I-Appliance BBS The Official Source for Internet Appliance Upgrades and Mods BBS Main List | Sign In | Sign Up | Search | Help | Linux-Hacker.net Reply to Thread | Printer |

Home / Other I-Appliances / MSN Companion New midori image and build kit up! ia1hacking.com

New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) qDot Profile | Email There's a new Midori image up on ia1hacking.com, thanks to WildWildWes. From WWW: --- Changes in this version include an updated kernel, the ability to save browser settings, mappings for ia-1 specific keys, multi-system emulation capabilities, virtual consoles, a mail/news client, control over the backlight and panel leds, smbmount and some other utilities. --- So, go, download, make my bandwidth run dry! :) http://www.ia1hacking.com/ Kyle 03-11-2002 02:37:02

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile Some notes about this version: You can use the audio buttons in the upper left of the keyboard to control the volume. The leftmost gray button is now escape. The other ones are function keys. The power button toggles the backlight on and off. Alt-Power button resets the machine. The games are included for demonstration purposes. The idea is that you can download your own games from the internet and use them on the ia-1. The emulators in this version are darcnes, ucon64, and virtual gameboy. You can edit the icewm menu in /tmp/config/menu You can replace the background in /tmp/config/bg.xpm or use icewmbg You can replace the startup sound in /tmp/config/start.mp3 You can change what some of the keys do by editing /tmp/config/keys Use xkill to stop programs that are not responding by running xkill then clicking on the program you want to close. There are programs to toggle the leds using the source code neptune posted. Maillight, powerlight, netlight, and backlight. There is no need to open a root console because X now runs as root. I'm sure some unix purists may object, but given the nature of the device, I think running as user is unnecessary. You can use Sylpheed for email and news. Your settings and mail should be saved when you freeze the configuration. Keep an eye on the size though. It wouldn't be difficult to use more space than can be saved in /config. Also, remember to freeze when you've made changes to /tmp/config and opera. 03-11-2002 11:32:06

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Root Profile Is there any way to prevent a user from modifying / saving settings? I am using these as a web kiosk, and am kind of weary about switching from jailbait to midori because i dont want people making permanent changes. root. 03-11-2002 11:50:06

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile It would be very difficult to stop people from making temporary changes, but it would be easy to prevent them from getting saved. Just erase freeze and freezesh from /sbin in the build kit. 03-11-2002 12:02:44

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) qDot Profile | Email I'll add all of this stuff to the Midori user's guide later today. Kyle 03-11-2002 14:07:40

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) hw_irq Profile wildwildwes, Great work! What would it take to add Flash support to the browser? Is there enough room to make that happen? Thanks, hw_irq 03-16-2002 12:40:24

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile The main problem with adding flash to opera is that the latest stable linux release doesn't support plugins. The plugin itself isn't too big though. It may be time to look at 6.0 beta 1. 03-16-2002 22:25:00

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) qDot Profile | Email I got opera 6 TP3 running with flash on the last midori image, though not well, and the new Opera takes up 2 more meg (though I didn't try to strip it at ALL). Flash plugin runs around 800k-1meg, I can't remember exact numbers. So you're gonna have to start chopping stuff unless there's more room in the new image than I know about (Still havn't gotten to look at it yet). 03-17-2002 03:49:31

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) hw_irq Profile I just checked the Opera web site. It looks like Opera 5.05 TP1 supports plugins. Wildwildwes and qDot - did you try 5.05 TP1? It is about the same size as the latest stable 5.0 version (which does not support plugins). Do you know how stable 5.05 TP1 is? 03-17-2002 09:25:29

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Excarnate Profile I like the new Midori image. There are a few things I've changed, but aren't saved when I freeze it (either from the webpage or command line). The most important to me are the Opera settings. How can I get those saved? And how can I set and save what starts up on power on? And how can I set it to automount an nfs filesystem? My goal is to put this in the kitchen, have it mount my MP3 filesystem, and be ready to play. Have Opera running, loading a couple of pages. Have a memo/notepad/tex-edit like text editor ready to go (my wife just isn't going to learn vi Oh yes, if anyone is on a Mac and needs help getting a flash card going, contact me: ia1hacking at excarnate dot com 03-17-2002 16:10:41

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Excarnate Profile In the web browser I opened up a root window. Well, it opened up full screen in an unmanaged window. How do I get back to the browser and X session? exit doesn't work (neither does ^D). Oy! 03-17-2002 16:11:26

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile hw_irq: I have not tried 5.01 TP1 but I will try it as well as 6 beta 1. I tried 6 TP3 a while back for less than a minute and a couple of things seemed wacky so I set it aside. I will take a better look at it this time. Excarnate: It sounds like you have the version marked "new version" which is not actually the new version anymore. I think all the things you mentioned are there in the latest one. There are a couple of scripts in the /tmp/config directory that run at startup. If you want programs to start in X, you should add them to XFinit. Also, there is no longer a need to open a root console because X runs as root. 03-17-2002 16:32:32

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Excarnate Profile Thanks for the quick response. Which file should I download? I tawt I taw 3 Midori files. One "new", one "old", and one that had netscape instead of opera. It is listed as 3-11 (all on ia1hacking.com). Thanks! 03-17-2002 18:07:41

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile You want get the one dated 3-11 (midori-3.img). It was a bad idea on my part to call the last one midori-new. That should probably be changed to avoid further confusion. 03-17-2002 18:26:53

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) xmatt Profile Just noticed that the kernel version of this latest Midori is now out of sync with Transmeta's. Might your source code be made available for kernel modifications? 03-18-2002 15:54:07

prolem writting new image (modified 0 times) wildbi111 Profile I'm getting an error when dd'ing the new midori_3.img to the internal san disk. dd: /dev/hda: Input/output error 6935+0 records in 6934+0 records out Then on bootup off the internal san disk there are errors reported when starting X followed by a segmentation fault then a root prompt. I've flashed two different cf cards (16mb and 64mb) with the midori_3.img using two different methods (W2K/Diskprobe and Linux/dd). Does anyone have any idea what the problem is? 03-18-2002 20:44:36

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Freakin Profile Has anyone with an xbox considered adding Xboxgw http://www.xboxgw.com to a build? I don't know #### about linux otherwise i'd give it a shot... it would be nice to move the ia-1 out with the TV and use it to connect to my internet halo games. Just a thought... Brendan 03-18-2002 22:02:20

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile xmatt, the only modification to the 2.4.18 kernel is the application of the addpart.patch from midori beta 3. Also, I used the preemptable kernel patch from Robert Love, but that's not necessary. If people want it, I could post the whole thing, but it's really not anything new and I wiped out the hard disk it was on last week so i'd need to put it together again. wildb111, could you explain what you're doing to flash it in detail? Also, I believe there are general instructions for doing this on ia1hacking.com. 03-19-2002 06:46:35

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildbi111 Profile Wes - I've successfully used a 16mb cf card to boot up with eltorito and flash the internal san disk with eltorito and then boot up from internal san disk and using a 64mb cf card flashed with midori, reflashed the san disk with midori. Up until this past weekend when I attempted the same procedure with the midori_3.img. Now no matter which of the previous midori images I try it fails when using dd to flash the internal san -- I suspect the worse, that somehow the internal san has a bad sector? I seem to recall some mention of someone else who had a similar problem but as of yet I cannot locate that thread. I also have tried writting midori_3.img to both the 16 & 64 mb cf cards with both diskprobe (w2K) and dd (linux). If you need more info don't hesitate to ask. (Note: when flashing internal san disk with the small eltorito disk there are no errors) 03-19-2002 18:57:33

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile Before you try anything else, you might check the file to make sure it's ok. The md5 should be d9c632c2b331e5e36fdc735751356555 03-20-2002 20:24:59

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildbi111 Profile Wes - md5 checks out ok. Any other ideas? 03-21-2002 20:10:05

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) xmatt Profile Hey, in the absense of all your built kit stuff, would you mind posting just the config file you used with the transmeta midori image builder? Should just be your 150k file in the root of midori-1.0.0-beta3 that would help a lot as a starting point for customizing things for specific wishes. Many thanks. 03-21-2002 22:05:20

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Xmatt, from what I can tell the buildkits are based on the m4i buildkits. Those were built with beta2. I have been working on a "fresh build" with beta3, and will post the whole kit/image/config soon. Until then you can most likely get by with the kernel config and XF86Config from Wild Wes' buildkit. Most of the options in the buildkit config are fairly generic/obvious. Also, on the subject of beta3, there really isn't much in the way of improvement other than a cleaner init system. With beta4 going into CVS now, I'd guss it's going to stay that way. Happy Hacking, Julio 03-22-2002 09:10:08

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) xmatt Profile Julio, ah is that where it came from? Yeah, I've also been trying to just build from the ground up with beta3 (cool to hear that beta4 is coming). Unfortunately I specifically need some things like pcmcia and 802.11 support that I don't think I can get with Wes' kit. Right now I'm trying to figure out what options I need for the IA-1 (and can omit) in the Transmeta Midori webconfig and then can move on to adding app packages for various things. Anyway, good luck on your build! 03-22-2002 09:59:14

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile USB wireless is supposed to be working in the latest M4I builds.. so I'd imagine one could get the same from the ia1 buildkit given the drivers and such. PCMCIA is not going to happen on the IA-1. Sorry, but the hardware isn't there.. Pretend that the CF slot is an ide cable with a CF slot on the end, because that's what it is. AFAIK Compaq included it for upgrades. If someone (qDot?) wants to host an image, I will release a "preview" in the next 24 hours or so.. Happy Hacking, Julio 03-22-2002 11:16:43

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile wildbi111, I'm not sure what to tell you. If you were getting it to work before, I don't see why it wouldn't be working now. Even if it is a hardware failure of the flash disk, you could still put the os on an external card when I or someone else (maybe you) makes a version to boot from the cf slot. It's not difficult to do this. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. xmatt, LasersInTheJungle is correct. My midori is based on M4I created by Ingo Paschke and modified by Bob Dougherty. The only thing I have in the way of source material is the bz2 file on ia1hacking.com. LasersInTheJungle, glad to hear you're working on that. Keep us posted. 03-22-2002 11:53:52

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) xmatt Profile Ack! Apparently I need to go return my D-Link 802.11 card then. Any idea which USB 802.11 adapters should just plug in and work? If only I'd known that before about the CF slot, I could have saved myself a lot of banging my head against the wall. :) 03-22-2002 12:39:02

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildbi111 Profile Wes - Thanks for your time and suggestions. I have one last question: Can you tell me what size cfdisk shows for your internal san disk? 03-23-2002 10:13:43

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) qDot Profile | Email Lasers: Yeah, I can host it, email me at qdot@ia1hacking.com and we'll set something up. xmatt: Linksys 100BX (don't quote me on that name, but it's something close to that) USB adapters work OOB. 03-23-2002 15:27:22

Is it possible to mount a CF Card? (modified 0 times) WebDad Profile | Email With the new image, is is possible to mount the CF card? If so, how do I format the CF card so it is mountable? I'd like to configure it so that mail and newsgroups are stored on the CF card if possible. Thanks. Ray. 03-23-2002 19:26:01

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) radarman Profile Well, on a whim I gave the new Midori image a try. I don't know what is different - but it actually booted this time! :) Also, both my Netgear EA101 (kawasaki chip) and Linksys USB100TX ran great right out of the box. Nice work! I am a bit curious about the LED's though. The backlight control works (the power button), but the power LED is still dark. I also can't find the program that presumably runs the LED's. Did I miss something? Anyway, as it is difficult to tell if the machine is "on" with the backlight off, that power light would be nice. I was thinking the amber i light could be used to indicate connectivity, much like the original image. I have a shell script that reboots my IA-1 FreeBSD install if it looses connectivity (the kue driver seems to have problems) - this could be used to run the i light. The red light is a bit more interesting, and I don't have any ideas as yet - unless someone wants to hack up something like xbiff to run it. (which would be pretty cool actually) Man, I'm tempted to build a linux box to play with the Midori dev kit. Does anyone know if you can use the FreeBSD Linux emulator to host that devkit successfully? 03-23-2002 20:51:59

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) radarman Profile I've been playing with this midori image, and I must say it is some really nice work. Last comment is more a cosmetic one than anything else. The buttons in the window manager could use some more contrast. At least on my IA-1, the colors are a little washed out at the edges, so it makes the white on gray hard to see. Other than that, this is a really nice interface. 03-23-2002 21:33:04

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) radarman Profile OK - last comment I swear! :) Could we get a few more mount points in /mnt? I used /mnt/cf for an NFS mount to my music directory. Perhaps a /mnt/nfs or /mnt/nfs0, /mnt/nfs1? That would make things a lot easier, since the root file system is read-only. Perhaps there is an easier way, but it would be nice to have plenty of places to graft on file systems. 03-23-2002 21:44:04

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) RatBastard Profile This doesn't really specifically address your question, but remember that you can mount things anywhere... you can put your nfs mount in /tmp/nfs, if you wish. This goes for lots of things; I had to make a device node in there while I was working on getting my usbaudio DAC to work. Once you've got things the way you like, you can go put a real /mnt/nfs in the build kit, modify the startup scripts, and cook your own. 03-24-2002 10:32:01

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) Freakin Profile So i'm a complete linux n00b... i'm still working on getting around in it, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a good guide for creating my own build of linux... i'd like to use the buildkit, but i have only guesses at how i would use it... I think i've heard of references in this bbs about a guide for the kit, but i havent found one. Any help at how i compile it would be appreciated. Brendan brendan_resident_of_washington at hotmail.com 03-24-2002 19:16:15

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) radarman Profile I'm not a *nix newbie - but it's been a long time since I've built a Linux kernel. I've been a happy FreeBSD camper for over 4 years now. I've noticed that the Midori build lacks things I consider essential (like slogin! Who actually uses telnet anymore?), so I'd like to install Linux on something and run the devkit to correct these issues (as well as build-in support for the LED's) Also, do the build kits floating around here have the base IA-1 configuration (which should make it easy to rebuild), or are there howto's somewhere that give a step by step on how to build a Midori image that will run the IA-1? I would really like to get ahold of the configuration that was used to build the midori-3 image, as it is darn close to perfect. I'm familiar with the concepts, but this would be a new area for me as well. 03-24-2002 20:13:31

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile wildbi111, I don't have cfdisk, but the disk is 31296 sectors with 2 heads and 489 cylinders. I just re-read your post again and realized that you were flashing the image to a disk, then flashing it to another disk from there. I don't know any reason why this shouldn't work, but it would probably be safer to flash the image directly to the disk. I haven't used dd myself, so I don't know what the command line would be for this. I think the majority of users here are using an msdos boot disk and dolly to write the image. That's what i've been doing and it works pretty well. WebDad, you could format the disk with a fat filesystem, then mount it in the init script in /config with something like mount -t msdos /dev/hdc1 /tmp/cf and an ln -s /tmp/cf /tmp/.sylpheed radarman, there are 4 separate programs based on the code that neptune posted. Backlight, netlight, powerlight and maillight. The only one that's really useful right now is backlight because it's good for the power button to toggle the backlight. The other ones are basically toys since if you want to do something with the leds you'd probably want to use neptune's code to make them turn off or on instead of toggling like they do with the programs. My images are just hacks on m4i. Even if I had a configuration for midori beta3, it wouldn't produce something similar to what I have now. Also, the image already includes ssh and I believe qDot has made a build kit tutorial. And, I use telnet sometimes. :) 03-24-2002 21:24:59

RE:New midori image and build kit up! (modified 0 times) radarman Profile Cool. Is there anyway to modify a/the startup script(s) without creating a new image? I'd like to turn on the power light automatically, as well as NFS mount some stuff. It would be nice if it could remember between sessions. Also, I take it ssh is actually called with ssh, not slogin (which is usually a symlink). As for telnet, the only place it gets used on my network is to the router because it is too far from the server for serial. Once I move into my new place, all the network gear and server will be in a closet, and I'll completely drop telnet in favor of a serial link. Sure, the probability of someone sniffing my segment is damn near zero, what with the firewall and all, but I try to make using encrypted sessions a habit. 03-25-2002 18:46:58

Reply to Thread | Printer | All times are PST Powered by UltraBoard v1.62

I-Appliance BBS General - NEWS, Breaking NEWS - linux-hacker.net BBS on CD Questions - User Groups in Your Town - E-Bay, Yahoo Auction LINKS ONLY (MODERATED) - Jokes & Humor - usdtv box I-Opener Areas - I-Opener General Posts - I-Opener Technical Stuff - I-Opener Technical Info Reference (MODERATED) WebSurfer Areas - WebSurfer General Posts - WebSurfer Technical Stuff - WebSurfer Technical Info Reference (MODERATED) Other I-Appliances - Virgin Webplayer - WebPal - MailStation - 3Com Audrey - ThinkNIC / Oracle NIC - Gateway/AOL Connected Touch Pad - Philips/AOL-TV - ACER NT-150 STB - MSN Companion - Compaq IA - Emachines IA - IBM NetVista IA - Intel dot.station - MSNTV2 Network Computers - Fujitsu-Siemens Scovery Linux Net Computers - GallantWeb Server Consoles - Dreamcast - xbox hacking Web Pads - Epods One General Post - Panasonic CF-01 - Fujitsu Stylistic 1200 - Cybiko Thin Clients - Thin Clients DigitalVideoRecorders - DTV Recorders, Replay, TiVo, Etc... - Tivo Hacks Linux - Midori Linux General Board - ITX MotherBoards Single Board Computers - Earth Computers mARMalade Elite Member Area MISC Areas - The Swap Meet WE TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY TRANSACTION HERE AND NO COMMERCIAL POST PERIOD !!! - Wireless Net - Cameras - Robotics - Routers/Gateways - Mattel JuiceBox