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New MessageSomething kinda cool... (modified 0 times) Pat the Hack
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Not entirely related to the CF-01, but...

I have been searching for some code to add a new segment to my home network. I've got the LAN in my home office with an iMac, SGI, Mac/Avid, Powerbook, and my trusty Amiga 3000 (handling the IP/NAT and PPPoE chores). The Powerbook G3 doubles as the base station for the wireless leg so I can web-pad with the CF-01 (see, something related to topic) and Stylistic 2300 around the house and backyard, etc. But I wanted to add another wired segment to network the kids computers in another part of the house.

I searched high and low on the 'net for some software to turn one of my little Stylistic 500s (got 3 lying around) into a router so I could bridge between a wireless pcmcia card (Nokia C020) and an ethernet card (3Com 3C589D) to pass the traffic to and from the rest of the network.

I am not yet Linux proficient, so while there are a couple of Linux based router-on-a-floppy pieces of code, they didn't quite fill the bill (I'll get there some day). Karlbridge software (which runs the Apple Airport Base station) woulda done the trick, but it's not available for download anymore.

So I finally bit the bullet and used 98Lite to install Windows 98 (sleek) on the little penpad.

'Course, it only has a 105mb PCMCIA HD, so I needed to double-space 95mb of it to get the 160 mb required for the install (with 10 mb left uncompressed for paging) and I won't even go into the different headaches 98 put me thru, but tonite after some registry tweeks, I finally managed to get ICS up and running on it and my networks are talking (and my kids can go to Nick.com without messing with the wife's iMac).

Hooray!

06-07-2001 02:28:14

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) laserfan
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I'm pretty sure my 98lite Win98 install was around 100Megs, but my memory might be failing me. In any case, I've noted a number of people expressed disappointment w/98lite and just wanted to point-out that during the clean install you need to select the CUSTOM installation of Win98 to avoid installing stuff you don't want IN THE FIRST PLACE. Unless you do this it will do a standard install which is of course huge, and while you can uninstall extra 98 junk later, you have required a lot more HD space than necessary for the initial install.

This sounds like a big WELL DUH! but in fact I missed it myself the first time I used 98lite, allowed the standard defaults of the MS installer, and got a bloated HD as a result. If you are careful with your setup situation, and use 98lite in a Win98CD partition separate from the drive you're installing to, the space needed for the installed-to drive can be very small.

This is not directed at you Pat, just a comment for any others reading this who may have been puzzled and/or disappointed at the results they got from 98lite.

06-07-2001 04:46:53

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) Pat the Hack
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I don't think your memory is failing you (at least this is not evidence of it), because the docs say that a sleek install should fit within 100 megs, and it's certainly possible to miss the CUSTOM install button, but I didn't, and even when I had nothing selected, it still required over 140 meg. I only selected the ICS & network stuff, so I don't know where the discrepancy lies...

Are there any 98Lite experts out there? (this was 98Lite preview, not professional.)

06-07-2001 11:13:34

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) laserfan
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I think the answer lies with your "preview" version, which is different (less powerful) than the "Professional" ($25 paid) version. The Preview version "converts Internet Explorer, System Information and Read-Me Files from default features to optional components." The Professional version allows custom install of

Internet Explorer
Media Player7 (Me)
MovieMaker (Me)
PC Health (Me)
Media Player2
DirectX
Direct Media
Task Scheduler
MS Cryptography
Web Folders
Internet Control Panel
Internet Search
Telephony
ISDN Configuration Wizard
Disk Defragmenter
Scandisk
ICM Color Profiles
Imaging Support
System Information
CleanUp Manager
Tune-up Wizard
Active Movie
Dr. Watson
Data Access Components
Connection Manager
Email Stationery
Windows Help Files
Legacy Windows 3.1 files
DOS command Files
Desktop Color Schemes
Desktop Tiles
...and more

If you don't see all of these items as optional check-boxes under your Windows setup than this is the answer. IMHO the $25 charge for 98lite Pro is very well worth it.

06-07-2001 12:12:34

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Well I won't claim to be an expert on 98lite but have been using it for several years on all my machines and really love it.

Another reason for actually paying for it is that it has an extra small install mode (micro or something) that would be perfect for what you are doing. It basically strips out the html engine entirely, which means no help or ie but it shouldn't stop ics from working. I think he claims 40m for this version, but it is only available with the purchased version. Well worth the money in my book.

PeteB

06-07-2001 15:15:28

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) Pat the Hack
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Ohhhhhhh!!!!! Now I get it. Okay that makes sense! Doh! I agree the $25 is well worth the price (woulda saved me hours), but as I have more time than spare money right now, I guess it worked out okay in the end.

My goal was to put this thing together with what I had lying around and that was achieved, so when cash becomes more plentiful for me, I'm there with 98Lite Pro...

Thanks for the explanation.

BTW, has anyone else had to add a wired segment to their network from a wireless? If so, how'd you do it? PCMCIA->PCI adapter in a desktop PC? Just curious...

Thanks,

Pat

06-08-2001 12:07:46

New MessageRE:Something kinda cool... (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Well I have a machine that is my "gateway" server that has both wired and wireless nic's. The wireless is in an ISA pcmcia rear slot card that I picked up a year or so ago for $10. The wired card is a normal pci card that connects to my cable modem. Running NAT32 to allow all the wireless machines access to the internet and it works great. I have used this setup for a few years now, first with 56k dailup, then DSL and now Cable. I also recently upgraded all my wireless cards from old IBM LAN Entry cards at about 350Kbps to WaveLAN/IEEE802.3 cards at 2Mbps. When the present generation of 802.3b 11Mbps cards get cheaper I will upgrade to them but for now 2Mbps is enought for me.

PeteB

Pete

06-08-2001 13:46:56

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