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OTP ROM Replacement
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New MessageOTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) prpplague
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"this is doable, however, the amount of effort needed to accomplish this far exceeds the amount of effort to simply replace the ROM with flash and replacing with flash provides much more functionality."

Absolutely! But what about the boards with COB ROM, instead of TSOP packaged ROM? I don't see empty pads for a TSOP device in the board images at:
http://www.amorphousmedia.net/juicebox/juicebox.htm

Are the pads on the PWB, just not in this image? On the other side of the PWB?



there are several ways you can approach this. you can remove the CoB with a small file and then solder to the pads that are there. or you can leave the chip there, just cut the vss,vdd and chipselect lines to the CoB, then place a flash chip on top and solder the legs to the correct address lines. additionally you can use a flatpack flash chip and "dead roach" it to the ram chip. my initial checks show that "dead roachin" an intel fastboot flash chip with the ram should fit in the case ok.

02-10-2005 15:37:46

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Rockhammer
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What is Dead Roaching?
02-10-2005 20:07:25

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Gultig
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It's like piggyback except the chip is on it's back like a dead roach.
02-10-2005 20:21:46

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Rockhammer
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lmao...I figured it was something like that. Thanks.
02-10-2005 20:27:11

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) newell
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you can leave the chip there, just cut the vss,vdd and chipselect lines to the CoB

Umm, wouldn't you then have a unpowered ROM chip sitting on the live data and address buses, loading it down as the bus powers the ROM through the I/O protection diodes? I like the CS cut (I'd also add a pullup on the ROM side of the cut).


then place a flash chip on top and solder the legs to the correct address lines

Oh, this I really like. Especially if the ROM and flash devices have a similar pinout, so that you don't need much blue wire. Great--OKI shows a cross to an AMD Am29DL640D flash device! Hopefully mine has a TSOP ROM, so that I can just swap it for flash...I wonder if they brought out the write enable line to the ROM footprint...


additionally you can use a flatpack flash chip and "dead roach" it to the ram chip

Hmmm. That would get you the data bus, power, and about half of the address lines. The pinouts look pretty different; pile o' blue wire?
02-10-2005 22:42:10

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Valdeargos
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If you're not too uncoordinated it's easy enough to remove SMDs by heating one "foot" at a time with a low-watt fresh-tipped soldering iron and simultaniously lifting upwards on the "leg" with an exacto.

Could somebody make a list of flash chips that are viable swaps for the 27V6402G?

02-23-2005 02:44:18

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) prpplague
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If you're not too uncoordinated it's easy enough to remove SMDs by heating one "foot" at a time with a low-watt fresh-tipped soldering iron and simultaniously lifting upwards on the "leg" with an exacto.

the vast majority of JB's have the CoB rom chip, which is extremely difficult to remove. cutting the chip select and using a pullup resistor to vcc is really the only viable solution.


Could somebody make a list of flash chips that are viable swaps for the 27V6402G?

/http://www2.okisemi.com/site/productscatalog/rom/availabledocsrom/Intro-8822.html

there is really only two perfect matches for the MR27V6402G, but the samsung processor supports a wide range of flash chips, including a full line of intel chips.

02-23-2005 15:05:43

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Valdeargos
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If I simply swap in the MX23L6410, will I be able to flash it through the JTAG interface, or are there other necessary modifications? Also, I have no idea if it's possible to access/modify the firmware images or if they must be compiled each time. Aside from CoLiLo, ìClinux,(insert decent opensource media player here), and the appropriate toolchain/makefiles what else is required to "recreate" the current flash data? Is somebody already working on this?
02-24-2005 20:09:29

New MessageRE:OTP ROM Replacement (modified 0 times) Gutierrez
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Any suggested retailers for replacement ROM's or tutorials for the process?
05-06-2005 17:30:25

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