I-Appliance BBS The Official Source for Internet Appliance Upgrades and Mods BBS Main List | Sign In | Sign Up | Search | Help | Linux-Hacker.net Reply to Thread | Printer |

Home / Other I-Appliances / Gateway/AOL Connected Touch Pad Backing up the Compact Flash

Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Is there a easy way to back up the boot image on the orginal compact flash? I really would like to back it up before a destroy it, of course Win98 with a Sandisk USB reader thinks that the CF needs formating. Will I need Linux to backup the Midori (or whatever it's called) Will Dolly work for this? 05-10-2001 17:44:12

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) Ricko73 Profile | Email Midori is just a "flavor" (distribution) of Linux. The way it works will be pretty much the same as any other old linux system, with the exception of being "crammed" onto the CF card. What this does is in essense zip the OS and other software so that more software can fit in a smaller location then be expanded upon opening. I'll know more tomorrow (provided UPS can handle my instruction about dropping this thing off at work...AND my ide to CF card interface card comes in the mail). What I'm guessing our best bet is to mount this device as a drive in linux. If anyone figures out what type of partition is used, pass that information on. If not I'll just fdisk the thing *under Linux*, bc Windows is just going to say "non Dos Partition". (funny how they still call it dos...) Ricko 05-10-2001 19:05:51

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email I was able to make an .img using some unix tools, but I wasn't able to export it back to the CF it seems there are four partitions in there... 05-10-2001 19:34:22

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile Norton/Symantec's Ghost should handle it fine. Copying "drive" to "image file" should handle the four partitions fine. If I only had one of those IDE -> CF adapters right now... 05-11-2001 00:07:57

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email But the Win9x doesnt' recognize the format or partitions, how is Ghost going to read it?? 05-11-2001 10:13:50

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile I don't know how it works, I just know that it does. I regularly use Ghost from DOS to back up my NTFS partition. I have also backed up Linux and HPFS partitions this way. Ghost and Partition Magic share my top spot in valuable PC applications. 05-11-2001 10:38:35

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) smee Profile The Ghost documentation says it handles "such and such" Linux partitions. I haven't tried it by I have no reason to believe it wouldn't work. 05-11-2001 10:55:06

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Need to try that. Have you tried restoring them after that ? How well would it handle 4 small 8mb partitions ? DriveImage wouldn't work since it's dos based and I'm not aware of CF adapters being recognized by the BIOS, but I could be wrong. 05-11-2001 14:50:56

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Got a copy of Norton Ghost 2000 personal ed. & got it to work and made a drive image. The weird thing was that it took Windows ME to do it as Windows ME recognized the partitions as non-dos and Win98 SE would't even see the partitions. Anyone know how to make a Sandisk bootable? I have been working on it for the last few hours; everytime I get close I get either disk i/o errors or non-system disk. I used Ranish to make the partition active and a Sandisk SDDR-31 reader/writer on another PC to do the fdisk'en & formating. FYI - I think I know why we can't get into the bios, I don't believe there is a ALT key on the wireless keyboard, at least so far I can't get CTRL-ALT-DEL to re-boot. And the 10pin connecter at CN3 near the CPU is I belive a VGA monitor connecter just like the iopener, at least when I connected a VGA cable that I made for one of my iopeners, the VGA monitor went active as it tried to boot but no image, except on the LCD. I suspect that there is an option in bios to enable both LCD and CRT but LCD is the only output enabled by default. Several of the IBM Thinkpads are this way. 05-11-2001 17:24:10

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Just a thought but did you try sys x: ? A couple of weeks ago it saved what little was left of my night after trying every possible thing on my webplayer. The other thing you could try is fdisk \mbr while you're IN the CF directory, i.e. have the x: prompt where your CF flash is. 05-11-2001 17:38:30

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I tried SYS x: and the mbr switch on fdisk, I think the problem is that the CF gets init in LBA mode and the GTC is detecting in in normal mode. I have given up for today on the CF, I am pretty sure will need a IDE 2 CF adapter to get it right, the Sandisk reader tries to be too nice and not burden me with the disk geometry. I am going at it in a different way now, I going to see if the floppy controller is enabled, I have a notebook floppy that I was going to hack for my webplayer that I am going to try to hook up the 26 pin CN15, I will post my results as soon as I get Kray's notes on the floppy pinouts off his website that he did for the webplayer. Once I get it booted, I have a old DOS diagnostic program that I can detect and test the keyboard for all the proper keys. Excuse me while I trace 26 pins on my floppy drive..... 05-11-2001 18:57:09

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Well I got my IDE CF adapters, I still can't restore the Ghost disk image I made from the orginal CF, it still tells me there isn't enought space on target drive!!! 05-23-2001 15:23:41

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) phantasm Profile | Email Not sure about using windows, but the utility used to pack everything on there is packcramfs (Incidently the same utility used to extract its filesystem minus partitions 1 and 2). Pack cramfs comes with the Midori Linux build kit (http://midori.transmeta.com) Details for the cramfs is quite interesting, its not the whole file system compressed as one, but each file compressed individually, and Decompressed into either the SODIMM or SDRAM as it needs to run. ~Phantasm 05-24-2001 20:57:25

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I have a 8 drive IDE disk duplicator at work, I'm going to try that, Norton Ghost does a disk image of a loaded 32mb CF and then when I try to write to another 32mb CF it tells me there isn't enough space !! AAAAAhhhhhhhh! !!! (Ghost worked fine until Norton bought it!!) 05-25-2001 04:44:07

RE:Backing up the Compact Flash (modified 0 times) ctplinux Profile Using dd on unix seems to work, I was able to save the 32m standard image to disk and restore it to a 64m card. 06-08-2001 18:56:16

Reply to Thread | Printer | All times are PST Powered by UltraBoard v1.62

I-Appliance BBS General - NEWS, Breaking NEWS - linux-hacker.net BBS on CD Questions - User Groups in Your Town - E-Bay, Yahoo Auction LINKS ONLY (MODERATED) - Jokes & Humor - usdtv box I-Opener Areas - I-Opener General Posts - I-Opener Technical Stuff - I-Opener Technical Info Reference (MODERATED) WebSurfer Areas - WebSurfer General Posts - WebSurfer Technical Stuff - WebSurfer Technical Info Reference (MODERATED) Other I-Appliances - Virgin Webplayer - WebPal - MailStation - 3Com Audrey - ThinkNIC / Oracle NIC - Gateway/AOL Connected Touch Pad - Philips/AOL-TV - ACER NT-150 STB - MSN Companion - Compaq IA - Emachines IA - IBM NetVista IA - Intel dot.station - MSNTV2 Network Computers - Fujitsu-Siemens Scovery Linux Net Computers - GallantWeb Server Consoles - Dreamcast - xbox hacking Web Pads - Epods One General Post - Panasonic CF-01 - Fujitsu Stylistic 1200 - Cybiko Thin Clients - Thin Clients DigitalVideoRecorders - DTV Recorders, Replay, TiVo, Etc... - Tivo Hacks Linux - Midori Linux General Board - ITX MotherBoards Single Board Computers - Earth Computers mARMalade Elite Member Area MISC Areas - The Swap Meet WE TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY TRANSACTION HERE AND NO COMMERCIAL POST PERIOD !!! - Wireless Net - Cameras - Robotics - Routers/Gateways - Mattel JuiceBox