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New MessageLosing usb network, acpi issue? (modified 0 times) wkearney99
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Anyone out there using a USB wifi network adapter on their GCT while running 98? Mine works fine for a while and then loses it's network. I think it corresponds to something being powered off or otherwise getting lost due to idle time. Can't be sure yet but before I debug the mess I figured its worth asking here.

The machine is configued, via the power control panel, to never standby, shut the drive down after a minute and the monitor after 3.

There appear to be no other places in the config options for the network or usb devices that would affect power settings. Am I missing something?

These units are being used as touchscreens for audio and home control. Using suspend or standy mode really isn't desired since it'd slow down the initial response from sleep.

Anyone else run into this sort of trouble?

01-02-2005 19:13:38

New MessageRE:Losing usb network, acpi issue? (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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i'm in the same boat. thinking linux is the way to go. it's alot easire now a days to find a good distro. and drivers.

now, if i only knew how to compile a kernel then i'd be good. lol ;)-

01-04-2005 00:17:12

New MessageRE:Losing usb network, acpi issue? (modified 0 times) eBoyDog
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If the USB is of issue, why not use the the mini-pci ??

The cards are cheap, they work better and are more relieable not to mention you don't give up a USB port.

Win 98's support of USB is shaky at the best with WinME being a little better and I thought there were finally found drivers for the touchscreen for WinXP.

Either way esp if you are considering Linux, the mini pci is going to be better supported anyhow.

For cards to assure they work, look for Gateway mini PCI's such as the ton found eBay.

01-05-2005 16:01:35

New MessageRE:Losing usb network, acpi issue? (modified 0 times) wkearney99
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Availability and price often makes USB a considerably more attractive solution that mini-PCI, especially for wireless. Internal wireless is a fine idea but TRY finding those little connectors the cards use for antennae and a decent internal setup. Then try finding the /correct/ incantation of drivers for them. I gave up on both counts. I'm sure the driver problem had everything to do with the card but I'm not gambling with another one (given the woes I've had with Broadcom 802.11g cards from Dell it's not something I want to repeat)

Linux is not the way to go if the software you want to use isn't available for it. There's no NetRemote and Girder for linux. Sure, LIRC has possibilites but it doesn't support the USB-UIRT I've got. And I have no spare serial ports or a parallel port for what it DOES support anyway. Fiddling around with rdesktop or vnc for remote terminal support is far too much of a pain in the ass and don't get me started on netbooting.

I managed to get 98 running on a 340mb microdrive (not that's not uppercased "Microdrive"... don't get me started on THAT hassle). Works reasonably well. Word of advice, it appears the DMDM microdrives are the only ones the GCT supports properly. Don't know why. I've got a 512mb DMCS type microdrive that'll go back on eBay eventually since it won't work on the GCT.

If people think I'm being wordy here, think "search engine" and how it might help the next poor bastard trying all this stuff.

I think I've solved the loss of network problem. I manually pulled down each power profile and set them all to the same values. No standby, 5 minute screen and 3 minute drive power-down. Then I grabbed a DPMS screensaver. Now it comes back to life without having lost the network.

This doesn't 'solve' the problem but it perhaps shines line on where the trouble lies. It would appear that when coming out of standby (which might have been what the machine throught it was doing) doesn't properly re-enable the NetGear WG111 USB unit. The device is present and all software save for the TCP stack thinks it's alive. Go figure.

USB under linux is worse than 98. Try using devices that actually expect to WRITE reliably. They still have a ways to go apparently. I'm sure they'll get around to it eventually but I've not time to jump through to insane hoops of kernel modules and what not to get it all working on these obsolete GCT units. I've done my fair share of kernel compiles so it's not like I don't know HOW to do it. The trouble is the various pieces of the puzzle often don't work properly. Anyway, linux is great for many things and I use it for a mail/file server here.

So my solution to the standby problem was to make sure the various places the OS can be configured for it were all told NOT to use standby. Standby would be nice, I suppose, but if it doesn't work I'm not losing any more time over it.

01-05-2005 17:23:17

New MessageRE:Losing usb network, acpi issue? (modified 0 times) sruchris
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I ended up buying a mini-pci non-wireless network card for my hpna GCT. The card gets detected, but unless you have the tiny 4-pin (I think) wire that connects the card to the RJ-45 connector, it won't work.

Has anyone else found success in using a mini-pci non-wireless network card?

-Chris

01-19-2005 12:22:28

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