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New MessageCar Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) yellow1
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I incidentally posted that I'd been using a car adapter and people were asking which one it was in another thread. THe info being buried deep down there, I'll start a new thread to give easier access to that info.
ok, went to my store and that's the reference of the one I have :
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F004%5F018%5F000%5F000&product%5Fid=273%2D1825
Discontinued apparently which is a shame because it was a bargain at $69.99 and at $39.97 in the store !
cheers
05-27-2001 18:27:26

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Sparkfel
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I've seen this sale posted on several usegroups. Apparently not all Radio Shacks are discounting this item. My local RS has about ten on the shelf and they're still asking $70.00 for them...

BTW, these power supplies do not have a floating ground and may cause ground loop problems for people using their Stylistic as an in-car MP3 player.

05-27-2001 23:57:57

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Lucky
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I saw these at RadioShack but they are still $69. Glad to know they work so I'll be checking some other locations for the $39 version. I have an inverter that takes the car's 12v dc to 110v. Is there any reason I can't just plug the 1200s power cord into this? Thanks
06-05-2001 06:10:45

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) stretch
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I found these last night but I have not received my 1200 yet so I don't know what voltage is required. |http://www.traveleronly.com/products-detail-NoteBook.asp?Model=NBA001
06-05-2001 07:08:45

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) chrisp
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At my RS, the price marked was still $70, but it came up $40 at the register, so you can always ask them to scan it just to check.

Also, the one that stretch referenced is probably better (I don't know what the voltage requirement is for the 1200) because it can handle 65W while the RS adapter can only handle 30W. If you have PCMCIA cards, etc., the extra power handling may be useful...

06-05-2001 08:40:34

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Sparkfel
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The Radio Shack unit should work fine, even with additional cards installed. The supplied 16 Volt power supply with the 1200 is approximately a 42 watt power supply. In addition to the RS Universal Power Adapter, you'll need a "Adaptaplug" to fit the 1200. The 273-1723 Adaptaplug (Variant "T") works nicely. Again the 273-1825 does not have a floating ground, so you may experience ground loop problems when feeding audio in or getting audio out of the 1200. Usually a ground loop isolator will take care of that.

As for Lucky's question about using an inverter, that should not be a problem. I have a little 75 watt Linksys Branded Inverter that I've used for powering my 1200 in the car. Note that all inverters are not created equally, and some of the older ones may cause excessive heating of your switching power supply. The only way to tell is to plug it in and see if it works. If your PS gets really hot or makes bad noises, it's probably best to look into another way to power the 1200. Get a DC to DC adapter or try a better inverter. A few problems with inverters - they are lossy. You're converting DC to AC and then back to DC again. This is going to drain a battery faster than a DC to DC unit, but is probably not a big deal with your car's engine running. Also many inverters generate a lot of RFI/EMI. Again not a big deal, unless you have a lot of radios or transceivers in your car (like me). A nice thing about most inverters is that they shut off if the battery voltage drops below about 10.7 volts, so if you forget to turn it off, it won't suck your battery dry.

06-06-2001 17:27:02

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Sparkfel, maybe you can clarify some basic "power" questions I have.
1) It seems the 1200 AC adater is a 16v/2.7amps, which I guess would make it 43.2 watts.
Now the Ratshack adpater (that works great) is rated at 30w and up to 4amps. So I guess that at 16v, it can deliver 30/16=1.875amps, which seems low for the 1200, or am I missing something ?
2) Is there an easy way of knowing what the battery life is going to be, knowing what the AC Adapter wattage is and what the battery wattage. Do they maybe build the same amount of margin in what the AC adapter outputs ?
Sorry if this is basic stuff.
TIA
06-06-2001 19:14:14

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Sparkfel
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I have not hooked the 1200 up to my multimeter to see what kind of amperage it draws, but I bet it's just a fraction of the supplied AC adapter. Most quality manufacturers build in quite a bit of overhead into their power supplies. And the Fujitsu seems to be very good quality-wise. It even stops charging when the battery is fully charged, which many laptops do not do.

As for battery life, if one can figure out how much power the computer actually draws from the battery in use (which will be different from the external DC input) it would be fairly simple to guess approximately how long a battery will power the computer. There are a few pitfalls. First, batteries are rated for total capacity, and you never really want to discharge a rechargable battery below about 80% of it's total capacity. Rechargable batteries wear out. Every time you discharge a battery you use up some of the chemicals inside it, so a new battery will power a device longer when compared to the same battery after many charge/discharge cycles. Since the 1200's are used, it is really impossible to figure out the exact condition of your battery pack in it's C/D life. A battery's output follows a curve, as voltage decreases so does available amps...

The best way to determine battery life is to actually test a computer/battery with some type of battery benchmark software, which actually attempts to simulate how a computer is really used and takes into acoount all the above variables.

My 1200 seems to run much longer than other laptops I've owned (including a Solo 2300 233MMX I purchased new a few years back). I assume the small screen and underclocked CPU of the 1200 account for some of that. So I have no complaints. I was at a client site a few days ago and left the 1200 on for about 2.5 hours and used it intermittantly during that time without powering it off (system standby set to never - screen off at 2 minutes and hard drive spin down at 3 minutes). After that time the battery monitor said total power remaining was 57%. Of course I had removed my PCMCIA NIC and disabled the IR port, plus I run RAIN. I'm told that disabling the serial port will further reduce battery drain, but I've never verified that personally; and besides I use the serial port...

06-07-2001 00:38:40

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Thanks for the clarification.
Never used a multimeter myself, would any multimeter work to test amperage of any electronic device ?

In terms of battery life, 2.5 hours transfering files over my wireless network brings the percentage down to 0%, so that's not too bad.

06-07-2001 09:57:48

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Lucky
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Got the Radio Shack adapter and yes it seems to work great when the 1200 is turned on. When the 1200 is turned off the charging icon (arrow) begins to flicker as does the "power on" light on the RS adapter. The Fujitsu manual says a flashing charging icon indicates the battery is too hot but I wouldn't consider that the icon is flashing just flickering, plus the battery is definatly cool. Any idea whether this is an issue? Thanks.
06-07-2001 13:49:43

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Sparkfel
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Most multimeters will measure AC/DC amps drawn. The difference is how many amps will the meter measure. I use a BK Precision 2703A which will measure up to 10 amps, which is fine for hobbiest/computer work. I think I paid about $25 new for this meter about 6 years ago. And it's been a very good investment as I use it almost every day.

As for Lucky's question on the flickering charging ICON (which I have noticed too), I would hazard a guess that the RS power adapter isn't supplying power in a manner the 1200 expects, perhaps not enough amperage. My little arrow stopped flickering after about 5 minutes though, and it appears to charge the battery, so I'm not too worried...

06-07-2001 14:12:16

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) piper
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Car adapter for the stylistic 500, 1000 & 1200
06-17-2001 07:21:49

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) Sparkfel
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The bid is already up to 33 bucks. At this point the Radio Shack adapter is a better buy when you figure in there's two days left on the auction and you'll be paying S&H. The RS adapter only set me back about $44.60 including the "T" adaptaplug and sales tax. Plus the RS unit has variable voltage & interchangeable plugs, so it can be used with a wide variety of devices.
06-17-2001 12:11:45

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) brudoy
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Why do not solve all "Car adapter" problem together?
You can pickup Power Inverter for convert 12 -> 110 on e-bay about $40
After that all standard power adapter will work for you in car too
07-17-2001 18:38:01

New MessageRE:Car Adapter For The Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) zepplin_
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Don't know if y'all already know this, but this car adapter will work for the Stylistic 1200

Fujitsu Auto Adapter CA01007-0360

I have been using it for sometime now and it has the same voltage and connector needed for ST1200

07-18-2001 14:15:05

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