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simple needs, limited knowledge
looking to make a point and click environment for websurfing and IMing

New Messagesimple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) infosponge
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Flame me if you feel the need. Maybe I'll still get some info from it.

I want to turn an ia-1 into a simple to use (non companion) surfing and IMing machine

I have been reading most of the posts on these boards, but a lot of it is over my head. I know next to nothing about linux. I have seen a great deal about command lines, but my question is this..

When I get my iaone setup, do I still need the commands to login and launch the apps? I just want something simple to use. i am confident I can get it going from all the great info out here, but I don't want to have to wade through programming to use it all the time. For pete's sake, I just want to surf at the other end of my house, without having to layout the bucks for a laptop.

I am basically asking, once I get the sucker setup, is it just a point and click gizmo, or do I need to use commands to operate the thing?

Any help is appreciated.


IS
12-08-2001 21:35:10

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) bballctaulbee
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- good points and not unreasonable requests
- BUT, in order to get what you want, you'll need to put *some* effort into creating your setup; if you don't want to craft your custom solution, then just use the default OS and pay the Man in Redmond...

- you can use the IA-1 as a standalone with the its modem (but not for long, IIRC, because the Man in Redmond has dropped support for the unit)

- users with an existing Windows LAN can use the IA-1 and a [supported] USB Etherenet adapter to surf; i'm not sure if this support is continued or not

- by installing DOS or Win9X on a 340MB or 1GB microdrive you can use the IA-1 as a regular 'little' computer, albeit with 32MB RAM

- an existing Windows or Linux LAN can allow the IA-1 to surf regardless of the ISP in use by using the hacked Jailbait image, IP masquerading, a supported USB Ethernet adapter, telnet and the X Window System - this solution requires only a 16MB CF card, a little bit of knowledge and effort - the software is free...

the choice of how to use the IA-1 is up to you; if you want to explore the alternatives, but don't have the knowledge or inclination, then get a cheap used laptop - you may be better off (better yet, the cost of desktops with lots of features continues to drop - thank heavens Microsoft doesn't control the Internet, or we'd be buying new computers and software every year)...

if you can't set up your system to host those apps using a Linux solution, try asking a knowledgable friend who uses Linux to show you how to remote launch clients over a network... quite a simple process, actually... i use a short shell script after telnetting to my server, and it launches a half dozen clients that set up my IA-1's desktop, correctly placing a calendar, clock, terminal window, and browser where required... this is accomplished by:

$ ./ia1

- things couldn't be easier, no?

i find the IA-1 to be a great solution - compact and totally silent with enough horsepower, networking support, and a display large enough for a readable console - i'm not limited in any way, and can even run a MacOS or Windows session on its desktop (using vncviewer)... all my applications, with the exception of sound and multimedia, work fine - this includes thousands of programs hosted on various servers on my LAN...

12-09-2001 09:02:08

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) keith721
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[off the message topic, but bball's reading here...]

i see from your post that sound still isn't working for your Jailbait. did you notice the Linux sound reference i posted at
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=MSNCompanion&Post=48&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
regarding the ALSA sound drivers that others have working?

just wondering . . . keith721

12-09-2001 09:14:07

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) bballctaulbee
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- haven't tried ALSA as yet (but i have every confidence that the drivers will work)... part of my delay is: 1) i don't have a reference box set up, 2) i don't really care about sound on the IA-1 [i kinda like it silent] 3) the current hacked distro works fine for my needs... and 4) i've got a lot of other 'irons in the fire' right now...

- however, it would be a good idea to set up a development system, either on the IA-1 or a userland environment for building clients or perhaps an updated 2.4.16-based CF image...

- i did snarf a second $99 unit from TD, so i guess i can now start implementing some hardware hacks (see the recent thread from the fellow who put in a socket and P/S switch [not needed if APM gets set up correctly under Linux])

12-09-2001 09:39:00

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) lifer
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bball,

"- you can use the IA-1 as a standalone with the its modem (but not for long, IIRC, because the Man in Redmond has dropped support for the unit)"


What do you recall about the man in Redmond dropping support for IA-1s? Any links to the news?

lifer

12-09-2001 11:15:28

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) infosponge
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I bought my $99 refurb from Tigerdirect today, should be here on Wednesday.

I still don't know the answer to my original question..."If I load Jailbait on it, do I need to type actual command lines to run the thing?"

Also, I have WinME LAN at home, will I be able to use a linux box on my network?

""I may be naive, but at least I'm not ignorant.""

IS

12-10-2001 19:30:58

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) Talaray
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Thanks to all who post here! I just got my MSN Companion and am looking forward to playing with it - I've been reading this board voraciously and it looks like it'll be fun (not easy, but that's part of the fun, right?)
One thing that I'm not clear on though; could someone please clarify? I want to use this on my LAN at home, using a USB/Ethernet adapter. Do I need to get the upgrade to V2.0 of MSN Companion? Is the answer the same whether I want to use Jailbait or Win98Se?

(I'm really just looking for web-browsing access, both for the Internet and for my Home Automation setup - homeSeer and some Audreys - if anyone has comments as to which OS is better (aside from religious arguments from the UNIX pantheon.... :) I'm looking for input. TIA!

12-11-2001 11:23:06

New MessageRE:simple needs, limited knowledge (modified 0 times) bballctaulbee
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re: "If I load Jailbait on it, do I need to type actual command lines to run the thing?"

- yes

re: "Do I need to get the upgrade to V2.0 of MSN Companion? Is the answer the same whether I want to use Jailbait or Win98Se?"

- no

12-11-2001 12:05:31

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