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New Messagemini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) kevinpshan
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Let me start by saying I KNOW NOTHING. I just bought a GCT. It was the HPN version. I also purchased an Actiontec mini-pci ethernet/modem card. Opened up the GCT and installed the new card. (This is big time for me.) The original HPN card had one connector that attached just above the Network jack.

The ethernet card has another connector on it... appears to be 14 pins? Above the network jack is an open connector that appears to be 4 pins. Do I need to connect those two? What kind of connector do I need to do it?

After putting in the new ethernet card, I've tried restarting the device (CTRL-SHIFT-+) The only connection options available are TELEPHONE and HOME NETWORK. Choosing HOME NETWORK with the network connected just sits there. Is there something that needs to be done to the software?

If anyone has the ethernet version and can describe the connections it might help. Better... if someone knows the type of cable I need, that would be great. What are the software connection options on the ethernet version? Does it say TELEPHONE - HOME NETWORK or ETHERNET?

Any help is much appreciated.

kevinpshan@aol.com

10-26-2001 18:00:59

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) BigDog
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Are you using the Instant AOL or other OS ?? It is my understanding you need to run software from AOL on a second computer to "bridge" your AOL accoount to the GCT, I am pretty sure you can't connect directly to the net with the GCT by placing it on a ethernet network. Search for the tread, there was a post sometime ago about that, use "AOL software" as a term.

Now if you have installed a different ethernet card than what the GCT came with this might a problem too, The 10/100 ethernet card that came with the GCT connected directly to the RG45 port without using any connecter, nor did it have any software controlled options to change such (I would guess that this is a normal way to do this, I had a IBM notebook and currently have a Gateway Solo notebook that they all have mini-pci and use this method),

The HPNA mini-pci card uses a two pin connecter to connect to the pins 2 & 3 of of the telephone RG11 port. (both 2 pin conecters on the GCT mainboard are the same, they are wired in series).

There is a four pin connecter next to the 2 other RG11 telephone ports that connects to the RG45 8 conducter ethernet port(ethernet technically just need those 4 out of 8 to cominicate), this should be were you should connect a ethernet card that doesn't support the direct internal network connecter and has a wired connecter to run to the RG45 port.

FYI - The orinal HPNA card and modem that came with the GCT used the very same RG11 telephone lines (2 & 3), the HPNA Mini-pCi card actually was a software 56k modem too, so the HPNA version of the GCT actually have two modems in them, that's why there are two RG11 connecters on the mainboard. One modem was the hardware modem (little rectangle card w/t 4 screws) and the other software controlled one in the combo HPNA/56k modem. It's my belief that second real modem is used with Instant AOL because the Midora Linux didn't have a driver written for the modem 56k function of the combo card.

Does this help??

10-27-2001 04:42:10

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) kevinpshan
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I am using the origina OS, instant AOL. From some further reading I've done on the board I think I just bought an incompatible mini pci card. I installed an Actiontec MP100IM It just does not seem to be recognized. Since I've now read that the actual ethernet card from gateway has no connectors coming off it, I'll assume this one just will not work.

Now I guess I'll try gateway and actiontec to see if either of them still have the card available. Actiontec support was less than helpful. They basically said they did not support their mini pci cards.

Anyone have a source for the ethernet card Actiontec part number 50-6048-2A.

Thanks
kevinpshan@aol.com

10-27-2001 10:11:07

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) kevinpshan
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OK... now I'm completly baffled. I just got off the phone with gateway. I told them I wanted to convert an HPNA model to an ethernet... asked if they sold the part. They said thay had it, it was $125 and made by 3Com. I questioned that info thinking that from what everyone says on this board, the ethernet mini pci is made by Actiontec. Upon further questioning it turns out that what they are selling is an adapter thet slides into the unit where the slot is on the back of the monitor.

Anyone familiar with this? What could slide in there and turn an HPNA into Ethernet???? ANyway I bought one since there is a 30 day return policy. I'll see if it works. That slot seems to be under the modem card.

10-27-2001 11:28:52

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) maposo
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Just guessing here... I know that tech support guys are not very helpful to explain details. My 5 cents are that they were trying to sell you an USB Ethernet Adapter... And the connectors behind the monitor would be the USB connectors. I don't know if the InstantAOL image has drivers to support this though - I would doubt that.
My suggestion: buy a 128 MB or bigger CompactFlash card and a CompactFlash drive (for your desktop), install a real OS on it (Linux Midori or Windows 98/ME). There are folks in other threads that have done that and they could help. Another option is to see if you have an IDE header in the motherboard (some units don't have it, so it is necessary to solder one - recommended only for skilled people) and plug a 2.5" notebook HD using an IOpener cable - HD's up to 12.5mm can fit where the modem is.
If you go this way you will have a small and capable PC that you can use to connect to the Internet (I'm connecting through my USB DSL modem on it), or use for some other lightweight tasks, like word processing, mp3 player, arcade games, kids games, etc.
10-27-2001 22:39:11

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) maposo
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I just tought on another possibility: They might have sold a HPNA-to-Ethernet bridge, but I'm not aware if 3com have this. I've seen Linksys before. If this is the case, I guess there is no issue with drivers in the OS image - the HPNA packets just bet bridget to Ethernet and vice-versa. Anyway, I still think $125 was kind of expensive for that. If you stick with HPNA you can buy PCI adapters for your desktop very cheap - $10 or $15 each. And for $125 you could have done the whole CompactFlash or HD solution anyway...
10-27-2001 22:49:36

New MessageRE:mini pci ethernet (modified 0 times) BigDog
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I was going to suggest a HPNA bridge, I bought one from http://www.buynetgear.com/searchresults.asp?dept_id=12 for $99 but now I see it's been increased to to $180 !!!

The only slot to offer any type of upgrade would be a USB device, I would expect Gateway was speaking of a 3COM USB ethernet adapter.

I would have to go with maposo on the conversion to a real OS, you will have a lot more fun with a differnent OS and you should come out with a little PC that can do more than what Instant AOL can offer. Even if you get the ethernet connectivity, as I said in my earlier post, you still need to run a second computer that actually connects to AOL then it bridges it to the GCT Instant AOL. From what I have heard it works fine until you try to use the real PC for anything like browsing the internet.

I am still doing IDE header soldering if yours needs it; which generaly runs about $35 total and then you add $8.00 for IDE cable, $100 for a 20gb IBM hard drive and add a little work on your part and you can run just about any OS and mini-pci card you want.

10-28-2001 21:08:39

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