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PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile I thought I posted this last night. Oh, well.. http://ia1.egodram.net/ I'll monitor *this* thread for comments/suggestions/flames. Enjoy, Julio 03-31-2002 12:11:50

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) bballctaulbee Profile arggh! there wasn't room for the kaweth.o module? oh well... i guess i'll wait to try this one... but i think you're on track (and nice page regarding the image!) 03-31-2002 19:37:20

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile Is the image down? I click on the download link http://ia1.egodram.net/latest and it gives me a 404. (Also, what is KAWETH, and would Joe Modem User be upset to find it missing?) Thanks, Merc 04-01-2002 12:52:57

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) qDot Profile | Email KAWETH is the driver for the Kawasaki Ethernet Adapter. 04-01-2002 15:25:08

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Merc, You just solved the "Case of the broken link." good job.. It should be fixed in a couple of mins. and no Joe Modem won't care about the KAWETH driver. Julio 04-01-2002 16:28:11

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile Ah ... I get it. :) KAWasaki ETHernet. And I'm getting it right now. :) I'll flash it later on tonight and let you know how it turns out. Merc 04-01-2002 16:53:46

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 1 times) MercenaryForHire Profile Just installed your PPP image - and I must say: sweet. Default setup was a lot easier to see, and the FunKeys and stuff are nice. Dialed up and connected nicely. (No, I'm not posting from the IA-1, but I may just for kicks.) Only things I noticed that kinda bugged me - the net light came on at startup, and the "suspend" thing doesn't want to work right on my rig. (Simple change to the script and it's back to the old "toggle on-off backlight") Merc 04-01-2002 17:40:01

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Merc, Thanks for the vote of confidence. The netled coming on at startup is annoying me too... I thought I'd squashed that bug. Hopefully it will die soon. It only happens when you have dhcp selected for the eth0 device. DHCP is the default. If you select static (even with no settings) you won't get that. The bug is mostly still there because I don't use DHCP and had my static settings in the build for quite sometime. I *will* fix this =) Which "suspend thing" isn't working on your rig? And which script did you modify? How did you modify it? I'm in #ia1 on irc.openprojects.net most of the time. Julio 04-01-2002 22:46:52

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile > Merc, > Thanks for the vote of confidence. Any time ... I tried hacking PPP into WWW's buildkit but I guess it was beyond me. :P > The netled coming on at startup is annoying me too... I thought I'd squashed that bug. Hopefully it will die soon. > It only happens when you have dhcp selected for the eth0 device. DHCP is the default. If you select static (even > with no settings) you won't get that. The bug is mostly still there because I don't use DHCP and had my static > settings in the build for quite sometime. I *will* fix this =) Ah ... I see. I figured it had to do with it initializing eth0 and thinking it was online. Reconfigured it to static IP and no netled showing. (Counting the IA-1, I've got 4 monitors running now. Looks like a scene out of Swordfish.) > Which "suspend thing" isn't working on your rig? Pressing the power button on the IA-1 keyboard - it enters a sequence of power->net->backlight going on then off after a second. Very annoying, and I can't break it out by any means other than a 3-second reboot. > And which script did you modify? How did you modify it? code: That's about it ... same concept there but instead of entering suspend it just kills the backlight. However, it makes the "hold for 3 seconds" a seizure-inducing experience. And of course I customized the shortcut keys to my own taste: News -> Nedit Star -> Root shell Compaq -> Control Panel (thought that made more sense) Find -> Google.ca (the .com just redirects all traffic from my netblock there anyhow) Movies -> DivX Digest. :) Person -> EveryBuddy Still haven't figured out how to make the L/R keys act like they're supposed to - and no luck ridding Opera of those damned ads either. If I make a revelation I'll let you know. ;) Merc 04-01-2002 23:41:55

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile Well ... since it didn't want to let me enter my sleep script or edit it ... -- snip -- #! /bin/sh if [ ! -f /var/lock/.sleep ] ; then ia1led 6 && touch /var/lock/.sleep ; else ia1led 7 && rm /var/lock/.sleep ; fi -- snip -- There we go. That's by memory but I think it's exact. Merc 04-01-2002 23:50:28

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Ahh.. that's what you mean.. Yeah the network up/down part always bugged me with the suspend/resume stuff.. It is probabaly what most ppl want tho. I'm very happy to hear that it was so easy for you to configure to your liking. I've been planning a cgi script to handle the keys, but it would still require some 1337 skillz to edit the complex stuff. I'd like to make configuration/ease a top priority. Your script is good =) I may do something like that, but addressing the leds as well.. Thanks for the input.. I may change a few of the default key scripts . the compaq settings thing almost makes sense.. Several of the sites I just picked out of the blue to fill keys.. And I'm noticing that they "feature" alot of popups. *cough*cnn*cough* ermm.. *achoo*imdb*gesundheit* It's also good to know someone is using everybuddy.. Nedit will probably go the way of the dinosaurs once/if Java works. Peoples wives need to play games.yahoo.com more than they need to edit stuff =). And the Left/Right keys are also a pet peeve of mine... and let me say .. with out a doubt ...it's the fault of Opera... You could use the funkey scripts for left/right to send "javascript:history.back()" or ".forward()" . to NS4.x, Mozilla, Galeon, Skipstone, Whatever.. but opera won't do it.. I've even tried to emulate "mouse gestures" when the left/right keys were pressed.. Anyway, keep up the good work posting feedback.. It's hard to come by Julio P.S. If you come hang out in #ia1 on irc.openprojects.net (I'm Paperclip), you can have even more input. 04-02-2002 01:50:46

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile Julio, Yeah, I skipped over the javascript history hacks cuz I noticed you hadn't implemented Java yet. If you do give nedit the heave-ho, can you leave at least vi in there? Gotta edit somehow. Speak of the devil *cough* Opera *cough* the damned thing comes up with that "incorrect shutdown" message after every reboot. Methinks that was just a compilation error. (Also - where the f0rk is fork? :P) Keep up the good work. I'm going back to work on some more scriptage. Merc 04-02-2002 10:34:15

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Merc, Javascript works fine in Opera now. Java and Javascript are unrelated. For some odd reason it mungs it at the command line. Like .. opera "javascript:history.back()" This works in *most* modern browsers. =) But Opera always "chews off" the last ")".. Really anoying.. Rest assured that some sort of editor will be there. Probably the reason for the "shutdown errors" is that you have the browser open when you save your settings. You should close it, then "freeze" from a shell, or use the "Save Settings" on the start menu. Happy Hacking, Julio 04-02-2002 11:36:40

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile Dear LasersInTheJungle; I have successfully "hacked" my IA-1 and installed your Midori Linux image, and love it. My kids are in awe of the games, the backlight turns on and off just fine, and everything seems to work OK - except . . . I've entered all the correct info into Modem Setup (only Primary DNS as I couldn't figure out where to put the Secondary) and the modem dials and negotiates, but Opera can never find the server, as though the modem hangs up as soon as it's connected. I know the user name, password, etc. are correct, and I've used this ISP with Caldera Linux in the past so I'm sure it's not a goofy-provider issue, but I'm at a loss to know what IS wrong. Other than my out-of-the-box Caldera install I'm pretty much a newbie with Linux, so if there are any "obvious" settings I'm missing, well, they're not obvious to me. <s> On the liklihood I'm just doing something stupid, can you post "cookbook" instructions on how to connect via modem/PPP, from filling in the blanks (such as, do any of the Network settings have to be changed other than modem setup?) to whether Opera must be started before or after clicking "Connect" in the menu? Oh -- I *did* check to make sure my phone line was in the proper jack on the IA-1! Thanks a million, Clueless Newbie 04-03-2002 06:43:31

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Clueless Newbie, Only the "modem setup" needs to be used to establish a ppp connection. You may enter several DNS servers by adding a space inbetween them.. like 123.456.789.123 123.456.789.124 123.456.789.125 and so on.. There are actually two (my two isp's) DNS addresses on the machine as backup if the user doesn't enter their own. But, unfortunately, they are replaced if you do provide DNS servers. You might try reinstalling the image and leave the DNS servers blank. If that doesn't work, you may want to use the "Root Terminal" to do some debugging. After connecting from the "start" menu, about 10-15 seconds after the modem noises stop, type: ifconfig You should see two interfaces.. ppp0 and lo.. you should see the words "UP" and "RUNNING" in the block relating to ppp0. If you do then there is a ppp connection. Now, try pinging your DNS server's ip address like: ping 123.456.789.123 if you get anything you are on the net, so try this. ping yahoo.com now, if you get something you have working DNS. Let us know how it goes. I'm in the IRC channel #ia1 on the server irc.openprojects.net a lot, maybe you can join us there. Also, glad to hear that the games are a hit! Best of Luck, Julio 04-04-2002 18:31:40

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile Dear Julio; Thank you for your help. I've found why I can't log in, but can't figure out how to fix it (no doubt something stupid again). I watched more closely when entering my modem setup info, and finally noticed that the at sign (@) in my username is being "swallowed" when I save the settings -- user@domain.com becomes userdomain.com, which of course ain't kosher. Since I'm apparently the only person in the world with this problem I'm assuming it's just something I'm screwing up; any suggestions are welcome (I'm *that* close; it's driving me crazy). Thanks again, Clueless. 04-07-2002 17:33:15

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) MercenaryForHire Profile I think it's just you ... are you sure you need the @ sign in your username? In all my years of PPP dialups I've never seen anything other than A-z and 0-9 in usernames. Merc 04-08-2002 11:47:35

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile Thanks for the response, Merc. It may well be me, but every dialup account I've got asks for my username in that format. Could it be my ISP's name goes elsewhere, maybe under Network Setup? Let me ask a hypothetical: how would you enter the data for an account which Minicom and QNX' "Challenge" diskette accept as newbie@earthlink.net? From what you've said, I assume newbie would go in the userid slot in Modem Setup; would earthlink.net go on the Network page? Thanks again! Clueless (but not without hope!) 04-08-2002 12:50:10

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) wildwildwes Profile I don't think you need to specify earthlink.net anywhere other than your email client. The system you dial into ought to recognize you by username and password alone. I would try it with just the part before the @. 04-08-2002 13:30:12

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile Thanks, WWWes. If that's all it takes, I'll post my next reply from the IA-1 (and then kick myself across the room for wasting several days on such a simple thing). (-: Clueless 04-08-2002 14:47:40

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile He's BAAaack! <sigh> Earthlink shares its dialup network among several of its subsidiaries, and since it would be possible for people on two or more of its services to have the same username (bob345@earthlink, @pipeline, @netcom, etc.) they use the email address as the login name, which means the '@' is essential for connecting. I'm honestly surprised this appears to be so unusual; I recall having to use @umich.edu to get into my account years ago, and used the same format when I set up Caldera Linux some time ago. Poking around in some of the ppp-related files in Julio's Midori turns up some references to the same thing in the comments for those. I'll keep looking; I'm sure *somebody* can figure this out. NewB 04-08-2002 18:54:38

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Heh.. I see what the problem is.. and should be able to fix it.. For now you can try using single quotes.. like.. 'iamuser@mongoisp.com' Hope that Helps, Julio 04-08-2002 20:50:23

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) NewB Profile Thank you, Julio. I'm glad I finally explained it properly. (-: >> . . . try using single quotes.. like.. 'iamuser@mongoisp.com' OK, I tried that, as well as double quotes and even 'iamuser%64%mongoisp.com' but so far nothing but a-z and 0-9 makes it through. Bear in mind I really don't know anything about this -- you're the expert -- but would it perhaps be possible to set your cgi up with one more field (besides username, password, phone # and dns), the new one being for domain.tld for those who need it? That is, if the script can't accept the @ directly, could it add it between 'iamuser' and 'mongoisp.com' once those were entered by the user? Just a thought, and thanks to all for the suggestions! 04-09-2002 05:04:04

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Hmm.. I haven't had a whole lot of time to look into this. But I do know how to workaround it until the cgi can handle unusual characters. You'll need to use the root prompt, after you've entered your information in the cgi. Type.. eznet change service ppp user=iamuser@mongoisp.com Then type eznet list to verify that your info was accepted. Now the modem stuff on the "start menu" should dialup/disconnect. Good Luck, Julio 04-09-2002 11:23:38

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 1 times) NewB Profile Luck has nothing to do with it, Julio. It's all based on skill and hard work -- yours! Thanks much! This is being posted from my IA-1. (-: 04-09-2002 15:55:16

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) RatBastard Profile Can I infer from the above traffic, that you got the backlight to have an inactivity timeout sort of behavior? If so, can you post how or the files (I've got my own image I'm working on, and that's something that I want to do). Thanks. 04-10-2002 13:00:41

RE:PPP image available (again) (modified 0 times) LasersInTheJungle Profile Rat Bastard, Sorry, there is not that funtionality in this image. However, I do belive you could add it with the program idled. http://www.darkwing.com/idled/ It seems to be geard toward logging users out of X and console sessions if they are idle too long. You could most likely get it to run a "sleep" or "suspend" script. Happy Hacking, Julio 04-10-2002 15:22:43

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