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New MessageClean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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well, I clean installed SE last night and all went well including pen services installation, system utilities installation and 802.11b wireless card installation. HOWEVER, I do find an unknown device when I reboot the unit...anyone else seeing this?
04-18-2001 08:45:31

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) ouzome
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Do you notice a difference in speed? Does 98se use a lot more resources, is it very noticeable?
Does 98 take up a lot more space on your hard drive?
Thanks,
ouzome
04-18-2001 09:45:35

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) dynomite
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Check to see if you have infrared services (Look in control panel for infrared icon). I have already reinstalled W95 many times and had to download that from Microsoft's website filname (W95IR.EXE). Not sure if it is installed with W98(probably not).
04-18-2001 10:05:49

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) geekgranny
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james'etc.,

In device manager, on mine, using original W95, I have "PCMCIA socket=PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller" AND ALSO "? Other Devices=? PCMCIA Card Services" using generic windows driver I assume (reports no info on driver).

I have two (2) PCMCIA cards in the 2 devices slots, i.e., Proxim Lan2 wireless card and a CF card adapter; both working great.

Where are your card services located in device manager?


On my Win98SE Notebook (Dell Inspiron 3000) Card and Socket services are both listed under "PCMCIA Socket". Notebook has 2 Type II slots. Device Manager loads a driver for each slot and a driver for each Card; all in "PCMCIA Socket". I can't remember off hand, because I usually have drivers for all cards for Notebook or Win98 recognizes them and loads drivers, but it seems that when it doesn't recognize a card it will put it in "? Other devices". Seems like it depends on what card it is whether it loads a generic driver or puts an "!". Sometimes it won't recognize a card even though there are drivers in Windows\system so I have to direct it to the driver.

Thanks for reporting to board. Please report back to board on this issue as I'm sure all will be interested.

As soon as I can grab some extra time I'm going to load Win98 too.


Be well,


"Ah crapola....sorry for the multiple posts..." (Greenspark)
THEGeekGranny-epodsgranny@hotmail.com
04-18-2001 10:31:10

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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i actually swapped the hard drive with a 3gb and sysed it, copied cabs to it via adapter ide cable on a desktop unit (that all worked great) so the install was "from scratch". I have to confirm but I dont think I get this problem when I'm docked (booted into in the docked profile), only when I'm undocked. I only have my card services show up in the correct place...no "other device" is listed currently and my wireless DELL aironet is working fine. Im going to compare my device manager to a CF-01 with virgin 95 on it to see what's different.

If someone is willing I can take screen grabs and email them for someone to post somewhere...

BTW, any work on memory for this thing? Although 98SE runs smoothly I'd love to throw some more ram at it. Can someone confirm 1 slot or 2 available...is the 8mb soldered onboard and 1 16mb simm? Im also considering 98lite..what do you think?

04-18-2001 10:46:10

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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OK, did the side by side comparison and nothing is standing out as being different...in fact 98SE has MORE items under system resource section of device manager! Tried in the dock again and it still does ask for a driver so its not a profile issue. Also tried w/o any cards installed to make sure it wasnt anything to do with that and it still prompted me. I used the stock win98se video driver and not the one posted on panasonics site. Also, default monitor as opposed to unknown in 95. My infrared adapter shows up under network adapters and the virtual com and parallel ports show up under ports.

Anyone else seeing this?

04-18-2001 11:36:22

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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James

Are you saying that when you dock it it asks for a driver, as in finding new hardware? I wonder if it is the pcmcia in the dock since it is probably implemented as a second controller. That and the floppy are about the only devices in the dock that I would think would be found and the floppy should be found silently.

PeteB

04-18-2001 15:40:33

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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my mistake on the explanation, it asks for new hardware (unknown device) in docked or undocked mode...
04-19-2001 09:50:58

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) dynomite
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greekgranny and anyone who kept Win95 on your CF-01. If you go into device manager you will have pcmcia card services listed under other devices with a question mark. All of your pcmcia slots will work but this windows 95 update will fix this issue and update the driver.

http://www.microsoft.com/Windows95/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUServicePacks/PCCard/Default.asp

04-20-2001 09:21:15

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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I just did a win98se install and I get the same unknown device. I looked at its resources and checked my other computer and it is the keyboard. I don't know why it wasn't detected but the unknown device has the exact same io address ranges and interrupt. Since it is interrupt 1 nothing else could be on it, that has been the keyboard interrupt since day one, so to speak.

To fix it go to System, Unknown device, Properties then click on Reinstall Driver. You have to pick Specify Device since the search won't find it. Then just pick Keyboard and Standard 101/102 key keyboard ...

PeteB

04-26-2001 00:29:42

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) jamesd1343
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Ill give it a shot....thanks for the information.

weird that it didnt find it considering i was docked when I installed the OS

04-26-2001 06:35:06

New MessageRE:Clean 98 Installation (modified 0 times) tcbordp
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Mine was docked and had a keyboard and mouse plugged in as well but didn't detect it (got the mouse, not the keyboard). It may be a conflict between the internal and external ports or just that the bios doesn't report it correctly to the software. Either way as soon as I did the above it came up as the keyboard after a reboot and it seems to be happy.

PeteB

04-26-2001 14:36:22

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