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CF-01 vs Stylistic 1200
Pro's of each?

New MessageCF-01 vs Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) megadeth_
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I've already purchased a couple of 1200's, and I've been watching the prices on the CF-01's, and they seem to run substantially higher.

I've been looking at the stats on the two, and the stylistic seems better, but the CF-01 costs double or triple!

Am I missing something? I do wish the stylistic didn't require a special pen, but the screen cover & right click button is also nice to have.

I think my next x10 toy will be either a CF-01, IBM 730T, or ricoh 1200S, I'm still undecided. If anyone can help me decide it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance Matt

08-15-2001 12:00:44

New MessageRE:CF-01 vs Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Well I have never owned the IBM 730t but I have all the others you mention so I guess I can have an opinion.

There are three reasons that the cf-01 is more expensive. First off the cf-01's that were originally sold were brand new in the box and even still have a warrenty from panasonic. Second they include a really great dock / stand that has another pcmcia slot and a floppy drive built in as well as the normal assortment of ports. Lastly there are many more of the stylistics so the volume drove the price of them down alot, six months ago you would have paid $300 for just the stylistic.

As far as which is better for a specific task you will need to decide that yourself. The CF-01 is smaller and lighter that the 1200 but less powerfull with no internal sound support. Maximum memory for the cf-01 is 40m versis 80m for the 1200. Disk space on either is probably limited to less than 8g but the 1200 may be able to go over that. If you wanted something for home automation the cf-01 in its base would be quite nice. It sits up at a nice angle to be displayed on a table and its touch screen doesn't need a special pne but there may be issues with wide touches like finger tips.

I haven't said much about the Ricoh g-1200s since it is much less powerful than these two and has very little support. There is some nice work for using it under linux but under windows it is a little weird. It was designed for win3.1 and never officailly released for win9x so support is sketchy at best. There is also the issue of the pcmcia HD, it will only boot off of certain makes of drives which pretty much limits you to 320M. Also because of the pcmcia HD access to the other pcmcia slot can be a problem, no access under win9x without real mode drivers basically. Same goes for the integrated cdrom, real mode drivers are needed. It is really a shame that ricoh didn't do any better with driver and firmware upgrades, the g-1200s could have been a really nice machine.

PeteB

08-15-2001 14:50:54

New MessageRE:CF-01 vs Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) megadeth_
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Project will be x10 control of house & reeftanks with web & java front ends, for the custom tank hardware, and the x10 gateway (x11a's), with USB temp, ph, orp, and ca probes for the fishtanks. Touchscreens in the wall at the tanks for local control, and at the entryway for house control using X11A controllers, and 2 handheld that double as a webpads, they will use x17a controllers. This is a long term project, I currently have x11a's and x10, and the 1200's acting as webpads, with wireless homefree (crappy diamond wireless card). In my current house I have a security system, but after looking at how it's setup, I'm not impressed, the one thing they do have, that I need is monitoring & automatically phoneing the police. I'll probably go the same route, a leased security system, but I'll be adding either USB webcams on the entryway touchpad, or X10 remote cameras for monitoring, along with some of the x10 motion detector's.

I'm switching to 802.11b wireless as soon as I get all moved, hoping they start to fall in price now that they are insecure, I'll use HTTPS to keep the network locked down. I'm also looking at hacking a couple gateway webpads, but when I price out hacking any of the current touchscreen thin clients, the cost of hardware (drives & cables) quickly exceeds the price of these low power pads, the Cf-01 or stylistic's, or the ricoh.

X10 is suprisingly cheap to impliment, the only real cost will be the tank hardware & usb probes, I may skip the tank hardware and dedicate a webpad to control, but I'll have to write the software myself if I go this route, that part of the setup would definitly be bi-directional x10, I do need to come up with a DIY water detector, we have these under the computerroom floors, but they just sound an alarm, I need my touchpad to react to the sensor's short, and turn off pumps to prevent further flooding.

I've got 12 months to fully design and prototype everything, signed a 12 month lease on appartment while I move to the midwest. I've not seen any viable alternatives to x10 as far as cost & ease of implimentation. My current house had 1/2 the system I describe, not fully automated, and off the shelf tank monitors.

I currently run a citrix server, I did think of using a truely thin client with bootp, but then I have to rip up walls to run the network, not something I really want to do, and this setup is modular, costing a little more, but easier to impliment & change. I've got 5-6 months before I really start hardware purchases so I have plenty of time to hash out the pros/cons of each, I dont think the true thin clients will give me then x10 flexibility that I need, although they are so cheap I might use them as a upstairs controlpad or somthing similar.

L8r Matt

08-16-2001 09:13:38

New MessageRE:CF-01 vs Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) mindblender
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I'm sure you have already checked them out, but look at smarthome.com. They have an aquarium controler to monitor the ph levels and temp.

I'd be interested in learning more about the setup your designing. Do you have any pics of the installation?

Thanks,
Jeff
email me: mindblender@mindblender.com

04-14-2002 00:04:34

New MessageRE:CF-01 vs Stylistic 1200 (modified 0 times) keggers
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for your applicaion you may be interested in the toshiba dynapad t200s. They don't have much for hardware and would be best with windows 3.1 but this would make a good implimentation for the in wall units, than use a cf-01 of point 510 or stylistic 1200 for the mobile units. Mail me at mssmison@hotmail.com and we can swap ideas.
Craig
07-25-2002 10:12:33

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