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GCT won't boot -- help!
GCT is not booting, need advice.

New MessageGCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) xeroxmissile
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Hey everyone, I need some help: I started up my GCT today, after not
having done so in quite some time (couple of months), and it wasn't
able to boot. The device has an ide header and laptop hard drive
installed. The drive seems to be working, it sounds like it spins
and all. The gateway logo does not appear during boot, like it used
to. In fact, it seems like the video isn't coming up at all, that
the DSTN isn't getting anything (ie: power?). I hadn't really touched
it in a while, for various reasons, but finally got some time to
mess w/ it today, and was really surprised when this happened.
I hope someone out there can give me some advice. Thanks a lot!!!

ps: if not, maybe someone wants to buy a (possibly busted) GCT :)

11-16-2003 21:49:28

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 1 times) huhman
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did you check all the connections? just making sure. if you are unable to fix it i'm willing to buy it for a resonable price.
11-17-2003 17:47:33

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) MOOKIE
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Did you adjust the screen brightness knob (on the bottom of the screen)???
11-17-2003 18:32:28

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) xeroxmissile
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Hi ppl, thanks for the replies...

Yes, I tried checking most of the connections, but like I said,
the problem isn't a result of tinkering, or even moving the
GCT around. Just turned it on one day after having left it
sit around for a couple of months.
Also, I did try the brightness knob (that was the first thing
I tried, actually). The display doesnt seem to power up at
all. Even with the brightness turned all the way down (i
think) there was a bit of a glow around the edges. There's
nothing now. Also, It doesnt look like its just the DSTN
that died, since the machine doesn't go through the boot
process and start the OS. It turns on, the hard drive spins
up, but it just stops there. Could faulty RAM be an issue?

Is there any way the BIOS could've gotten fried somehow?

I think I'm a very competent user/troubleshooter/tinkerer,
but I admit that I feel a little lost when approaching the
GCT, cuz it seems like a strange little piece of hardware.

Again, thanks for the replies. I'd really like to resurrect
this poor thing.

11-17-2003 23:58:59

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) MOOKIE
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Could be a dead BIOS battery. Pop out that lttle watch-battery and go get another. That should solve the problem.
11-19-2003 19:07:29

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) xeroxmissile
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hey MOOKIE, thanks for the advice - good thinking. I read your post
and switched out the battery from another machine to put in the
GCT, powered it up, but no go. The unit still doesnt boot the os
or give any indication that its doing anything at all, except powering
up. I'll try another battery just to make sure, but it doesnt look
like thats the problem. Thanks anyway!
11-19-2003 21:46:07

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) Sciallo
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Seems like I have the same problem here, with the difference that I don't have any glow on the side of the screen either.

Here's what happened and possible causes:

I got a car power adapter a Gateway solo 19v.

I took it out to the car just to test it, connected it, with the engine off. The plugs both at the GCT and the lighter were kind of lose, had to giggle them to get a contact, figured I'll fix that. I fired it up and it started booting fine. As it was booting I wanted to try turn the car on. As I expected it started rebooting since the starter dropped the voltage too low. I've read about others having the IOpener in the car and having the same problem. Didn't sound like it could damage the electronics though. In the future I was planning on adding a sevond little battery, Motorcicle style with a switching circuit that would insulate it from the rest of the car unless the alternator was charging positively.

Long story short: It never "finished" rebooting. It went off and never came back on. The light goes on, tester shows power in the few places I could think of trying (Suggestions welcome) the HD spins but I don't hear heads noise. I tried using the sandisk instead and nothing changes. The power button's light goes on and the button behaves normally (It shuts off if I hold it ~10 secs) when off the ligh is still on but much dimmer, just like before.

Possible causes I can think of:
- I was stupid enough to try starting the car as it was just booting up. Could I have hit it right during BIOS POST and could that have fried the bios? I've seen many posts from people asking for a copy of the bios but never positive answers. Is it possible to swap the bios? does badflash have the GCT bios? or would the "soldered on" bios chip the one possibly screwed?

- I had a mod inthere that could have "lost" some tiny particles of solder, I looked the best I could and didn't see any, my next step is to buy a good magnifying lens and look again.

- vibration could have caused the plugs to do some weird "fast connect disconnect" and that could mess it up??

Don't know what else to think. I really doubt that there could have been a spike high enough to fry the thing, mine came with a 24V power supply and has no problem with that or with an IOpener PS, this thing seems to be pretty flexible on input voltage.

I did try other things already suggested, different battery and I tried leaving the battery out ('bout 10 - 15 min), no success.

I'm just about to cry, I'd love to say it's not fried, but really don't know what to try next. Please help ;(

11-19-2003 22:09:16

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) MOOKIE
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Sciallo -- Sounds like you fried something. Probably just the screen or video chip. Starting the car in mid-boot is definitely not a good thing.

Xeroxmissile -- How is the hard drive installed? Did it shift position and short out something on the motherboard? I did that with a Virgin Webplayer once and it killed one of the video chips.

To Both of You:
MAYBE IT IS BOOTING and you just can't see it because the screen is dead. Is there any way you can connect the GCT to a network and the connect to the GCT? I have RealVNC server running on mine so I can connect to it, see what is on the screen and take control.


Adam@MOOKIE
11-20-2003 11:16:37

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) Sciallo
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MOOKIE: I really don't think it's booting, I would hear the hard drive "grinding away"... I have debian linux installed on it and it's set to bring up wireless network and ssh server on boot so I'd be able to ssh into it from the network (or at least ping it anyway), I'll try that, but I'm pretty sure if it was booting I would hear much more "grinding" than I do.
11-20-2003 18:20:55

New MessageRE:GCT won't boot -- help! (modified 0 times) BigDog
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Make yourself a VGA out using the 10 pin connecter near the CPU, do a search in this section and the i-opener for the pinouts, that way you can see if it's LCD related or a more major failure. I had a couple GCT's that their LCD just went bad but the rest of it worked.

Drop the HD and install the CF, there is less power required to power up, some 2.5" hard drives have been known to cause boot/powerup problems because they pull too much power.

If using the hard drive be sure that the cable is good, I have seen boot problems when a faulty IDE cable is concerned so definatly change the IDE cable and be sure it's seated properly.

and the worse case, if there hasn't been mod's done on it, insert the orginal CF, call Gateway and see if it's still under warrenty; I have done this to two GCT's that went bad including one that had a IDE header installed after it left the realms of Gateway. :)

11-21-2003 12:13:13

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