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New MessageReplacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Root
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Hi everyone.

This topic has not been raised for a while. since i am about to try this myself, i am in the process of gatharing
as much information as possible. I also have a few questions:

1) Has anyone managed to replace the unhackable bios with either an i-opener bios or a hackable bios succesfuly?

I know someone (the tick?) has managed to replace the bios with that of an i-opener, but his last post says the external cf wasn't recognized, making the mod useless.

2) where can we order a hackable bios?

There were some posts saying they are available from badflash.com , but there is nothing on the web site
regarding the ia-1. (they do have the i-opener bios avail.)

Please provide information if you have it. the few people who were involved in this have gone silent, so i have no way of knowing if they managed to figuare it out, or gave up.

Thanks, Root.

03-09-2002 17:28:04

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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I have a replacement bios and socket from badflash, and had one attempt at removing the "bad" bios. I couldn't get it off with a soldering gun.

Some others suggested using a heat gun. I will borrow one and try it.

The bios I've got from Badflash is the Iopener one. I hadn't heard that it rendered the external flash useless.

Since after the mod, the bios will be socketed, perhaps we can get an image of the "good bios" from another ia1, and then it can be written to a chip.

I'm sure that if we gave Jack at Badflash the image, he'd make a chip for us.

Who's got an image of the "good" bios?

03-09-2002 19:45:29

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) thinker
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Someone emailed me a hackable bios awhile back. http://thinker.falcons2000.com/ia1/
03-10-2002 19:06:40

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Root
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Do you have any more information about it? has anyone actually had success using it with an unhackable unit?

As an aside, if anyone here is from the 537xx Area, and has a programmer, please let me know. i have both the hackable and unhackable bios here, but no way to attempt a copy.

root.

03-10-2002 20:04:13

New MessageMadison (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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OT:

You're in Madison? I'm from there, but I'm in New York City, now.

Oh well. </OT>

03-10-2002 21:56:04

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) thinker
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No report on that. The person who emailed this to me ("Rob") said that he removed his chip, moved the image to the reader, and replaced the chip in a socket on the mobo.
03-11-2002 11:58:19

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) TheTick
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Try emailing Jack@BadFlash.com and let him know you are interested in testing out one of the replacement BIOS' and he should reply with special instructions for ordering the one you want.

I tried the IOpener BIOS, changed the boot order in the BIOS with a USB keyboard, and was unable to boot to a FAT16 formated CF card. The BIOS' IDE device detection only found the internal SanDisk.

I received the "hackable" BIOS next. This time I attempted to install the socket, and wound up deforming its shape (plastic and heat guns do not mix). I need to remove it, and than install the new chip directly to the board.

Unfortunately I'm in the Northwest and my IA-1 is in the Midwest. If I find time and the jetlag isn't killing me, I'll try to finish up this weekend and report back the results.

BTW, the IOpener mod was not useless... it just may not work with a compact flash card. You may still be able to remove the internal SanDisk and solder a 44 pin IDE cable in its place. This would allow you to boot from a 2.5" notebook hard drive. rnunes has some info on this, as he has done it himself. He was supposed to try booting to a CF card with his IOpener BIOS but had never posted his results.

I haven't figured it out yet, and haven't givin' up just yet (at least not givin up completely)

03-12-2002 20:19:29

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Root
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TheTick: thanks for the info. please keep us posted. i think i will skip on installing the socket.

Now for the important news! I dont know what i've been smoking, but i tried switching the bios between a hackable and unhackable ia1, and it didnt work. the pc speaker on the unhackable unit kept ticking and it wouldnt boot (with hackable bios). then i notices that the two plcc chips are completely different makes!! the unhackable unit is SST MPF while the hackable one says aTmel. anyone know what this means? do you think this may cause permanent demage? (both to IA1 and to bios chip) ??

Root.

03-12-2002 23:16:36

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) thinker
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The people who have added harddrives used CF->IDE Adapters, not the Sandisk mod.

SST and Atmel are just two different manafacturers of FLASH modules. Just make sure the sizes and package are the same.

03-13-2002 10:44:08

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) TheTick
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At least one person did the SanDisk mod, and others were interested in doing it as well. Last I heard he was trying to get a hold of a second IA-1 so he can document and photograph it step by step. He posted his pictures of the finished results a while back.

"The people" using the CF->IDE adapters are most likely not using the IOpener BIOS.

Root: Maybe the BIOS chip was not making proper contact with all the leads. Make sure there is still some solder left at all the contact points. I think mine is gonna need some "tinning" when I get back. Last time I pulled the chip off, I did it too soon and took some of the solder from the board with it.

03-13-2002 12:57:33

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) TheTick
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Wasn't enough solder left on the solder pads. Even if I was any good at tinning I don't think it would help at this point. So in answer to your question, I don't know. I can't confirm or deny that the "hackable" BIOS from BadFlash works. I can confirm that my IA-1 no longer powers on. Doh!

Any suggestions on patching the BIOS chip back on to the board? I was thinking I could just toss the whole thing into the microwave until it all joins back together; but I'm pretty sure something else will wind up not working

03-19-2002 16:21:03

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) rnunes
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Hi TheTick,

Didn't you socket your bios? Here is a suggestion. If you send me your motherboard I will socket the bios chip for you. You pay for shipping.

Rob

03-19-2002 20:13:19

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Root
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TheTick:

I ran into the same kinda trouble. gotta find some ECE student that would be willing to help... i tried reinstalling the original bios and still no luck. i am guessing there is no sufficient contact.

Root.

03-19-2002 22:30:05

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) TheTick
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I did put on the socket, But deformed its shape and already messed up the contacts from removing the 2nd BIOS chip. (Pulled up before the solder was molten enough).

Thanks for the offer, I'll email you in a bit.

03-20-2002 16:07:20

New MessageI also toasted by IA1 (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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I think that I had the same problem... got the old BIOS off with a heat gun (though I think I took some solder with it, and maybe even damaged a tracer).

When I tried to get the socket on, the plastic deformed before the solder melted, so now I've got a $99 doorstop.

If anyone has any suggestions, or can perform repairs for me (for a fee, of course) I'm game. At this point, I've reached my level of incompetence, I'm afraid.

Barring that, does anyone need some spare parts :(?

03-25-2002 14:41:16

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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If you haven't messed up the traces, or any of the surrounding components, then you may not have toasted your IA-1 yet. Use the heat gun to get the socket back off - and then just directly flow solder the replacement chip. Sure, it's not quite as good as having a socket, but once you have a working BIOS, you shouldn't ever need to remove the BIOS chip again. Most parts are designed to be "baked" for several minutes at a temperature above the melting point of solder (which is actually fairly low) but below the melting point of the plastics on the board. I think you will find that your heat gun is *too* hot. You might want to crank it down if you can, or use metal baffles to exhaust some of the heated air away from the board.

Once you get the socket back off, put solder bubbles on each pad. I would also strongly suggest putting some thermal compound in the center to hold the part. You could use any adhesive, but this stuff stays sticky even when cold, and will obviously tolerate high heat. The compound is to keep the chip on the pads during heating.

When you align the chip on the pads, tack solder a few connections as anchors (yes, they will melt - but they will hold until all the other pads have melted too) and use your heat gun to flow the solder around the chip.

The alternative is a $99 paperweight - so you really have nothing to lose. Also, the sockets are also designed to be baked - so you might consider looking at a way to cool your heat gun and try the socket again. If all else fails, you can try baking it in your oven, but be sure you don't jostle the board until the oven is cool. (I'm serious - we have a machine at work that looks like a pizza oven with a conveyor belt)

I'll run down to manufacturing and ask what temperature they bake things at down there and post it tonight.

03-26-2002 07:15:41

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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Thanks, radar.

It does look like a couple of the solder pads took some tracer with them.

Am I hosed?

Thanks for the encouragement, in any case.

03-26-2002 08:50:29

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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If you lost traces, then you may be able to do the repair - but it depends on your soldering skills. Fortunately, PLCC packages have fairly large pins. Since this will be a permanent repair, you will need to make sure you have a good BIOS going into this. A socket, unfortunately, will not work as the thickness of the wire will make placement impossible. Keep this in mind if you haven't bought a replacement BIOS, or had BadFlash reflash your current BIOS.

To actually perform the repair, first identify which pads are missing. You may have pads that map to an unused pin, so check the datasheet for the part. If you did lift a pad that was used, then you will have to wire in a jumper. Depending on the trace size, this can be easy or hard, depending on the width of the trace. First, check and see if it directly connects to another component - then run a fine (22/24 AWG) wire between the pins. If the trace buries up into the board, you may be able to solder to the via. Unfortunately, PWB's are coated to prevent the traces from corroding, so you may have to lightly scrub the via out. If all else fails, *LIGHTLY* scrape the insulating layer off of the offending trace. You will need about 1/8" to 1/4" of trace exposed. Tin the wire, not the trace, and then tack solder the wire to the trace. Repeat on the PLCC pin. It is ugly, but I've seen *shipping* boards at work with as many as 50 of these kinds of jumpers on them. (usually due to a drafting screwup...) This will work well if the number of pads lifted is low, or the pads are far apart.

Once you are done, assuming you are successful, boot the system and make sure it's working. If it boots, and you are happy with the work, get a bottle of superglue and tack down all of those wires. Assuming your solder joints are solid, the machine should be fine. When I modified my CF slot for 5v operation, I inadvertently cut the WE line. I ran a jumper between the 3.3V Vcc line and the WE jumper using a short piece of wire-wrap wire and the machine has run fine.

03-26-2002 14:35:48

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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Ok, I ordered a "good" BIOS from Badflash.

I'll proceed with your very thorough directions, and report back to the group.

Thanks, radarman.

03-27-2002 13:49:15

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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Radarman,

I have followed your instructions, with some decent luck (I think). BUT, I have one stubborn problem.

I can't get one of my wire leads to stick to the PLCC pin. My theory is that some of the thermal compound is on the pin, and the solder therefore can't get a bond.

Do you have a suggestion for cleaning off the pin, so I can get a spot of solder to stick?

Thanks! You've gotten me this far.

03-31-2002 00:40:15

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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Assuming you are down to the last lead, you probably don't want to mess with pulling the j-lead out and doing it that way. Your best bet is to use a small utility knife and scrape the lead gently until it you get the goop off. Gentle is still the keyword, and don't apply the cutting edge against the pin (instead, scrape the cutting edge along the pin, as though you were sharpening the blade).

I would imagine what you have is solder flux on the pin. While that stuff is useful, too much can be a real pain. Unfortunately, ordinary rubbing alcohol doesn't work well with solder flux (it does work, but requires some effort)

Keep trying, and remember to tin the wire, not the lead.

Good luck :)

03-31-2002 07:40:05

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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>> Keep trying, and remember to tin the wire, not the lead.

I tried that, but I think I'm missing something. When you mentioned "tack solder" the wire to the pin, did you mean to touch the solder glob (on the wire) with the iron, or to heat the pin and touch the wire to it?

Thanks.

Also, is the idea of "sharpening" to sorta skim off the flux? I'm not sure I've got your description completely clear.

Thanks!

04-01-2002 12:32:40

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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Don't leave a big blob of solder on the wire, just leave a thin coating of solder on the wire. This is generally done by heating the wire, and melting some solder onto it until it flows. Once you have done this, use a pair of tweezers or needlenose pliers to put a 90 degree angle in the wire where the insulation ends. Place the wire against the pin you want to jumper, and tack solder the wire to the pin. You might anchor the wire with some superglue or hotglue to keep it from moving around a bit - but that isn't strictly necessary. If you have tinned the wire enough, and cleaned the pin, it should adhere nicely. The connection is solid if the solder flows onto the pin.

Also, try to make sure your soldering iron tip is in fairly good shape. An iron tip that is misshapen may result in solder bridges.

PLCC IC
----- / / <- Soldering iron tip
#####]<- | /_/
-----J |__________ Wire (90 degree crimp where the insulation ends)
-----0-------------- PWB
PAD

04-01-2002 19:52:26

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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Ok, radar, that did it.

By some miracle, certainly not attributable to skill, I saved my ia1.

As far as I know, this is the first successful bios-to-bios transplant.

It works!

Thanks so much for your help.

I took some good photos along the way, and I'll post them online soon.

So, $99 and about 15 hours of work, and I've got myself a <quote>cheap</quote> computer. Sheesh.

04-15-2002 16:42:45

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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Congrats on getting it to work. I wish I could have shown you photos of the repairs I was talking about, but cameras aren't allowed where I work - and most of the boards are classified anyway. The guys in our repair shop have soldering jumpers down to a fine art - so much so that we release production hardware with them (and they still pass shock/vibe/temp environmental testing!)
04-15-2002 16:55:27

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) TheTick
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Thanks to rnunes for repairing my IA-1, which I received back yesterday. Gets into the IA-1 BIOS without a problem now.

Acutally both rnunes and myself had both previously replaced the IA-1 BIOS with the I-Openers BIOS several months ago (his many months before mine) and were able to access the BIOS with external keyboards. Not that it matters. I think the only difference is that he has been using his as a full-fledged win98 machine this whole time, while mine has remained an MSN Companion.

04-16-2002 14:14:00

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) RatBastard
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I've not got an Iopener BIOS that I won't be using. If anyone wants it, I can probably spare the cost of a stamp.
04-16-2002 14:44:42

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Linny
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I'm about to order a bios, if you still have yours, I'm interested

On the other side, can we put a socket for the bios, or I should solder the bios instead.

07-08-2002 14:41:05

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) rnunes
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Hi,

I just plugged in the Wild Pencil's version 5.4 bios, with the sandisk mod and it worked fine the audio (line out) worked.

Nunes

07-08-2002 15:18:36

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Linny
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The problem I have, is I can't dprogram the bios. I need a replacement chip, unless there is a way to reprogram the onboard bios with this image. Where could I get
a new physical BIOS beside BadFlash.
07-08-2002 15:30:33

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) Gandy
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I keep losing track here. Does the IOpener BIOS allow access to all the CF slots or not, the only one I see on badflash is the IOpener one.
TIA
08-16-2002 18:09:54

New MessageRE:Replacing Un-hackable Bios. (modified 0 times) radarman
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Badflash will create a IA-1 boot flash for you, but you have to ask for it special. I bought one from him some months ago, and it's worked great.
09-25-2002 19:54:05

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