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New MessageCF-01 memory (modified 0 times) lensman
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dynomite said:

The removeable memory has these numbers on it. SEC KOREA 628Y KM44V4000ALS-6. Its a 144 pin fast page mode SODIMM (Crucial tech support) They also said they do not make them.

Techworks says that EDO memory is backward compatible with FPM. I have no experience in this regard, but if true, would make our SODIMM easier to find.

Lensman

04-16-2001 15:37:51

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Are you (the original poster) sure that it is 144 pin sodimm, from the picture I saw it looked like a 72 pin sodimm which would be more likely given the motherboard and age.

A 144 pin sodimm has a notch in the midle of the contact area and is about 2 3/4 inches wide (2.67" something).

a 72 pin sodimm has no notches in the contact area and is only 2 1/4 inches wide (2.35" something)

This is the link for a PDF (acrobat) file for the 72 pin sodimm, the diagram is towards the bottom.

http://images.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/modules/DM89.pdf

This is the link for a PDF for the 144 pin sodimm, diagram at the bottom, noe the notch.

http://images.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/modules/DM83.pdf

Compare them and figure out which is the one in the cf-01. If you asked crucial for FPM in an 144 pin sodimm they woulnd'y have any but they do have it in a 72 pin sodimm.

One thing, a 72 pin sodimm has 144 pins if you count the front and back, a 144 pin sodimm has 288.

PeteB

04-16-2001 16:06:51

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Also, is this the number on the sticker on the module or the numbers on the actual chips? The more details the more likely we are to find a workable expansion module. I hope to have my cf-01 by the middle of the week so then I can add my own information.

PeteB

04-16-2001 16:26:39

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) dynomite
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tcbordp, I thought it was a 72 pin sodimm, but the tech support guy at Crucial talked me out of it.

It is a 72 pin sodimm there is no notch in the middle of it. The numbers that I referred to were on the chip itself not stickers. I thought I read somewhere that the CF-01 had 8mb on board and a 16mb module (not upgradeable) total 24mb which it has.

Crucial site does have 72 pin sodimm http://www.crucial.com/store/ListModule.asp?module=72-pin+SODIMM&x=15&y=16

Not sure if they are compatible though.

04-16-2001 17:31:11

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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The big problem is if it is Fast Page Mode (FPM) or Extended Data Out (EDO). I have seen more than on 486 motherboard that won't support EDO. Also the second problem is if it is 3.3v memory or 5v memory. Once we have those two facts in hand we can find a suitable substitute.

I tried to decipher the part number on Samsungs web site but am not positive it is right. They have two different forms for their numbers, and even with the old form it doesn't quite match but it is very close. I am betting that it is FPM memory at 3.3v but until I get mine I won't be sure.

PeteB

04-16-2001 17:44:59

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
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Yes, I have a computer downstairs full of 80MB of FPM. 70ns. Never thought I'd be glad to have that memory...maybe it'll work.
04-16-2001 19:35:56

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Ok, given that the numbers are on the chips themselves here is what I found at samsung's site. The chips are 4Mx4 FPM 3.3v DRAM 60ns. If the module has 4 of them then there is 8M total on the module. If there are 8 (check both sides) then it is a 16M module.

The good news is that this is basically the same spec that the Dell Latitude XP and XPi use which makes this a common memory package. I already have a 16M sodimm in this format for my Ricoh G-1200s so as soon as my CF-01 arrives I can confirm its functionality. I also have seen 32M sodimms for sale on ebay for around $60 but I don't know that they will work, there may be motherboard addressing limits involved.

I should get my cf-01 today or tommorrow so I will poast as soon as I know any more.

PeteB

04-18-2001 15:35:01

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) 3dMan
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Hi, I have just got confirmation that my order has been shipped! Also I just happen to have a Dell Xpi that has a cracked case, and a suspicious looking mem. module (I'm not sure but I think it's just an 8 meg) but it would at least tell us if the dell memory would work right? I'm pretty excited to get this thing but I don't want to fry it, there shouldn't be any risk just putting the mem in and seeing if it will boot correct? Anyway just thought I would share my thoughts...
-Todd
04-19-2001 06:58:02

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Good news.

First off I got my cf-01 and it works great, thanks busdepot.

Second I put the 16M sodimm from my Ricoh g-1200s in the cf-01 and it works perfectly.

So that means that memory from a Dell XP or XPi will work, now I just need to order a 32M sodimm and see if it recognises 32M for a total of 40M. The motherboard has 8M on board (just as listed in the manual) so 40M is probably as high as we can go.

Now I just need a bigger hard drive and I will be a happy camper.

PeteB

04-19-2001 13:27:39

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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tcbordp, can u find out about bulk buying. Im sure others (including myself) will be interested in upgrading.
04-19-2001 13:37:41

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) ChrisP
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hi,
when you get to test the 32mb sodimm, and if it works, can you post the part number - there seem to be a lot of them out there.
thanks
c.
04-19-2001 14:38:58

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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It would be real hard to do any sort of bulk buy on memory since I doubt that any company still makes these modules. 72pin SODIMMs go with 486 and very early pentium based notebooks, nothing currently in production. Most of the memory companies only list 16m modules. Your best bet for finding 32m modules will be ebay or a surplus dealer.

Now if we could find out if EDO memory works we might be a little better off. Anyone know someone with an older laptop that used 72pin SODIMMs in EDO DRAM?

PeteB

04-19-2001 16:56:06

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) 3dMan
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Well it looks like tcbordp beat me to it. I just got my cf-01 yesterday, Thanks busdepot! I've got it charged and its good to know that the 32mb modules will work! Now I need to look into getting the pcmcia sound card...
-Todd
04-20-2001 05:29:55

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Groch
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I don't think he knows if it works yet, just that the 16 meg do. I hope anyone who tries a 32 meg lets us know the results.
04-20-2001 05:37:17

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) 3dMan
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Right, what I ment to say was... *Grin* Well I hope that it will work. Definatly keep us posted!
04-20-2001 07:02:03

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
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16MB modules won't help us right?
I have seen many for around $15-20 though.
The memory slot already has a 16MB in the slot right?
04-20-2001 12:59:00

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
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Oops sorry, missed the answer above...:(
04-20-2001 13:03:28

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Just wanted to keep everyone posted.

I found a place with a pretty good price on a compatible (I hope) 32M sodimm and ordered one. It should be here by the middle of next week since they are only a couple of states away from me. I will post if it works or not as soon as I get it installed.

PeteB

04-20-2001 16:17:15

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) geekgranny
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Any news yet?
"Ah crapola....sorry for the multiple posts..." (Greenspark)
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04-24-2001 23:52:31

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Here is the current scoop.

I just got the memory module today (Wednesday) and immediately put it in and it was detected for a total of 40m. Upon further investigation there are a couple of issues that I haven't found a way around yet.

First off the video won't work over 256 colors with any driver I have tried so far. One driver even said it was in 16 colors though settings said 256. It comes up with the display setting error with a couple of the drivers and even has part of the fail at loading. This is very similar to the problem that the IBM PC110 had when it was upgraded to 20m, it needed a bios upgrade to handle it correctly or you could not get any video mode but 16 colors.

Second one of the system devices is listed with a question mark. It is the System board extension for PnP BIOS and it gives code 10 (not present, note working or no driver).

I am going to install win98se tonight if I get a chance and see if it or its drivers will have any better luck with these problems.

PeteB

04-25-2001 16:37:06

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) geekgranny
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Don't have any time and no time for a look at pics or search. This is a total off-the-wall stab in the dark and may have nothing to do with your problems. So here goes... isn't there a place for a 1meg add on video chip? Seems like I remember an empty spot for one. If memory serves me...HAR... seems it would require soldering?

Gotta run....


"Ah crapola....sorry for the multiple posts..." (Greenspark)
THEGeekGranny-epodsgranny@hotmail.com
04-25-2001 17:33:30

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) laserfan
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Hey, isn't this a 32Mb SODIMM in my drawer, left over from my iOpener upgrade? Doesn't one of you guys have one of these to try in the CF-01? Pls advise.
04-25-2001 18:55:04

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Geekgranny:

I haven't seen any spots that look like video memory addon pads. Since this is a 65548 chips and technologies video chipset 1m is probably the max. You younguns don't remember back in the olden days when 1m was alot of video memory

As I said in the other post this is exactly the same problem that the pc110, another 486 class machine, had with its memory upgrade. I imagine that it has to do with addressing of the memory overlapping with addressing something in the video chip.

Laserfan:

The memory for the IOpener is a 144 pin PC66/100 SDRAM sodimm. The CF-01 takes a 72 pin FPM DRAM sodimm, quite a different animal.

PeteB

04-25-2001 20:14:22

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) pete
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tcbordp,

I found the following for $96 (kind of high eh?)

32 Meg 60ns 3.3 volt EDO SODIMM

Think it would work?

04-25-2001 22:52:41

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Pete:

I don't know if EDO will work or not. The memory on board and in the expansion module are both FPM. Also, I have had 486 boards that will not take EDO memory so they are not always compatible.

After further investigation there are two rather annoying problems with the added 32m of memory. First is the fact that you can only run in 16 colors, anything higher causes errors at start up and the display properties not set up correctly error. Second is that even with hibernation enabled and the hiber.dat and hiber.bin file correctly created it will not hibernate, causing multiple errors instead and eventually requiring a power cycle. Also the bios at boot always reports that hibernation is not available.

I believe that both of these problems are BIOS related but I don't forsee any way around them since there is no update available for the BIOS and I don't even know if it is reprogrammable.

Given the above if anyone wants to buy a 32m sodimm the information is below. I have only dealt with this company this one time. They were a little slow (around 1 week via usps from NY to VA) but the product is as described.

http://www.coastmemory.com/category.asp?pagetoview=3&catid=11&subcatid=11

The item you want is:

LGEN0323F1 GENERIC -72 PIN 3V FPM SO DIMM 32 meg $39.49

If the link doesn't work just pick the laptop SODIMM link from the first page.

They also list a 32M module for the Dell Latitude XPi CD M166ST with part number LGENO323F2 and the same price. I don't know i f there is any difference, they only one I tried is the first one I listed.

PeteB

04-26-2001 00:12:00

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory & hibenation (modified 0 times) Pat the Hack
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If the CF-01 uses the Phoenix BIOS, you can use the PHDISK program to reset the hibernation area of the HD. If the CF-01 uses a file to write the RAM contents to, this process is alot easier than if it uses a hidden partition (which can require re-partitioning & reformatting the HD.
04-26-2001 01:14:21

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) pete
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PeteB...
Initially when I had the CF-01 docked and installed the Panasonic sound card (Win95) the computer would lock up. Also had WaveLan installed. I disabled the IR port & SCSI. I still get the Hibernate error and the question mark on the PCMCIA system driver but it works well. I have not played with any key sequences on boot to get into the bios. Thanks for the source info on the memory.
04-26-2001 05:34:51

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Pat:

I am not sure what bios it uses but it doens't use a hibernation partition it just uses a file. The setup software utility creates the file just fine, a little over 40M, but the bios still doesn't like it.

Also, on a more serious note, the memory expansion also seems to be effecting suspend mode. When exiting suspend it gives the same sort of errors that occur during a hibernation attempt, lots of fatal exceptions at such and such address, no paritcular software component identified. Tonight I am going to put the 16M back in and see if these are win98se problems or memory problems, I have a feeling they are memory and bios related.

PeteB

04-26-2001 14:40:42

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Ok here is an update.

Last night I took out the 32M and put the 16m back in. After that both the color setting change and suspend (memory powered) mode work again as they did originally. This is under win98se installed with 98lite chubby mode . The hibernation (memory to disk) still doesn't work but I think I know why. I installed on a fat32 partition and even though the utility to create the hibernation file works ok I have a feeling that the bios doens't like fat32. If someone has their cf-01 handy with the original disk and win95 install check the partition and see if it is a fat16 partition and let us know. If not I will check it tonight when I get home.

So as it stands you can have 40M of memory if you can live with 16 colors and not suspend or hibernation. If you need more colors, suspend or hibernation then you are stuch at 24M.

PeteB

04-27-2001 15:11:52

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Steve
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Does it make a difference if its 2x16 or 4x8?
Which is the one that we know works?
05-12-2001 05:14:01

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Steve
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D'oh! I just realized, 2x16 probably means 2 sticks of 16 and not the configuration of the chips on the simm.
05-12-2001 05:25:43

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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I didn't realize I never posted this follow up here so I will to make it easy to find.

After further testing the 32M upgrade does work correctly. The hibernation problem was caused by FAT32, after I reformatted as FAT16 and reinstalled win98se hibernation worked fine. The problem I had wit hsuspend was related to the video driver problems.

The video is still a minor problem. I have found that the Chips & Technologies Super VGA driver that is part of win98se will give 256 colors with no problems. Pete, in another thread, documents that he got the Sci Tech Display Doctor driver to do 16 bit color correctly.

So as long as you get the video driver right and use FAT16 for your file system, at least on the first partition, you can have 40m total and everything works fine.

PeteB

05-12-2001 16:59:19

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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This may be a dumb question, but has anyone tried a 64 meg sodimm for a total of 72 megs yet? Or will it just not recognize that much....
05-26-2001 23:46:19

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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I have never seen a 64m, 3.3v, FPM (fast page mode), 72 pin sodimm. If you have one or can find one by all means try it out. These are NOT the same as the commonly advertised 64m SDRAM (synchronous dynamic random access memory) 144 pin sodimms used in more modern machines.

PeteB

05-27-2001 00:08:57

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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Hey PeteB,
At Coast to coast memory, what is the differance between these three modules(if you ever figured it out): ??
LGENO323F $39.00
LGENO323F1 $39.49
LGENO323F2

I figured since you have delt with them regarding the LGENO323F1, you might know the differace.

FYI: I did do some comprehensive web shopping for a 32MB upgrade for the CF-01, and Coast to coast does have the best price around. The only other interesting option is here: http://shopping.instaorder.com/servlet/teamx?cart=cfmmgelnkdxj&dept=SODIMMS&item=SO-8MX32-60F3V&action=itemdetail

05-27-2001 01:20:32

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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I found a 64 meg 72 pin 3.3v sodimm but it is an EDO chip. The company has a compatability guarantee so I might give it a try and order one next week. I'll let you guys know how it works out. I already have a 32meg chip on the way from Coast memory. I also upgraded my harddrive to a 6gig with no problems at all. I'm also trying out a bunch of pen programs but have yet to find a decent one. If you know of any, please send me an E-mail at stonebarger@prodigy.net. Thanks,
Scott
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05-27-2001 17:15:19

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) lensman
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I'd like to chime in and thank PeteB. I ordered my 32MB FPM SODIMM from Coast-to-Coast. I also had to pay sales tax. =(

Installed the Scitech drivers and I'm off and running.

Next the HD upgrade. But I'm not so sure I need it. With the wireless lan, I can get all the files I need off of my desktop.

05-27-2001 20:35:46

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Coolmaui:

You would have to talk to them to find out the difference. I just know that one I got worked ok.

Stoney49:

I have seen 64m in EDO but didn't want to spend the extra to try it. It may work or it may not, no way of knowing. Even though some people will say that EDO is compatible with FPM systems I have seen more than one 486 based system that wouldn't work with EDO.

PeteB

05-27-2001 22:00:18

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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PeteB,
I'm pretty sure it wont work either as your actually mixing FPM (Onboard) and EDO (Module). But reading the link above gave me a enough doubt that I may go ahead and try it. Since they offer a compatability guarantee I guess all I would be out is time and tying up my $ for awhile.
Scott
05-28-2001 07:50:28

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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PeteB,
I'm pretty sure it wont work either as your actually mixing FPM (Onboard) and EDO (Module). But reading the link above gave me a enough doubt that I may go ahead and try it. Since they offer a compatability guarantee I guess all I would be out is time and tying up my $ for awhile.
Scott
05-28-2001 08:09:42

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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PeteB,
I'm pretty sure it wont work either as your actually mixing FPM (Onboard) and EDO (Module). But reading the link above gave me a enough doubt that I may go ahead and try it. Since they offer a compatability guarantee I guess all I would be out is time and tying up my $ for awhile.
Scott
05-28-2001 08:35:43

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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A triple post, oops. I'm going to wait at least a week until I order the memory so I'll pass along the info. If someone orders from them please check what the quanity available might be, just in case they work. It's availabe from Crucial and here's the link: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp?imodule=CT16M32E8T6. They have a good return policy if it's not compatible so I think there is very little risk involved. I believe the price was $115 with free 2nd day shipping. If someone tries this out before me please let us know how it works out. BTW it is EDO so it may not work for that reason and the size of the module.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken ;)
06-01-2001 20:39:57

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Lars
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Coast to Coast seems to have changed their part numbering system. They no longer have a part number LGEN0323F1. I did a search on Dell Latitude XPi CD M166ST and the part number they now use is LGFP32U/032/G3V60 I hope it works in the CF-01. I oredered one.
I stumbled onto this BBS last Friday thought the CF-01 would be a great web browser and send a money order to Ron today.
06-04-2001 15:16:13

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) GuyMontag
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OK, have looked at all of the memory discussions to date for the CF-01 and am still lost as to why more than 32M is assumed not to work.

On the I-Opener board we had the same discussion with the "concensus" being that above a 64M SODIMM would not work. I am running 128M in mine and it works fine. The limit being that above 128M (configuration 16Meg x 64) the proper configuration is only made by one company. Nobody (last I bothered to look) had found anyplace to purchase.

Is the issue the availability of 64M with proper config. that will fit in this machine, or is there another reason why it definately won't work?

06-08-2001 11:53:16

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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We are not saying that 64mb will not work for sure in the least. The catch is as far as any of us know, there is no such animal as a 64mb FPM sodimm. You can easily find them in EDO, but the problem is that the 8mb that built in to the unit is FPM, and the two probably will not mesh. As of yet, there has been no one willing to shell out $100-150 to try the edo sodimm out.
Hope that answers your question.

CoolMaui

06-08-2001 13:14:16

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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I ordered a 64meg EDO SODIMM today from Crucial, I'll let you guys know at the end of the week.
Scott
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken ;)
06-11-2001 12:20:09

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) NITF
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If the EDO does have problems with the onboard RAM some simple surgery may be required to remove it.

I plan to test out this theory if simply installing the module does not work.

NITF

06-11-2001 17:53:27

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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The chip I recieved was a little taller than the original and 32 meg so it interferes with a capacitor that is just above the memory slot. When installed it almost always will not recognise the addl. memory (Reads 8 megs). A few times it would read addl. memory but not the correct amount. I dont know if this is from a bad connection due to the addl. heaght or if it just has trouble reading EDO or 64 megs correctly. So far things don't look good for the 64 meg EDO :(
06-15-2001 23:19:37

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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Stoney49,
When the memory did get recognized, what happened? How much was reported and was everything working correctly (that you know of) ???
06-16-2001 00:26:19

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) Stoney49
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Most of the time it would only report 8 megs then a couple of times it would register around 12megs. It wouldn't boot into windows during either of these times. I believe because I am running win98se. I may try a little more before I send it back.
Scott
06-16-2001 22:00:58

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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Can anyone let me know what the manufature part number is that is from the 32MB fpm sodimms that you got from Coast to Coast memory? My modules dont seem to work and I want to make sure they sent me the correct part before I send it back.
Thanks a bunch-
CoolMaui
06-18-2001 20:06:01

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 1 times) JunkLeo
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I ordered
LGEN0323F1 GENERIC -72 PIN 3V FPM SO DIMM
and it works.

*EDIT*
I thought you just want the part number, I am too lazy to open the CF-01 to see the chip part number.

06-18-2001 20:19:43

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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If there is anyone out there who off hand knows the actual chip part number w/o having to take their cf-01's apart, let me know. (I understand, JunkLeo ;) )

CoolMaui

06-18-2001 21:53:50

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) ouzome
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As noted above, Coast to Coast has changed their part numbers. The guy on the phone told me that I was getting the same thing as the description listed way above, but it has a little extra green plastic on one side that won't allow it to fit. On my invoice their is only a gay Item# 32MEGLAP and the description '32meg laptop module 72 PIN 3.3V FPM SO DIMM as per customer specs'. The ram has two bigger black chips horizontally, compared to the four smaller vertical chips of the original ram.
Does the working memory look similar to this? Can I just 'cut' away some of the green plastic?
Does anyone know the current part number for Coast to Coast? and of course, and as always, thanks in advance for any help. ouzome.
P.S. The numbers on the chips are:
SEC KOREA 901 KM416C4100BS-6 Anyone?
07-25-2001 17:26:48

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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After having to send back two incorrect parts because of a part number error on their web site, I received KM416V4100AS-L6 from Coast to Coast last month. According to this site, the differance between our parts is the revision number (A vs. B). http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/buy/decoder/dramcomp.htm
I have not actually tried installing the memory yet cause of the Chips and Drivers issue, so I dont know if my module has the same "extra plastic". I can sent you a pic of it if you get me your email address.

Nathan
CoolMaui@yahoo.com

07-25-2001 20:17:08

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) PeteC
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Been running with the 40 meg upgrade, 5.1 gig HD and MS Win98SE. I originally posted that I was able to get the Sci Tech driver to work in 16bit color mode and had been running up until last week. I decided that the DOS initial load of the Sci Tech drivers was causing more issues that it was worth. I have switched back to using the C&T SuperVGA 256 color driver which is part of Win98SE. Using the Sci Tech drivers I was able to bet the 65530 C&T driver to work correctly so maybe if we could find that driver for Win98SE it might work correctly with 16 bit color.
07-26-2001 17:42:21

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) hitch
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Has anyone found a working source for the 32 mb memory? I've searched all the surplus sites and several memory suppliers, none show the the FPM in 32 mb or anything that will work with the CF-01. I'm looking for suggestions. Thanks
08-02-2001 15:04:41

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) jackalope
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hitch:

I just purchased a working SODIMM from coast memory:

The item you want is on this page: http://www.coastmemory.com/category.asp?pagetoview=2&catid=11&subcatid=11

Look for the description "32 MEG 72 PIN 3.3V FPM SO DIMM" FOR $35. They charge $6 for shipping with another $1 for
insurance. Total cost of about $42. Note that the item number is the same as for an EDO SODIMM "LGED32U/032/G3V60"
The email that they send listed my item as EDO, and so was the invoice. I didn't check to see if the memory they sent
was EDO or FPM. However, rather than call them up, I decided to see if it would work in the CF-01 first. It worked
just fine.

08-04-2001 08:09:15

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) lapax
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I ordered the exact part listed above, but looks like coast sent me the EDO memory instead. Will be sending it back. Hopefully they will send me the FPM module. Both of them have the same part number. With the module they sent me, the unit goes haywire, never correctly recognizing the right amount of memory. Might want to call them up to order it instead of ordering from the web.
08-12-2001 10:34:07

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Golden ram has several 72pin FPM 3.3v sodimms. The part numbers are as follows
7530263-GR 32MB SODIMM FPM NP 4MX16 $108.00
7530265-GR 32MB SODIMM FPM NP 8MX8 $35.00
7530266-GR 64MB SODIMM FPM NP 8MX8 $69.00
http://www.goldenram.com/newupro/layout.asp?systemid=7615&mfg=MEMORY%2DFASTPAGE&productline=72%2DPIN+SODIMM
Not sure if the 64mb would work with the cf-01.
Need to call them and find out if they are really FPM and not EDO
08-12-2001 11:20:46

New MessageRE:CF-01 memory (modified 0 times) CoolMaui
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lapax-
That same thing happened to me when I ordered off of Coast2Coast.....finally got my FPM module though. :)
Before you install the correct part when you get it, let me know what the mfg. number is that is on the mem chips themselves, ok?

I picked up the 64mb sodimm from golden ram also. According to everyone I spoke to, it is FPM.....We'll have to wait and see, I guess... I picked it up for $57.00 + $10.00 shipping from one of their VARS. Not a bad price if it turns out to be a working solution.

08-13-2001 22:24:51

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drumroll please. . .
08-14-2001 20:35:19

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This is my trial of memory. Found a compaq Armada 4100 listed as using FPM memory 72 pin and was the exact dimensions we need. Memory options showed that it took two slots and the optional configurations required two SODIMMS to equal the total in the upgrade kits. My thinking was that the 64mb kit would consist of two 32mb chips. I just received the memory kit, and yes, there are two identical SODIMM'S FROM Kingston. I installed one SODIMM, it fit perfectly! I booted and it stalls at the memory count, but shows 65152kb extended. I'm asking the more knowledgeable of the group if there is a work around? Why if the kit shows 64mb total, for two SODIMM's does one installed chip report as 65152kb ? I think there may be several things going on here. (1) that I have two 64mb SODIMM's and the CF-01 will not recognize that much memory. (2) That these are proprietary to the Compaq and will not work in anything else, there is something on the SODIMM telling the system that we now have 64k memory, even though there is only one SODIMM installed (3) that these are possibly EDO replacements and will not work with the on board 8mb and conflict. That could be why it shows 65152kb and does not include the 8mb on board. I can return and get credited so I'm not desperate, but thought I'd give something back to the board and invest in some trial and error myself. The numbers on each SoDIMM are (KTC-A4100/64) Kingston. Kingston shows the Armada 4100 series as the only user of this part.
08-15-2001 14:48:21

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This is probably a bus layout issue. The Compaq Armada 4100 is a pentium with a wider data bus than the 486 based CF-01. It probably requires two sodimms to span the width of the data bus. If you remember back to the early days of pentium motherboards you had to put their simms in in pairs for the same reason. In the case of one chip in the CF-01 I imagine that you are running into some sort of addressing conflict between the onboard memory and the sodimm since most 486 boards only addressed 64m total. If there was some way to disable the onboard memory you might have a working 64m solution but there isn't short of surgery.

PeteB

08-15-2001 15:51:24

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CoolMaui,
any luck with your 64 MB FPM sodimm?
08-30-2001 13:11:32

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