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Who wants BeOS 5 PE?
Who wants BeOS 5 PE?

New MessageWho wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Chris3D
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Ok, anyone interested in my BeOS 5 PE image please e-mail me and I'll give you a link to the file. Not sure what kind of copyright issues surround this, but in the end, it's just a hacked up PE install and since PE is free...

Anyway, here's where things stand:

-The install should fit on a 32 meg CF card (card must already be DOS bootable). There's 3 megs free, which should be maintained as much as possible. I noticed a tendency for the drive to get locked up when all the space is gone. A small amount of disk space must be necessary for the process of emptying the trash, and if that space isn't there, well, you can't empty trash to free up space... It's set up to create a small RAM drive for use as a browser cache, which saves disk space and reduces the read-write cycles to the CF card. The obvious downside is that it uses some of the precious 32 megs of system memory, and you loose the cache every time you reboot.

-To get the system down to it's current size, I had to delete everything but the bare minimum. The terminal is there, however all but the most necessary commands have been deleted. It makes a fine web / e-mail system (although constrained by NetPositives' limited capabilities). It's already set up for the D-Link DSB-650TX adapter and the drive setup and FTP tools are all there and functional. If you want a more functional terminal, just partition the internal CF card and FTP the full set of terminal commands in from another BeOS install somewhere on your network (I included the unzip command so you can transfer all the commands in a single zip archive). Keeping them on the internal card and putting symbolic links to them on the external card will allow you to maintain the few megs of headroom for the system.

-While everything seems to work, there are a few caveats. For reasons which I have yet to determine, the browser seems to stall for extended periods (20 to 30 seconds, sometimes longer) when loading pages and some pages aren't displayed correctly even when compared to a full PE install on a normal PC. I assume this is a result from a few key files being deleted, I just haven't been able to find which ones are at fault (I deleted a TONE of files). If anyone can remedy this, I'd love to know. Also, if anyone knows how to change the default location for saving e-mail, please let me know. Ideally, you could set it to store e-mail on the internal card, again, to maintain the headroom on the OS card.

That's about it...

01-09-2002 15:44:26

New MessageBeOS 5 PE still available on some mirrors (modified 0 times) bunk
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Try

ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/beos/beos/

pretty slow site. 1/2way done after 1hr. Not sure if this is 5.00 or newer, I remember there being 5.03 at least, as update on top of 5.00 download.

01-09-2002 22:15:52

New MessageBeOS 5 PE updates (modified 0 times) bunk
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duh. ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/beos/beos_updates/r5.0/personal_edition/
01-09-2002 22:20:00

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Lost
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I would def. like to try out your image, but I couldn't find your email address in the message or profile. Mine is bw<nospam>@family-net.net
01-10-2002 09:19:47

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Curious
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Where can u get a copy of Chris'image?
01-20-2002 15:18:44

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Chris3D
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Sorry, I haven't been able to follow the board much lately. If anyone else want's the image (or anyone who's e-mailed me but didn't get a reply) just e-mail me at chris@<no spam please>chris3d.com. I got quite a number of e-mails shortly after my post and may have inadvertently missed a few.
01-20-2002 18:03:18

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) AirMan
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Chris3D,

I don't know if you've been following the Be Liquidation Auction thread, but I wonder if you could advise on how I could use BeOS 5 PE running on a PC to mount my BeIA image for the purpose of tweaking it. From 5 PE, I tried entering "mount be.img /mnt" (after mkdir /mnt), but received the response "mount: Bad file descriptor". Figuring I couldn't mount an entire disk image, I attempted to extract what I thought was the correct partition using the Linux dd command. When I tried to mount the image from the latter operation, I received the same error response.

Your expert advice would be greatly appreciated.

AirMan

01-20-2002 19:27:15

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Chris3D
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I just copied the BeIA image to the internal CF, booted from BeOS 5 on an external CF card and tried to mount the BeIA volume. Unfortunately, all I get is "Error mounting volume". I can only assume it's a file system other than BFS, or possibly an updated version of BFS. Considering the full BeOS was the dev. platform for BeIA, I assume a BeOS file system driver exists that would allow access into whatever file system BeIA is using. Also, since BeIA is so heavily based on the BeOS, I would think the Pegasus driver in my BeOS image would work on BeIA. The most promising place to find the file system driver would be in the BeIA development platform. I've heard reports of people finding it on BeShare, but it seems to disappear before I can grab it. I'll keep my eyes out for it and keep everyone updated. This BeIA seems absolutely perfect for a web system for parents, grandparents, etc.
01-21-2002 16:24:13

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Carbon
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I have tried to mount both of the BeIA images on my BeOS desktop and they won't mount.
I don't think they are the based on R5 or else the images are not in the correct format for R5 to read.
This BeIA looks to make a nice "light duty surfer" out of the IA-1.
Can anyone confirm whether the modem works or not?
Later,
Carbon
01-21-2002 18:37:43

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Curious
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My modem dials up and sounds like its connecting, then it drops the connection.

If you use the second image (Be2.img) you can get to the desktop by pressing ALT + Q keys.

01-21-2002 18:49:05

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 1 times) uberpeon
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Interesting...in a fresh boot of be.img, hit the "Star" special key, or click favorites - a weird pane will drop down, with two choices, "aura" and "minitel". You can edit what each one does by clicking on the "i" next to the name, but I'm not sure what each one does.

I'm a bit rusty on BeOS, but check out the minitel info: beos://?signature=application/x-minitel

Anyone know the signature of something more useful? :)

Anyways, if you click the word "minitel", then click the close button, well, I'm not sure what to make of this screen, as I can't read french. Anyone out there able to translate? Might just be some weird debug version of minitel?

01-21-2002 21:31:53

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) ito6809
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Curious

My modem is working !! I have a PPP conexion.

Ito6809

01-22-2002 18:09:27

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) codummy
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CHRIS3D,
Can you make a 32 or 64 meg image of your working BEOS. If so can you mail me at t_o_owens@hotmail.com
01-23-2002 22:56:56

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) codummy
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Having networks problems, and hints
01-25-2002 16:49:21

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) codummy
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I got a 650tx and took back my plain 650 now the link light does not even show. Any hints
01-30-2002 22:03:44

New MessageRE:Who wants BeOS 5 PE? (modified 0 times) Chris3D
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A note to everyone who's having networking trouble with my BeOS image - these are the supported adapters from the driver readme file:

- Deutsche Telekom, Teledat Fast Ethernet
- 3Com, USB Ethernet 3C460B
- Abocom, USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
- ADMtek, ADM8511 Pegasus II USB Ethernet
- Allied Telesyn, AT-USB100
- Belkin, F5D5050 USB Ethernet
- D-Link, DSB-650[TX]
- Elsa, Microlink USB2Ethernet
- Linksys, USB10[TX]
- SMC, 202 USB Ethernet
and many more ...

The plain D-Link 650 isn't listed and while it does claim "and many more", I'd stick with only those specifically mentioned. As for the lights on the 650TX (or any other similar adapter) not lighting up, this isn't an indication that the adapter isn't working - mine don't light up either but the adapter works just fine. Go into the network config and make sure the settings are correct for your network. I just set it up for my little home LAN (a Win2K workstation on 192.168.0.1 sharing the dial-up connection), if your network is different, chances are you just need up adjust the network settings accordingly.

02-03-2002 00:12:59

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