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vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Ok, I'd like to start off with the fact that there are a few different type's of emachines. The one I'm looking at was shut down last year but the units are being sold very very cheep! http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/product.asp?sku=EZNET+200&dept_id=14 This place has been selling them cheep, I got mine for about $25. The contence of the unit are very basic. 200mhz x86 geode processor, 32megs ram ONBOARD solder pads for an upgrade sodimm socket, onboard hardware conexant serial 56k modem (internal), onboard 16meg sandisk, award bios (enter with F2 at bootup), the back of the unit has a speaker out, vga connector DB15 CONNECTOR (RES? UPTO 1024X768 ?), 2 USB PORTS BOOTABLE OFF OF BOOTABLE DEVICES. There are lots of options for upgrades to this unit with lots of empty solder pads. But of all things the one thing I'd like to find is the ablity to add IDE, there is a person who has added an IDE header to this unit in an other posting. But its hard to find due to the jumble of different type's of emachines being talked about in different postings about different type of units. The main IO chip is a standerd IO chip which supports parallel, ide, floppy, IRDA, ECT!!! YOU NAME IT. The thing is is that most of the components are NOT implimented, but could be introduced via test points which are all over the back of the board. I think these are a little more intresting then the IA-1's that and I have not been able to get ahold of one, but I'v never tryed ether. Didnt realy intrest me as much as this unit does. Reason being is the design, this unit could become any thing from a wirless MP3 unit to hook upto a set of speakers. To a very very nice little linux terminal, the sky is the limate. Besides seeing as how a hard drive has been added to the unit by someone. this unit could do ANY THING. The unit came with only a few things, a USB logitec mouse (VERY NICE MOUSE) and a custom keyboard minus a lot of keys and for the most part (USELESS). it also came with a small power cube that outputs 14v 2.4amps. From what I can tell this small power brick is over powerd for what the device even uses, but I'v hurd some stories of people not being able to boot with certian USB devices with out a powerd USB hub?? As far as adding a hard drive and other INTNERAL io, I dont see any power problems. Printed in white there is a lot of info on the mother board but one thing that cought my eye was info about setting multiplyers and frequences? maby this unit is overclockable. a 200mhz processor clocked at ? any thing over 200 would be a nice improvment, even if its only to 225-250mhz. I have yet to find the areas for changing these settings. IMO the first mod to this unit MUST COME in the form of adding a power switch, ether soft or hard. a hardware switch is easy, lift one end of the board's FUSE (white) near where you plug the PSU into the unit and add a switch (non momentary). a very easy and obvous hack is to add what I believe is a line in hack, (mic) to the unit. There is an identical hole set that matches the head phone jack in the back just below. Welp that's my starting point lets see where this post leads to, SARRY about spelling. 12-20-2002 14:24:10

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email correction the power supply outputs 15v at 2.4amps not 14volts 12-20-2002 15:12:49

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile What is VESTEL? 12-21-2002 11:23:36

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email its part of the name of an internet device. look at the link if you want to see what one looks like. or search for it on the net. 12-21-2002 12:18:39

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile I know what an eMachine MSN companion looks like. Where does VESTEL come into the picture? Please provide link which talks about Vestel. Thank You. 12-21-2002 14:22:07

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile I seem to recall that Vestel was the eastern European (or was it Turkish?) company that was building these so inexpensively for E-Machines and the European markets. 12-21-2002 18:59:14

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email they are who built them, but its hard to find any info about them any more aside from just written documents. these devices are kind of old and UN-tuched by the hacker comunity for the most part. speaking of I'v got some new informaion, I'v got a copy of the PDF file for both the SUPER IO chip and the sandisk. So finding the IDE pinout which HAS been done befor is not going to be to hard, ASIDE from the HANDS ON WORK. Intrested drop me a line. 12-21-2002 19:18:14

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile I still don't get where you learned that the eMachines MSN companion is built by VESTEL? Can't you give me a link??? I check the 317 SIO pdf, and I don't see any hard drive interface there... Regards. 12-22-2002 15:34:26

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile well, it goes WAAAAAAY back to when e-machines was still selling fairly cr*ppy PCs with woefully inadequate power supplies, built by other people. there were some press releases when the Compaq IA-1 was announced for MSN, describing how e-machines would have a less expensive version of the device, since they had it manufactured overseas by Vestel. i wouldn't be terribly surprised if both e-machines and vestel intentionally pulled every last reference of this thing from their websites. Lonny Paul at Tiger Direct was trying to obtain a huge lot of these devices for close-out sale (really long time ago) but the deal fell through when the devices were withdrawn from the market. keith721 12-22-2002 17:45:46

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile here's a link to the old thread from lonny: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=MSNCompanion&Post=17&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=12&Session=keith721.104060381948242 12-22-2002 17:50:17

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email just a small update to what we know about the devices already, but you can set the video memory upto 4megs, SMA (SHARED MEMORY ARCHIVICHUR). What we need currently are some techy guys who are better then I am to figur out some of the hardware to this thing. I'v got the PDF files on the super I/O chip, and the sandisk. I'v yet to aquire the PDF file on the AGP controler chip, that chip also harvers the video, sound, and a few other functions. One mod I'd like to put into this system is to remove the MSN sticker in the front and replace is with an IRDA window for I/O and remote control. The area where the MSN sticker is, is a great PRE-FAB. for an irda window already. 12-22-2002 21:14:12

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile Hey Keith721: Again, no link to where VESTEL comes in. Yeah, I've been following the emachine EZNET for over a year now too. I was just trying to find out where the VESTEL link comes from, since mp3boombox seems to be sure they are made from VESTEL (and I am NOT saying they are NOT, I just wanted to see if there were something somewhere that says they ARE made by VESTEL). Thanks. 12-22-2002 21:26:14

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email An other update, a $99 external USB device from circuit city works on the devices. Meaning its a BOOTABLE usb device that is very flexable. Its the "USB 2.0 DRIVE KIT", go to http://www.circuitcity.com and search for this "USBSX804B". The thing I'v noticed is it may be possable to hook up 2 IDE devices? I tryed just for shid's and giggles, and the thing that was wierd is that well. Though I have yet to get a hard drive setup to be bootable. I could set from the bios to boot from either USB-HD or USB-CD and while both IDE cdrom and hard drive where hooked upto the little external usb device. Both at the same time I could access either one (one at a time) of the devices via the bios setting. I'm asuming that with the windows bridge drivers loaded for the device. It may/should/with any luck show BOTH devices. If this is the case HELLO slimline cdrom and laptop hard drive!! Just a reminder to boot from an external device you must jumper the single jumper on the inside of the case. Its at the bottem of the unit near the middle. There is a timing isue with some usb bootable devices but regardless this jumper MUST BE jumperd. Jumper it and forget about it's very existence. Please give up on trying to figur out where the device came from, It doesnt mater at this point because its been burried very deep. That is the company that made them, they will not give any info on the units I'v tryed already. If your looking for a web page about them you WILL NOT FIND IT GIVE UP!!! I sent a few emails and the replys I got where of little help other then its an old unsupported device which they will not support any longer PERIOD END OF STORY. Hacking the unit is a little more intresting then finding a little webpage that tells us less then what is already known. Just a reminder YOU WILL NOT FIND A LINK TO THESE DEVICES from ANY MAJOR company which produced or sold the devices. They have been ereased, eradicated and forgoten. So please dont post any more post's asking for a link to the device, cause a link wont exist until one of us puts up a link on the unit. The only thing left from the vestal site about the units is an agreement statement from MSN and vestal to produce the units in 2k. Thats it, though I'v noticed that a few pages that did exist are now gone from the vestal website. I'm asuming from just luck of the draw in finding them the system admistraters saw the access and removed the pages. heh a little late after 2 years!! any one have any new hacks to these devices???? 12-24-2002 21:27:44

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile hwhack: it's a long shot, but you might send a private e-mail message to Lonny Paul at this location: mailto:me@lonnypaul.com he's sometimes saved older documents and web pages on his favorite devices, and might have saved some information that is no longer available. also, since he was attempting to purchase a lot of these, he may know more about the Vestel manufacturing connection. good luck, but i don't think you'll find much information publicly available. every single corporation (3Com, Sony, Compaq, HP, Dell, Gateway) that developed any kind of low cost internet appliance device discontinued the products and quickly distanced themselves from any support of them. keith721 12-25-2002 09:09:51

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Welp I dont know whats causing my problem right now. But I cant seem to get the system to boot from a hard drive? I know the drives I'v tryed are bootable and active, verified with Ranish partition program. But I have had no problems booting from a CDROM with the usb device. I have noticed HD led activity when trying to boot from a hard drive so I'm asuming the system doesnt like the bootloader (been using MSDOS as my boot shell). When I get a copy of red hat 8 I'll try some other things also just an update. from this site http://www.boomspeed.com/darkehorse/PC/DOS/Drivers/USB/index.shtml there is a thing called Cypress USB Mass Storage Driver. Its a DOS usb bus driver witch has a lot of options, I have not tryed it yet but it may work. I dont have a link right now but an other thing I'v been looking at, but have yet to download is a linux based embeded image which you burn to a cd and it runs OFF the cd alone. its a bootable cd which is a complete linux distro that boots and runs off the cd. !?!?!? hummm!! Any suggestion's? 12-25-2002 11:05:40

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email welp, just an other update. I added a sodimm socket, but not suprisingly there are missing components (i.e. caps and resisters) which are required for add on memory to work. I also got 3 rips of the sandisk. One with dolly, one with ghost, and one is an XCOPY32 of the 2 partitions on the sandisk, of the wince OS. Odd but the wince is writen to the disk using fat12 in standerd DOS PARTITIONS. A primary and extended partition. Now that that is all said and done, my next step is to get some kind of linux setup. Working on a setup which will boot from an embeded image loaded on the sandisk, and have general read/write and as well as the rest of the boot processes from a usb hard drive. My question is how to install this kind of a setup? 12-29-2002 00:47:55

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I'll have a website up soon with info on the devices and pictures! 12-30-2002 18:12:03

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Last night I finaly got the device to do what I wanted. I know have working copys of THE SANDISK OS. both in ghost and dolly format. I'v also got a riped copy of the bios. The system right now is booting to DOS with a dos prompt just fine. I'll be working on getting some kind of a LINUX OR BSD distro loaded onto the device in the near future. I'm also about a therd of the way to having all the solder points on back of the board mapped out to add an IDE drive. This device only supports 2 IDE devices period (one channel) so the sandisk and an other ide device. Or disabling the sandisk and having 2 IDE devices on the device are the only opitons. I'v know got the PS2 mouse port mapped out for solder points and am working on a few other solder points. The big problem with teh device. Is there is not a lot of room in the back to add ports. Of al hacks to add to this device I think the coolest to add would be a compack flash adapter. It only requires basic pci interface. I know of a person who has made a proxi out of his using only the onboard flash disk and BSD. Silent but usful. 12-30-2002 18:25:26

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I now have the VERY VERY startings OF A WEBPAGE UP. But I'v only got 5megs to play with. 12-31-2002 15:06:42

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I now have the VERY VERY startings OF A WEBPAGE UP. But I'v only got 5megs to play with. http://members.panax.com/bachh/ 12-31-2002 15:07:06

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) TaurusGuy Profile | Email I can help with web space and design if you want. I've been planning on recreating my site for this little bugger (I had the first and only one back about a year ago, but lost my hosting), and it would be easier for everyone to have one site and not two. Space is not a problem, especially if you want to host images for the DOC. Give me an e-mail at hpviper@tconl.com if you feel so inclined. 01-01-2003 09:10:15

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email A major update, I now know what all but 2 connectors on the eznet are. In the front by the audio connector for the speaker. the ajasent empty connector is for sound as well. The 5pin header behind it is 1 of two things. either its a connector for running wires to sound jacks off board, or its volume control via a dual volume rotory resister. the 5 pin header in the back next to the speaker jack is the exact same thing as the 5 conductor in the front. the empty header below the speaker jack in the back IS a MIC conector. Its minus 2 or 3 parts. All missing parts are resisters, (the resister value should be a resister that has a SINGLE zero on it). The big 6 conductor header at the bottem of the board under the big controler chip I'm about 90% shure its a BATTERY interface. REGARDLESS ITS A POWER SOMETHING interface. Reason being is that its got Some major traces for power and a few minor one's. Plus its connected straight to a hex inverting chip, and its straight connected to the dual step down voltage regulator which is the PSU to the entire board. At present this device will not work with APM due to the lac of some circitry for IO to the mother board. RUNNING off a battery? maby but reading power levels ect.. NO. A big plus!! I'v found the resisters for changing the multiplyer of the processor! They are located right inline with the step down psu chip (LM2641M) on the back of the board at the bottem. they are resisters r318, r319, r320 all sitting next to each other. The system is CURRENTLY SET at 6x33mhz. YES I THINK I CAN 100% CONFERM THIS SYSTEM HAS A 33MHZ FSB (WTF!!!). To follow the chart for the multiplyers on the other side of the board. A SHORT via a jumper or zero ohm resister equals 0 so 1-0-1=6x acording to the chart. Changing this to 1-1-0 (r318, r319, r320 )would yeild 7x . It will be possable to change the fsb between 33 and 30mhz. But that will require a hardware mod to the clock chip (MX149106). From what I'v found the system doesnt do SOFT clock as far as the front side bus goes. If its possable to find a clock chip that can be swapped out. It may be possable to give this system a 66-100mhz FSB. I dont know what the processor can support UPTO for FSB AND multiplyers as is. But I'd put money on it going upto AT LEAST!!!!!!!! 233MHZ EASLY. THIS PROCESSOR runs on such low power it may require a voltage increase from 2.2v to 2.5v to go to 233 or above. Or it may be like the moble k6-2/3+ processors which will OC 50+mhz like NOTHING! As is under heavy load the processor is just realy worm to the touch. I'm prity shuyre active cooling would be a request for over clocoking beyond what its at. Or a realy big heat synk. I have tracked down the CPU PSU so i have a half idear on how to change the voltage. The PSU power supply comes from the lm2631 on the back side of the board. Changing the power, I'm about 80% shure is done by changing the values of r270=(R1) and r273=(R2) VOUT = VREF(1 + R1/R2) where VREF = 1.238V I'm not 100% shure of which is which, as far as R1 AND R2 is concerned. Wow I feel smart all of a sudden. One thing I can say about this system though. Once the missing parts for the sodim adapter are located, (resisters and caps) The only way to acheave the MAX amount of memory these systems can take (256megs sodimm) will be to remove the solderd on memory. Unless you know where to buy a sodimm modual which is 224megs. 256-32=224 If any one can help with the hacking on this system, I'd love all the help I can get as far as hardware goes. Something else I'll post later on is HOW to add a PS/2 mouse to the ps2 adapter in the back. then using a Y splitter to get KB/MOUSE. Save a usb port. 01-01-2003 15:23:05

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FIGURED OUT HOW TO BOOT FROM A USB HARD DRIVE!!!! I'M LOADING WINDOWS ON A FAT32 PARTITION RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!! I'LL GIVE A POST ON EXACTLY WHAT TO DO LATER ON AND IF IT WORKED!! BUT TO BOOT FROM A USB HARD DRIVE PEIROD YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPEICAL USB DRIVER SETUP ON A DOS PARTITOIN ON THE SANDISK. NO BUTS......!!! 01-01-2003 17:32:17

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 1 times) TaurusGuy Profile | Email eMachines MSN Companion Information Resource NOW OPEN! http://www.mbmd2002.com/emsn/ Not loads of Content as of right now, but has good board scans. Will be adding lots of content within the next few days. If you have any content to submit, send it to hpviper@tconl.com with the subject line containing EMSN Information. 01-02-2003 11:57:09

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) radarman Profile A previous poster pointed out the Geode's on these are running at 33MHz FSB x6. Keep in mind, these are running with no active cooling, and the Geode CPU has a native, on board, PCI controller as well as DRAM controller. (which is why they aren't pin compatable with other socket7 CPU's - and yes, I know these are BGA's, not SPGA's) As far as I know, all Geodes are clocked at 33MHz FSB for this reason. Memory speeds are actually higher, usually 2x FSB - so standard (at the time) PC66/100 memory could be used. Needless to say, Geodes are very dependent on a 33MHz sysclock. A *lot* of their internal goodies will go out of spec if you mess with this. check out http://www.national.com/pf/GX/GX1.html for a comparable datasheet. Note that the GXLV is functionally identical to the GX1 (and the discontinued GXm) - it simply runs at a lower voltage, and thus, generates less heat. This is why they can operate at 266MHz with little or no cooling. Even so, I would check the external temperature if you plan to overclock this part. You may have to find a way to passively or actively cool the part at higher speeds. 01-02-2003 17:39:00

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email HOW SWEET IT IS!! ok, an other fun loving update for the eznet's. I got the bios flashed with the only working program I have found so far that will flash these systems. The program is on my WEB PAGE under bios. I'v also got a modded bios which just has a few things enabled and AND that anoying emachine boot logo removed! just a reminder to enter the bios its F2 not ctrl+alt+esc like it says on the boot screen? http://members.panax.com/bachh/ 01-05-2003 17:58:26

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile mp3boombox, fyi, the ps/2 mouse mod you suggested to me works - but backwards! The splitter works if the keyboard is attached to the mouse plug, and the mouse works when attached to the keyboard plug. Thanks! 01-07-2003 19:12:52

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I had a feeling that it would be like that. The reason I knew the mod would work is because you can straight plug a mouse into the port on the back and you get a working mouse. hence a splitter, due to the keyboard and mouse each needing 4 conductors. Both sharing a +v5 and both sharing ground, then that leaves 2 more pins each. a CLOCK one for keyboard and one for mouse. And a data line one for keyboard and one for mouse. If I'm lucky I'll have the ide mod finished, but I'm getting close to having a LOT of the IDE wires mapped out to traces on the back of the obard. This means soldering like 36? i forget exactly how many but around that many IDE wires to points. Thus giving us A NICE UDMA-33 ide interface. Though I have yet to find it yet, there is a resister or something somewhres I'm hopping which goes to pin 23 on the sandisk controler chip. Either by riasing this pin or removing a resister if found, to open the circut will make the sandisk slave. Leaving your hard drive as MASTER GOOD YAAA. That makes formatting when booting from a USB device easy for making a bootable and set active drive. No ranish partition needed. I have a friend making a scan of the mother board later on so i can lable all the test points. Though it will have to go on an eznet 200 page OTHER then mine because the scan will be quite large. Lableing 30 some odd pins wont be easy. I'd take a scan of my board but its all scratched up to do trace tracing. Has any one tryed over clocking there geodos, also have any of you tryed the updated bios to get rid of the emachine boot logo? I have yet to try over clocking just cause I'm to lazy to move ONE resister. Or add a jumper/dipswitch setup. If i where one of you guys, I'd remove the one resister, and take a ata-66+ cable cut off the plastic adapter ends. Then you'd have very fine wire. step two, take 3 strands still stuck togeather and remove it from the rest of the ribbon cable. now take a SINGLE strand and remove it from the cable. seperate the ends about a GOOD inch, on the 3 strand cable and then expose the wire. tin them and connect them to either a jumper or a dipswitch (suggest flat smt dip switch like used in the iopeners). On the other end solder them to the three closesed solder pads, that are closest to the text stating what resister number they are. the further away one are ALL ground. Now take that last wire and tap it accrossed all of the apossing side of what ever you use for a jumper or dip switch. This will alow a closed circut. Lastly solder this single strand to ANY ground. FYI, make shure you remove the resister. Ease of over clocking any one? Oh ya almost forgot, Ouch heart burn. 01-08-2003 17:28:53

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) TaurusGuy Profile | Email I scanned my board, as seen on http://www.mbmd2002.com/emsn/ is that large enough detail? If so, use away! 01-08-2003 17:46:41

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I finished my over clocking MOD, and the results are in, these things run at 300mhz fine but HOT. I have not done a HELL bench mark yet or any thing cause I still need to get a hard drive setup, speaking of which I'll post the pinouts befor try them becasue I have to order a HARD DRIVE cable with 2mm ribbon cable, from http://www.badflash.com/ . I at present do not have one. I do but its WAY WAY to short. maby I'll test with it?? but as far as over clocking goes 9x works with no voltage increase. I'll be trialing a dos 3d bench mark I have which runs FAST on a p75, but at defalt clock of 200mhz it was less then desirable on the emachine. 4fps good sound. 233mhz, 266mhz, and 300mhz should wield better results. Not to mention making some kind of a box, node, ? mp3 what ever out of it. increasing the clock by 1/3, but rember I have not done any stabelity test's at speeds above 233 yet. Also TaurusGuy a guy named fiero_masta made me a 6meg scan which is about 600 res. Had to be that big if i put the numbers on an image of all the solder points for adding IDE. Though I'll be making a copy of just the lower corner near the sandisk, even that will wind up being a 1meg image. With any luck and free time by SAT/SUN. I'll post the info though it depends cause I'm cought between a rock and a hard place right now. Bad buy on a truck, and i cant drive it and i cant get rid of it. And its sitting at the machanics. sigh..... If you would like to try the little 3d app, its based on DOS and is called PDM97, and is located on my site. To hear the sound you do not need to have any drivers loaded just know your sound cards settings that are set in the bios. for example mine are irq5, 220 and something else?? The program will ask for input, give it what it wants and you get sound. Taurusguy if you are intrested in this scan let me know, because if you dont have space limets like I do well you get the idear. Same goes for the IDE solder point pin out when done. http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 01-09-2003 18:38:50

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I have finished my testing and conclude the following. The emachines I believe will run at 300mhz JUST fine with no extra cooling then what comes with the systems as is. But I find instiblety at this clock rate. Though befor the program quit on me, i started to notice graphic defects but during the entire duration of the trial at 300mhz. I hurd some sound blips that where quick and short. As for labling graphic problems, DOTs, and lines are related to the GPU. And bad shapes or abnormal images (color look ect..) are caused by processor problems, from being over clocked. I believe the instiblety is DUE to being under powered, and not so much from the heat. Why? the processor's temp. only increased by about 30F from room temp (300mhz cpu). Room temp is kept at 60F. The frame rate at 300mhz is very nice, around 16fps using the PDM97 program. If increasing the processor voltage from 2.2v to 2.5v doesnt fix the instablity, then it must be heat. From the tests, at 266mhz the video ran around 12fps. 266mhz is ROCK SOLID and heat disapation is not even noticable. It is my opinnion that running the system at 200 or 233 mhz is a wast of processing power, run the system at 266mhz until the exact 266mhz limate is under stood. HEAT OR POWER??? ITS BUT ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH. In the long run more likly both but power above all. Ohya I also choose power because its based on a cyrix processor so hehe there is some insentive right there. In windows or OPEN os's the system may prove to be faster because it does have MMX i believe and maby some other power features only used in the proper envirnment. 01-09-2003 20:54:03

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) TaurusGuy Profile | Email Yea, I'd be real interested in the scan and pinout. No problem hosting, so just let me know. hpviper@tconl.com 01-09-2003 21:06:23

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile regarding processor speed, resistor packs, and heat - - this is essentially the same CPU used in the Ergo Audrey. you can probably refer to the pictures and descriptions at http://www.audreyhacking.com for confirmation of details. consider that the '85C' silkscreened on the CPU may refer to its highest stable operating temp. regarding the SanDisk IDE hack - - i believe the CS5530 chip provides all of the IDE control signals, and you should be able to trace the publicly documented 5530 lines to the SanDisk chip. hope this helps - - happy hacking . . . keith721 01-12-2003 10:38:18

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email heh its all ready been done by me. I'm uploading the PRE-FINAL image to my web site tonight 1/13/03 it will also be hosted at TaurusGuys site as well WHEN TESTED (about a 1meg JPEG file). I'm just waiting on a friend to TEST my pinout sheet. There are only a few lines which I CAN NOT FIND. Meaning ONE will have to come from the front of the board from the sandisk controller chip. VERY VERY EASY ONE, pin 50 which is an end pin, IDE wise PIN 34 "PDIAG". Now the other pin CAN NOT be found unless the south bridge chip is removed. This is because the sandisk controller chip doesn’t use that line. The pin is the one which helps handle UDMA-33. basically with out pin 27 from IDE "IORDY". your left to run the system at PIO MODE 0 OR 1. This pin comes from CS5530A south bridge chip, PIN AD,25. I'm 99% shore it comes out to a test point but hehehe i haven’t a clue what one. any one got a DEAD eznet they'd line to offer to the GODS of hacking. I'm also going to be posting a lot of other info on my site, about how to do some other hacks. Now because I'm a stupid sum of a gun, that’s horrid at making web pages. I don’t know how to add a web counter. I'm interested in finding out how many people really check out my page. also if any of you guys have done any of the mod's Iv posted so far???? When i get around to it there are a few things I'm looking at adding to my eznet. I'm thinking of adding an IRDA adapter? why not. I don’t see any need for a game port, considering how WEAK these things are. Something that would make this SYSTEM explode with capabilities would be the addition of USB 2.0 . Basically trace out the required pci lines for the simplest smallest usb 2.0 expansion card. wire it to one of the ports already there. And BOOM, 35megs a second DATA IO. ? File server, high speed internet? ultimate ability to burn CD’s at any speed! HARD DRIVE permitting. The other thing which is plaguing me, is the missing parts to make the sodimm socket work. Basically no more then 15 resist/caps to make it work. Making this a linux or BSD box with 256megs of sodimm ram is my ultimate goal. 01-13-2003 17:41:35

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Ok, this is the deal!!! The image I’m going to give to you guys IS NOT TESTED NORE ACCURATE DO NOT TRY IT. I WILL ONLY CERTIFY IT BEING AROUND 90% ACURATE. THIS IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR GOING TO BE DOING!! THERE ARE A FEW PINS MISSING, NOT TO MENTION IT DOESNT TELL WHERE TO GO FOR POWER AND WHAT IS THE CORRECT DIGITAL GROUND. I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONCABLE IF YOU GUYS TRY THIS! THAT AND I HAVENT TRIED IT YET EITHER. REMBER A FRIEND IS DOUBLE CHECKING MY WORK THIS WEEK. I SHOULD HAVE TESTED IT BY SATERDAY AT THE END OF THIS WEEK. view but DO NOT TRY THE SOLDER JOB!!!!!!! http://members.panax.com/bachh/images/idepinot.jpg all of the numbers are the IDE WIRE'S going to a hard drive. Rember this image is MISSING 2 major IDE IO pins. One goes to the controler chip the other is a MIA at present. and there is NO power or ground info. 01-13-2003 18:43:45

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I'll be updatting that image later tonight with extra info on my web page. The HD mod has NOT been tested yet by me but all pins HAVE been tested. The CURRENT IMAGE IS WORNG ADN WILL BE UPDATED. there are 3 points which are in the worng spots. all info will be posted on HOW to connect an IDE hard drive by thr. but AGAIN its untested. there will also be one pin at present whitch must come from the top of the board. one of the last pins on the sandisk. that makes life easy :) 01-14-2003 17:44:33

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email ok here is the deal. I'm working on getting the page put togeather with all of the info on how to add an IDE drive. The info is accurate, but its untested by me. this is as always at your own risk if you try my mod's. The image posted in the above link is now correct. But its only part of the mod. Basicly you guys are going to have wires running all over the place. one to the front of the board. maby 2 at a later date???? and a few strewn about the board. Also an other little tidbit!! I have found a FAN BUS. By the sandisk controler there is a solder pad called J2, ITS MISSING one resister whitch may or may not be important. But its a true working fan-bus with RPM counter. If the resister is added, it I would asume to be a 10ohm to 330ohm resister??? any comments?? I'll have info posted on the pinout on my page by the end of the week. Again I'v not tested any of this stuff. Come to think of it the only things I'v even tested are over clocking, and botting things and flashing the bios. other wise its all been research. :) aahh a hackers life. Just rember If you can endure my spelling and grammer skills. You'll enjoy a pleasent reward in your hacking efferts by my aid :). http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 01-15-2003 16:42:03

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email The IDE hack has been posted on my page under hardware. ENJOY. 01-17-2003 19:50:47

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Well I'm working on some more hacks. I'll post what I believe would be the best location for a hard drive ALSO, I'v removed the speaker front the front of the system. and in its place I'm adding a 1"x1" micro fan. this will pull cool air in and be connected to the fan connector right next to it. I'll have pictures later. 01-19-2003 20:20:44

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Well I'v made a half hearted attempt at the IDE mod. So far I'v set the sandisk as drive D or slave. This is acheaved by raising PIN 23 on the sandisk controler chip. NOT EASY!!! I almost screwd up the chip doing this mod. Basicly you have to take a needel and a needel point soldering iron. Basicly you have to apply heat while trying to rais the pin. If you try this mod DO NOT APPLY ANY PRESSURE WITH THE PIN until you add heat. I bent one of the pins next to pin 23. More like twisted it, but i did fix the pin. If any one can find the trace that goes to this pin, I'd love to hear from you on this post. Has any one tryed doing any major linux or bsd setup's? There are a few people I know of that are working on a sandisk image that boots with just enuff software to load a usb disk drive for read write access and the rest of the OS. Also any one got a rench? the POS truck i got has both a bad back and front axel (chipped teeth and just DEAD), and a bad tranny and a crack in the fram, and 2 bad shocks, and a bad barring set on one of the wheels, and the motor is junk. Its funny how good a truck looks at night under a flash light when thinking about buying it. ? coudnt find a thing worng with it then!! Good ting the bill of sale said "AS IS". Or i might have been able to get my $3,200 back. 01-20-2003 21:42:00

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I had a cool idear for the fan. I do not know if there are any heat sensors on the board. But I may remove one of the LED'S ? or maby not but I may tap the line to control an other transister to make it so i can have an ON/OFF software control of the fan Iv put on the front of the case. That would make a NICE little hack. The only prob is that I dont know how to control the LED'S yet? Not till I do my own IDE hack, also does any one have a disk on chip chip? its a 32pin device and according to an other post the 32pin socket next to the bios is a working disk on chip socket. that means the easy way to ad a MUCH larger flash disk to the system. With almost NO EFFERT!!!! any comments on that? 01-24-2003 15:29:13

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I did a little bit of research on the board and from what Iv traced. The leds are controled by the parallel port from the super I/O chip. Oh ya i'll be posting info on how to add a HD led. This will give you both ide vis of the sandisk and an other IDE device when the hack is compleat and confermed. a hd led will be nothing more then an LED and a resister between pin 39? i forget have to double check and one other point on the board. 01-27-2003 08:33:50

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email If any one has or knows someone with a DEAD eznet board. Please let me know, a dead board is vital to the hacking of the systems. 01-27-2003 09:31:56

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Has any one discoverd any thermisters on the board? maby under the processor? Would be intresting if this system has a processor temp sensor. 02-05-2003 18:50:09

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email For the rate at witch I'm getting hits on my page no one has any input? 02-05-2003 18:52:12

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email There is a new BBS page for the EZNET 200. Nothing there yet but its there on the main bbs page. 02-05-2003 19:19:36

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email my oops, they are for systems other then the eznet 200 emachine. 02-06-2003 20:42:51

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I'll have some new updates posted shortly. I'v just been busy doing a lot of laptop repair for a local computer shop. :) guy has to get easy store credit $$$ some how :)!! Also has any one done any kind of work on these systems? I'v gotten 700hits already and little input. I'v noticed that the sale of these systems has picked up a bit on ebay as well. 02-19-2003 20:22:14

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email any one looking for my web page, it will be back up when my ISP finishes upgrading there servers. also some new's The processor WILL OVER HEAT UNLESS IT HAS ACTIVE COOLING AT ANY THING PAST 233MHZ CLOCK!!! The GXLV processor and its little problem Ok to start off and make it simple. Iv caught wind that people have been turned off about the abilities of the processor. Basically just because they ran that dos 3d app, and claming well the system is to slow and isn't worth but a stink pickle. WELL LET ME TELL YOU! the processor IS no slouch, but due to my lack of informing about the processor. Assumptions where made and you know the golden rule about those things. Well here is why it runs slow, and its very easy to explain. The processor is based on a CYRIX chip. And what do we all know about Cyrix processors?? three words/letters. FPU (float point unit). That dos 3d program uses the float point unit to the full extent! That's why you see such a small difference when overclocking the eznets and trying that 3d app. running the system at 266mhz I was running an old DOS game known as raptor. This is an old arcade style shooting game which runs just fine and dandy. I even had the patch which makes it play mp3's for music instead of the default midi music. There is no limit on processing power when it comes to MP3'S either, plus the processor has MMX. So for those who feel the system is an under powered piece of junk :). You've been deceived, well to a certain point. To give a number, aside from the FPU the GXLV processor is equal to a pentium in its same class but non mmx about 66mhz slower. So clock the processor at 300mhz it would be equal to about a pentium 180-233mhz. http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 03-01-2003 15:40:56

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Got an other update for you boys and girls. I now have the LED lights for the eznet working. Though I only have the two bottem lights working they are software controlible (its two registers, setting either one high or low turns either one of the two leds on or off). changing a few registers is all it takes. As for the red top light, that one I'll be working on later on But it doesnt really need to be tuched, because well its wierd as being part of the POWER good pins on the super io chip. AKA WHY BOTHER WITH IT THEN? 03-04-2003 15:07:11

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Power good means, the computer is either ON/OFF OR (STANDBY/SUSPEND). This boils down to light on or off or blinking. :) any question's? 03-04-2003 15:16:22

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email an other nice little update, I'm sick and tired of this blanking blank blank BLANK BLANK'en blank blank of a blank #$#%#$ blank winter. found out I have a small problem, sewer line is frozen solid :). First thing My landlord said was hum frozen eayy. Thats a case of tuff SHID bud! so here is my house-cleanout pipe, long bit of line, then an other clean out pipe, then my landlords house, then septic. [^]_|______________|___[^]______,,,, By the way I'm up on a hill and he's down below me. We thawed out the pipe by his house and lots of water flowed out comming from my house then stoped. So the block is from the pipe by his house own somewhers. his system works fine though. The other thing is that his kids may have put some stuff in the pipe cause the one by his house is just an open U pipe at the top. But the fact that nothing ever happend during january and february makes us wonder? But it was apparent that water had been flowing out of the pipe but for how long ?? dont know But there was no chunks so ????? hard call! MAINE is getting cold hearted :) 03-04-2003 18:18:30

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email My page is back up and got some new updates on it. http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 03-07-2003 17:53:06

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) jsmmd Profile just want to say good job mate. You've done some big-time sluthing. I'm getting close to having some info. too, but not hardware related. I just can't understand hardware and circuits so good. :) Keep it up! -Me 03-07-2003 23:55:37

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email Thanks, as for the led's if any one wants to TRY and get them working them self's it easy. Setting data ports 4 and 5 high or low is all it takes. for turning the green and orange led's on and off. If i could find a pogram Right now I would post the regesters. Its like EE and somethin else? 03-09-2003 01:10:06

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email parallel ports that is sarry! 03-09-2003 01:12:48

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I think I think I think I think, The 10pin header at the top of the board is a smart card reader? will do more research tonight, so that means its one of 3-5 things. usb, firewire, serial, or maby smart media socket? 03-09-2003 08:43:51

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) jsmmd Profile mp3boombox, What do you think the odds are that can can format the 16meg sandisk compressed to get ~20-30megs. out of it and install a very light version of Windows 95/98? 03-13-2003 20:53:55

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email try it, besides HEHE if that doesnt work INATALL A DOC on the DOC 32pin socket. and then your space is unilimated as far as DOC's go. you'v got either the 16meg SANDISK or you got upto 288megs of msystem DOC space onboard solid state memory. What is your choice? http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 03-14-2003 13:08:10

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I ment to include this, but you can also get these images provided you got the hardware. But for the eznet there is a compact flash adapter image OF BSD that someone made. get a flash adapter and a CF card and load the image. One goes on a CF card the ther one goes on the sandisk. your choise of what you want to use and or what you got for supporting hard ware. http://jpe45305.homeunix.org/dl/images/emsn/ http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 03-14-2003 13:09:55

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email any one know windows CE well? I hacked an image out of the MSN network via a very scrambled html web link string in the CE os files?k https://webcdownload.msn.com/clientman/clientman.dll?DownloadImage?CurrentVersion=0&Component=Mariner;eMachines-1-1;409&SSN=1 its an 8meg file? I'm asuming its an update maby a more user friendly version ce? http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page. 03-15-2003 06:46:53

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email \https://webcdownload.msn.com/clientman/clientman.dll?DownloadImage?CurrentVersion=0&Component=Mariner;eMachines-1-1;409&SSN=1 03-15-2003 07:04:30

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email I just got a 48meg DOC. I'll start doing some work with it some time soon! 04-05-2003 12:57:30

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email welp a DOC is so easy to operate on these things its SICK!!! Basicly its a drop in mod!! once in all you got to do is DISABLE any IDE device in the bios. IF you want to boot from the DOC. other wise you can keep any IDE/usb device and boot from them and access the DOC like it was a regular IDE device. Funny thing is that nothing is loaded to find it as far as drivers. And there isnt realy any thing in the bios about it. If its installed its JUST there. Access is VERY fast! and all the tools work just fine and dandy on it like fdisk, format, scandisk ect.. I have to say this is the easyest mod on the eznet PERIOD WITH THE biggest payoff! The only request/requirment to the mod is adding a dip socket. The one thing I have noticed is that some program's I'm using currently are much more unstable while the DOC is installed on the eznet board. hmmmmmm what exactly is causing that I dont know but I have a feeling its a timing issue between how the DOC works and an IDE device??? AKA USE DOC OR IDE ALONE may proove to be more stable? 04-07-2003 19:16:35

RE:vestel emachine EZNET 200 mini tower post ONLY (modified 0 times) FIRESTORM_v1 Profile I have released a modified version of the Jailbait image for the MSN companion. It was six months in the making. Losing my job gave me a LOT of time to work on it.. ;) But anyways... Jailbait MSN v1.1 is now available at my website: http://www.theratshack.net/download/emachines.tar (windows users: Winzip opens tar too!) The tar file has everything you need to get started including DOLLY. (you are responsible for registering it though..) Right now only the pegasus NIC driver is available, however if you email me with what driver you need, I can attach and send it back to you. In the process of manufacturing the new kernel, I compiled almost every USB NIC driver available for 2.4.18 but the only one that I had room for was the pegasus NIC. You can get further details from the MSN Companion thread here: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowBoard&Board=eia&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session= FIRESTORM_v1 06-23-2003 22:48:00

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