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CN6, 40-pin floppy header?
CN6, 40-pin floppy header?

New MessageCN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) chris_cc
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Does anyone know if CN6, the 40-pin header just above the processor is for a floppy drive? Does anyone have a Gateway floppy drive from a laptop to see if the connector matches up?

Having a floppy drive would be very helpful in doing Linux net installs.

-Chris

01-08-2004 15:01:18

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) BigDog
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It's PS/2 keyboarb/mouse and printer port...

The PS/2 ports require some mods to get working (resister pack and lifting three pins on the controller chip, if you do a search you will find codeman's pinout on them.... doing the mode will disable the wireless keyboard/mouse. (or if you do what I did and mess up, it disables both wireless and PS/2!!)

No floppy unfortunatly, I have succesfully got a hard drive and booting cdrom drive to work; had to make a custom length csel ide cable with the hard drive as master and cd drive as slave.

01-08-2004 15:16:17

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) chris_cc
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Well that's excatly what I need, a cd-rom drive in this thing! Right now I have a hard drive that has jumpers for master/slave/cable select but no way to install any software.

Are you using a laptop cd-rom or a desktop ide cd-rom? Do you need an adapter? Would you be willing to sell me one of these CSEL custom cables so I can finally install software on my GCT?

-Chris

01-08-2004 16:02:44

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) Sciallo
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An easier option is to install the os on your desktop computer and move the hard drive, Windows would then rebuild the drivers database, you might want to map a network drive (cdrom from a "real" computer) before moving the hard drive in case you're asked for the Win cd for drivers, also put the drivers for your network card on the hard drive before moving it. Linux is pretty straight forward: I went with a debian net install, apt-get all I needed to recompile the kernel, got the kernel sources and recompiled using chaezewhiz config file as a base, while you're at it patching with the preempt patch would be a good idea. Also grab the Xfree config file from chaezewhiz's site. After that it's all network :)

Yoo might want to set up lilo to be able to use either the original kernel setup or the newly compiled one in case you need to move the hard drive back to the desktop machine (for example to compile something big).

Have fun!


"Your mouse has moved. You must now restart windows for the changes to take effect. [OK]"
01-09-2004 06:52:38

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) chris_cc
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In the past, I've tried installing Windows onto the drive in my desktop computer any moving the drive over to the GCT. Unless the chipset is the same in both machines, Windows will blue screen. A better approach would be to partition the drive with the first partition being bootable and active (roughly 700MB) and the second partition being the rest of your drive. Copy over dos system files and then copy the contents of the Windows CD on the the first partition. Connect the drive to the GCT and run setup to install Windows.


I am still confused on how you did a Debian net install on the GCT. How did you get the linux kernel loaded to start the install without a cd or floppy drive? Did you perform the net install on another computer first, and then moved the drive to the GCT?

01-09-2004 09:48:07

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) BigDog
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Connecting a cdrom and hd to the GCT I made a csel cable which I don't recall the exact cable lines but it requires that a slave device has a certain line grounded, while the master device has that same line +5 volts; I did this becasue the laptop cdrom I was using could only be set as slave using csel.... You can get laptop cdrom that allow slave/master selection by say a switch or jumper. now another item you need is a 44 pin to laptop 50 pin connecter, I had one so that's why I used a laptop cdrom drive.

I am all out of 44 pin ide cable making supplies and sold the cdrom 44 pin adapter to someone I fixed up with a GCT with with the help of a couple male 44 line ide cable made a external connecter allowing the drive to be taken on and off (non-hotswapable).

might check with Badflash to get a custom IDE cable with 3 connecter, you can use a exacto knife to split the ide cable lines and go from there in making a csel ide cable, he might even be able to send you a complete cable but I can't say for sure.

Here's a prior message....
CF Card / Hard Drive

were I posted:


The CF slot is wired for master cable select (CSEL), you can install a hard drive if you have jumpers on the drive to make it cable select and the hard drive will be slave instead of master. CSEL involves a line 28 of the 40 or 44 pin IDE cable to either be grounded or +5 volts, depending on the charge the device is either slave (ground) or master (+5volts); this is usually involved in either the IDE interface or the a modified cable. I made such a special cable to connect a laptop cdrom drive and IDE hard drive togather since the cdrom drive I was using was set to use CSEL only and could not be configured by jumpers as a slave device. The big issue is that you would need to cut the line 28 on the standard IDE interface and line 38 on the CF interface from it's source were ever it's getting either the ground or +5 volts WARNING!!! if you don't, you will fry the board since you will putting 5 volts directly to ground.

01-09-2004 11:22:02

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) gr8_brit
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No, I think CN6 is for the TFT panel header as described by jmayes in the 'TFT I did it' thread.

Cheers,


gr8_brit
01-15-2004 09:35:17

New MessageRE:CN6, 40-pin floppy header? (modified 0 times) BigDog
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Got me on that one, I didn't have a board in front of me when I opened my mouth!!

CN15 by the mini-pci slot was the one I was thinking of, yes CN6 is the TFT connection...

$20,000 dollar question... were can you get the ribbon/cable with the matching connector for CN6 ? and what is the 30 pin edge connector which I fail to see the CN label for (to the left of the CPU and above CN15 2mm header? That's the one that's buggin me!

FYI - I have been in the bios setup of a GCT that would allow it and there is no referance to a floppy, even if there was a basic IO spot to connect a floppy, there would be no bios support of it unless the bios would be modified which being that it's a Phoenix bios, that's most unlikely.

The boot options are to boot from HD, CDROM and Network if my memory holds right, fortunatly the CDROM option is first in the boot order so at least you do have that ability by default.

01-15-2004 18:06:13

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