98 folder. You may have to use a UPGRADE copy of 98 because it might still see files that you could not remove, but I think it will work if you erase everything in the root directory except the 98 folder.
08-20-2001 22:34:09

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Daver56 said: "you need to copy the PenServices files to a location on the Stylistic 1200 and then go to ADD/REMOVE Programs in the control panel and click on the Windows Setup."

Where/what are the PenServices files? Thanks!

08-21-2001 09:02:51

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I've done a bit of research - clearly Pen Services 2.0 needs PKPD.DLL, PKPD32.DLL, PENWIN.DLL, PENWIN32.DLL, PENC.DRV, VPENDC.VXD, and GRECO.DLL. And of course PENWIN.INF to install it. Is there anything I missed?
08-21-2001 10:46:05

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Ack - what about CIC PenX??? (See CICRECO.INF) I'm totally afraid of upgrading to Win98 and killing Pen operations...
08-21-2001 11:09:42

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) oldman
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instead if installing win98 for usb, why not get the usb files for win95b and save all this trouble and doubt?

e-mail me to work this out.


oldman
08-21-2001 18:41:12

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) daver56
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The Pen Services Came as part of some of the WIN95 OS's. These Pen services are loaded as part of windows any other services (not programs) The link to the Pen Services is http://reldridg.tripod.com/stylistic1200/id3.html Click on the Win95 files and download the zip file and un zip. converting to win98se is a snap and I much perfer Win98se to win95 but to each his/her own. If you would like you may email me directly and I will be happy to assist anyway I can.
08-22-2001 04:39:43

New MessageRE:Win98 and USB PC Card (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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USB for win95b is a hack. It works on some simple devices like mice and some cameras...but not CD recorders and other higher end equipment...the less hassle way would be to put on win98 or win98 lite.
08-22-2001 16:14:16

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I went ahead and ftp'ed the Win98 install disk onto my Stylistic. It took me a while to figure out how to get the install to work using a non-upgrade CD, but eventually I got it installed. I picked up a Belden BusPort USB PC Card, which is expensive, but has a very thin connector (required because my other PC Card, a Sierra Aircard 350 CDPD, has an antenna directly attached).

I also picked up a 4500 mAH battery on Ebay, and a hazardous environment case. I had to make some holes in the case for the USB dongle and antenna to stick out. The case has a foam rubber lining, giving a lot of protection to the already mighty hardy Stylistic, and has a see-through plastic panel over the LCD so you can operate it inside the case.

So now I've got a cool portable wireless webcam that runs for over 3 hours sending out an image once every two minutes :)

My last design was based on a Ricoh Magio, which while being physically smaller than the Stylistic, it was made of thin plastic, and got beaten up very badly (making it impossible to hot-swap the batteries), and the batteries only lasted about 1.5 hours. Then I spilled lemonade on it...the eraser-head style mouse burnt out. We used a PS/2 mouse, but we kept the Magio in a loose-fitting bag that pulled on the connector and broke it. Then we went to serial mouse, and broke that as well. That's when I learned about the Stylistic...

Thanks to daver56 for the link for the PenServices - this saved me from having to dig through all the directories and find all the files.

08-29-2001 11:12:36

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BTW, you can check out my Stylistic 1200 powered wireless mobile webcam here:
http://carlazone.com/wearcam3.html
08-30-2001 14:31:51

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