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BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA

New MessageBeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) theedge
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Has anyone created a decent Image for a 340MB Microdrive with BeOS Pro 5\5.1?

I have come in contact with the DANO image, haven't installed it yet though.

I know the BeIA image exsists for the 16MB flash but has anyone investigated getting DANO up on roomy Microdrive.

As well how many people are interested in BeOS/BeIA here? I see this as the perfect OS for this device.

Can we try to work up more of an intrest for this and maybe we can get even more work done on this.

I know that KingKaj and Christ3D show intrest in Be as well.

I think it would be great to have small footprint flash/embedded images as well as larger more functional images with updates and more hardware support and would be interested in working with both.

Let me know what you all think.

Mike

05-16-2002 17:13:05

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) haiqu
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I'm in on this vein of research, totally.

FYI, BeIA needs to be installed on top of a straight version of BeOS 5.0.3 and versions with the newer networking layer (BONE) will NOT work with it.

I have 5.0.3 + BeIA on one partition, and 5.1/Dano on another, and they need to be kept separate. The BeIA Dev Kit found it's way onto the internet right from installation, so it's fairly good.

05-16-2002 18:10:46

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) theedge
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As a sidenote, how did you burn the ISO for 5.1/DANO? It shows an an audio track for me and will not load after the Boot Disk.

I havn't run BeIA on the Desktop yey, I finally got around to removing my old R4.5 install and now I have a spare partition waiting for 5.1/DANO alongside my 5.0.3 pro partition.

With my Microdrive I am looking to do some BeIA development on the IA-1 off the MD, compile it, slap it onto a 20MB dos partition with dolly and flash it internally on the sandisk for realtime testing.

What size storage media are you using? How big can the dist be for you? 16MB may not be enough for later on as apps crop up.

05-16-2002 18:46:28

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) haiqu
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As I recall (it was months ago now) I burned it on Win2k using the Adaptec software that came with my CR-RW drive.

I'll be getting a 32Mb CF for development, but will be limiting images made to 16Mb for general use, since standard IA-1's only have this much internally.

haiqu

05-16-2002 20:31:02

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 1 times) Coward
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This is something I want to look at soon.
But, why bother with BeIA, if you were to do this, just use Dano or r5 pro and use Mozilla (actually get strip zilla)
I got a DT300 webtablet, its an ex demo/test unit from the Be sale(has a working BeIA install), and I found it has laptop ide pins onboard, so will look at trying that soon.

Theres a smalling thread on begroovy about stripping BeOS down, and you can get it quite small.
I think a standard BeOS r5 install (no extras) is only 150MB or so.

Haiqu, the Clipper came with a 32MB card, so why limit yourself to 16MB???

05-17-2002 02:16:58

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) haiqu
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It's entirely possible to run a full BeOS 5 on the thing with a large enough CF module, sure. But I'm already running it elsewhere and have more of an interest in embedded O/Ses right now. I also wonder about the sanity of turning what's essentially a self-contained high-band browsing station into yet another PC by adding on HDD's, bigger processors, fans like so many people seem to do.

I've tried loading a 32MB image via the reflash utility, and it stopped at 22,586 kbytes with an "out-of-memory" error. This says to me that to load the full 32Mb one would have to clobber the BeIA 1.0 monitoring program, possibly leaving it unable to be recovered without manually reflashing the Disk-on-Chip. A BeIA image of about 20Mb can be easily made by taking the standard Desktop tree from the BeIA 2.5 Dev Kit and removing only the GNU tool directories.

I'm still trying to figure why the image made with those tools isn't recongised, it may need to be in some other format, like an ISO image. Beats me, but I've only had it a couple of days.

haiqu

05-17-2002 19:37:07

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) theedge
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I would like to get my Microdrive up and running with 5.1/DANO but I am also interested in the BeIA and embedded OS's.

Specificly BeIA. That is why I plan to do the Deving on my Microdrive and then dumping the results on the internal flash.

I am still trying to get ahold of a clipper.

But in the meantime an IA-1 will work.

05-17-2002 19:58:45

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 1 times) Coward
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to make an imgae fit on a cf card, you dont specify the cf size, you go slightly lower.
a 16MB cf would be 15.5MB and 30MB for a 32MB cf card.
If you already have a working IMG, then you dont need to use fla####. just do the DD command to trasnfer it over.(all the info ya need is in the documents foler in the home dir)
I have said this before, but no one listens :P the devkit contains general builds,they are not geared to any particular type of appliance.

You need to use Fla#### to compress the img, remember BeIA uses CFS(compressed file system) not bfs.
then you use the DD command (unless your using a pcmcia adapter) to dump the image to a cf card.
I recommend using Dano for doing this (yes I know wagner dont work, too bad)
As Dano has built in drivers for the Sandisk SDDR-31 cf reader, and its rocks compared to using a pcmcia adapter (i know coz i used to do it that way, and got the #### and nought the sandisk unit)

05-18-2002 00:28:25

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) haiqu
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You don't actually have to use Fla#### (just love the way this BBS software edited your "rude" message, Coward!).

There's a script called create_disk_image that also works and allows fine control of output parameters, such as size and location of the file.

haiqu

05-21-2002 18:19:35

New MessageRE:BeOS5/5.1 and BeIA (modified 0 times) Coward
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Yeah I know, what is important though, is that you specify a size slightly smaller than the actual cf card.
when I was making an img for my dt300, i couldn't use 32MB or 31MB, had to use 30MB.

and 16MB cf cards use a 15.5MB img

05-21-2002 22:03:34

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