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New MessageCar Appliance (modified 0 times) heitjer
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Alright - I admit that have not been here for a while and the Compaq is collecting dust. I am seeking ideas what to do with it. Is there anyone out there who has incorporated this into a car? As a backup assistance? I amnow into travel trailer camping and could use a back up camera/display? MP3 player for the car/camper? Let me know!
12-04-2006 22:38:16

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) Obcd
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Hi,

If you want to use the unit mobile, you will need a inverter from 12V to 220V, or, you need to replace the 220V power supply with a 12V one. I didn't test yet which voltages the unit needs internally. It will probably be at least 12V, 5V and 3V3. Making 5V and 3V3 from a 12V source is easy. Making a stable 12V from a unstable one is more complicated. I am hoping that the unit only uses it's 12V for the display backlight CCFL so that, maybe, it will work on a lower voltage as well. You might have 220V or 110V available in your camper, in which case the supply problem is irrelevant.

Using the unit as MP3 player is already described in several threats on this BBS. You will need a extra storage device for your music. I use a USB external harddisk for that. USB memory sticks and compact flash memory cards can be used as well.
Connecting a camera is a different story. First of all, I have the impression that the display has a rather slow response time. This will likely cause a serious ghosting effect if you show video on it. Further on, I think you can follow 3 approaches. You can connect a USB camera (like a webcam) directly. The only problem I see there is the limited supported cable length for USB.
You can connect a video out camera and use a video to usb converter.
You can also try a IP cam, use a USB to ethernet adapter, and view the camera pictures in your internet browser. This seems to me the easiest approach. The prices of these type of cameras are lowering, making them affordable. The webcam approach is the cheapest, but, if you have to focus the camera manually, mounted on top of a camper....

regards, have fun with it.

12-13-2006 02:36:59

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) heitjer
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Thanks for the reply!

I am really struggeling getting this done as I do not really see the value anymore after looking at ebay for backup cameras. With a 7" monitor they come between $100 to $150. Its not worth the hassle with this thing.

I will leave it as my front end for the monitor-less PVR via VNC. This way I can drive the PVR without the TV. Sometimes this comes in handy when I just want to play music. It will collect further dust but....

Just got an iMac for my wife for X-mas. That thing looks like real fun!

12-13-2006 19:55:29

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) Obcd
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Hi again,

I have to agree with you. When I analysed my unit, I found as major advantages to it the fact that it was blowerless (and silent because of this), and the fact that it only consumed approx 16W. It's compac(t) design also was a + point. With a embedded OS on it, it boots in less than 40 seconds. For that reason, I found it a good idea to use it as a music player. Other such approaches on the market are either portable unit's (like the iPod) or devices that get their music from your PC. This means, you have to leave your pc on if you wan't to hear your music. So, I bought a 50 euro clipper and a 100 euro harddisk. I also needed a 40 euro wifi stick. This means I have a 190 euro music player. A commercial player with the same possibilities will cost 300 euro or more. My unit can be used as internet radio as well. A great gadget to overbluf your neibour...
Most commercial players can play video as well. I don't see myself looking at a movie on a 3 inch tft screen.
My next step would be to buy a 5 euro universal remote control, and build a receiver into my clipper so that I can control my music player without leaving my seat. The big display of the unit should make it possible to see what's playing from a distance. (Not easy on a ipod if you ask me). If I would calculate the hours I spent already in getting the thing running, I will probably end up with the most expensive music player ever built. (maybe another argument to overbluf my neibour...)
I bought myself a radio with a USB port, in the hope I could play the music from my disk on that. It is possible, but don't try to find a particular CD or song, if you have your total collection on it... That again makes me happy that what I am doing is not so unusefull as I sometimes think.
The moral in the story is, that it is very hard to construct some hard &| software solution these days, cheaper than you can find them prebuild on the market. As long as it stays fun, it will keep you off the streets, and it is a cheap toy. It can be a good learning experience as well, messing around with it. Whatever, who cares?
Maybe I could use it as a digital foto frame as well. (Not sure how much these cost nowadays)
And, another advantage, my music player doesn't erase the songs a friend gave me to listen to after I played them 3 times. At least, I don't think it does.
Besides, since there is no blower in the unit, it doesn't collect that much dust after all

regards,

Luc

12-14-2006 03:50:01

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) heitjer
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I hear you!

I am just not in the mood to get rid of this thing. For some reason I keep using it. As you said it it easy and fast to boot, usually on (in my case) and no noise at all. Just the right 'companion'.

I assume you run the Midori image? Did you had any problems with an external harddrive for your songs?

I am running a AMD1700 headless in a closet as a Video recorder and Music Box. Its connected to the Entertainment Center and TV. In order to work on this unit I have to use VNC to get in. That in itself requires usually that one of the computers in the house is running. I use the IA to quickly get VNC access to the Video Recorder or Music lists. I thought about a handheld pocket PC for this but never came up with the money to do this.....and then there is still the IA.

12-15-2006 23:11:34

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) Obcd
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Hi again,

First of all, my best wishes for the end of the year.

I am not using the midori image. I use a windows CE 5.0 image I custom build for the IA-1
(I just hope they won't erase this message because of this.) The external harddrives seems to work fine with it, so, from a hardware point of view, there is no problem.

regards.

12-19-2006 02:40:55

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) heitjer
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You need to clue me in on the "I use a windows CE 5.0 image". I didn't think that this was possible. Does this mean it is immediately on when you power up? I have never worked with CE - is this similar to the handhelds?

You might want to email me at 'heitjer at hotmail dot com'.

12-21-2006 23:20:25

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) huggy_d1
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Yes, the CE 5.0 image you built would be a wonderful thing ... if it's custom, you could call it MyIACE5Image or something like that ;) I have a couple of the IA-1s waiting for something cool to try and that sounds really cool.
12-29-2006 05:23:34

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) Obcd
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Hi,

I don't mind sharing the image for evaluation purposes. I just can't simply drop it on the net as it is MS stuff and I don't want Bill ringing at my frontdoor. It is not 100% finished yet, but it is functional. Leave me a Email adress and I will get in touch. (Make a temporary one on hotmail or gmail if you don't want to share your adress on this BBS.) I once dropped some stuff on BADONGO (a download site). I think you can find my email adress in there as well.

Regards, and a happy newyear to anyone reading this.

12-30-2006 10:50:27

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) NekoHunteru
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Hey Obcd, mind sending that CE 5.0 image to me at quaildulme@kriocoudek.mailexpire.com? TIA.
02-18-2007 19:38:11

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) basementjax
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Hi Obcd,
I'd like to try the CE image on mine as well. I just wanna make it a nifty little music/media player and run my 120gb usb hd w/ it. You can email me at basementjax457@yahoo.com
thanks!
03-16-2007 00:10:21

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 0 times) Cozzman2k
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Can you also e-mail me the CE Image???

bobbo@sogetthis.com (disposable e-mail)

Thanks much. Midori is ticking me off and won't go to alot of the sites i frequent most.

12-18-2007 10:52:05

New MessageRE:Car Appliance (modified 1 times) ottershaw
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Please send the CE image if it is still available.

Is the modem driver installed?

TIA,

Gordon

ottershaw at comcast.net

12-29-2008 21:20:09

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