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Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ????

New MessageAnyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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HI All,


Again, I'm not sure how much traffic this thread gets but, I'm working on an XPe image for this unit.

I've started and am working thru the pitfalls of trying to boot the system successfully without any BSOD's ;)

Just to gauge how useful anyone finds this, post here with your thoughts and what would be nice to have supported.

I know others are using Linux on the unit, but my wife won't like Linux so my intent on the initial version is to make a thin client with:

email, internet, wireless (based on Dlink DWL-520 pci card).

Once this works, the possibilities are limitless.

At least minimal for starters, then we can add components as needed.

I have a 256MB flash that I will be testing with.

Let me know your thoughts,

I'll be back in a week or so with my progress.

02-15-2006 10:18:08

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) toganet
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I'm interested -- in fact, I was thinking of starting to work on this myself. Problem I have right now is that the CF card that was in my GCT went bad, and so I took it apart to put in a new one. While it was apart, my cat chewed through the 4-wire ribbon cable on the left side. Anyone know what that goes to? Is it for the touchscreen? Where can I get a new one or make a new one?
02-16-2006 23:09:35

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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I don't have a unit in front of me, but if I recall correctly it controls the LCD contrast.

I'll check this evening for the exact cable and repost if it's not for that.

Good to hear your interested, I was able to run ta.exe from a bootable CF version (DOS bootdisk) on the unit.

I'm in the process of making a build that will init my USB KB so I can work in a console and execute tap.

I'll keep everyone posted...

Lets see how much traffic we get here with this little project!

02-17-2006 08:01:42

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) keith721
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I'd be interested. I'd prefer DamnSmallLinux, but I've got memory and a CF MicroDrive to use, so XPe shouldn't be an issue.
02-17-2006 21:09:21

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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Have you tried to install the DamnSmallLinux iso cd to the CF?

That shouldn't be that bid a deal, at least to get it to boot, then the build and config can be altered to meet the GCT H/W.

02-18-2006 14:22:28

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mschel
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I would be interested in an XPe image as well.

BTW, DSL linux does work well with the GCT. I just installed it on another system (with a CF2IDE adapter) using the install to HD option, then moved the compact flash card to the GCT. The touchscreen does not work because it does not use a standard X server but I think that can be fixed. It appears that installing the full XF86 and modifying it to work with a touchscreen would work but I just have not had the time to mess with it further.

If anyone has a working DSL image with touchscreen working that would be very much appreciated as well as the XPe one, I have 3 of these GCTs to mess with.

As well, if anyone knows of a source for any linux images for the GCT (midori included) I would love to get ahold of them. All I have found is an ancient midori image with very little in the way of packages loaded.

02-18-2006 19:29:36

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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opensource.aol.com has some midori & aol images for the GCT.

However, I have for now given up on linux on the touchpad because the one 32mb image i did find of midori that worked, was very limited and didn't have support for my usb wifi adapter.

Now i'm having problems trying to boot to a CF card for a windows 98 installation. I tried a format I: /s, then stuck the card in the GCT, and I get "Missing Operating System" :(

02-19-2006 17:35:31

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) dgreenb
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Hey mschel, I'm trying to get a dsl build installed, but am going a slightly different route. I don't have a ide-to-cf adaptor, and have been trying to do it all through usb. I can at least get the dsl usb drive working, but not if I try to install to HD -- telling the install program to go to the usb cf. Do you know if the hd install only works to an ide drive?

Or, can you post (or send) an image of your dsl install? It's a good thing the weather's been so crappy, or I'd feel bad about staying in all weekend working on this...

-Dave

02-19-2006 22:20:22

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mschel
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mscdex: I have tried at least one of the open aol images but it doesn't seem to support any of the usb network adapters I have here. BTW, It sounds like you might have to make the install partition "active" in fdisk.

dgreenb: I am not sure on the USB install of DSL but the CF2IDE adapters are a couple of bucks including shipping on ebay. I can post the image but it will be at least a week before I will have the time.. I have been traveling almost constantly for work these days :(

Another interesting option: Vmware server is now free, you could setup the usb-cf adapter as a raw drive and try it that way.

Will this board accept large image files for upload?

02-20-2006 00:01:10

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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Problem is, it is set to active in fdisk. It's very strange. I ordered a CF->IDE adapter the other night, hopefully that will remedy whatever wierd issue I'm having.
02-20-2006 13:07:43

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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Ok, somehow I managed to get a different error now. I get the invalid system disk error even though I do a format D: /s or sys D:

o_O

02-20-2006 15:11:34

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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MSCDEX: a CF to IDE adapter will definitely fix your problem.

Win XP will see the CF card as removable device rather than a fixed disk.

The problem is the MBR is not dbeing written properly.

Once you boot to the CF your can do whatever you like, boot to a bootdisk, run bootprep, format ?: /S, they'll all work.

Once you're done I'd recommend saving your MBR to a file, that way if you ever want to do this to anoth4er card, you just rewrite the MBR and not have to fudge around with booting to CF and redoing the whole procedure.

02-20-2006 16:32:41

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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The CF->IDE adapter did the trick. How's the XP Embedded image coming?
02-25-2006 13:19:48

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) zakwhitak
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I'm all about getting an embedded image for the GCT....I've got the embedded studio installed on my machine but I haven't spent any time with it. If you need a hand, let me know!
02-26-2006 15:22:47

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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Ok, I've been messing around with XPe for a good while today and trying to see if I can get something going. I will let you all know if I get something working.
02-26-2006 17:53:22

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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Ok, at first I was getting blue screens but after reading up on some posts in the xp embedded newsgroup via google groups, I changed some of the components inside the Target Designer and got a booting image. However, I found out after I completed the FBA that I guess I forgot to add standard components such as start menu items and whatnot :P

The image as it is now without those standard components is about 150mb. I will report back again after I am able to test out some of the various hardware drivers for modem, sound, video, etc.

02-27-2006 15:11:59

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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Good news MSCDEX,

I managed to blow 3 CAPS on my unit, it still starts up but it is difficult to view the screen output.

Are you able to get USB mouse and KB to work?

I am unable to get these to work properly and am hoping it has to dowith the CAPS.

I'll be replacing them on the weekend.

I am able to boot to GUI environment but unable to get wireless networking to work properly as of yet.

I'll keep posting my results as I get some time to work on this.

02-28-2006 08:13:25

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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forumworx, sorry to hear about your GCT!

I do not have USB mice or keyboard here to test it with, but I was reading a post the other day on the xp embedded newsgroup detailing exactly what components you need to get usb keyboards and mice working. I've just been using the original Gateway IR keyboard.

So far I have gotten a pretty good, fully functional OS. At the moment the image is 304mb uncompressed, however I am trying to cut it down further where I can. I haven't tried the modem yet, as it appears XPe was not able to detect the modem successfully (even though the it loaded the right component in the Target Designer). I will be messing with the touchscreen drivers and see what I can get rolling.

As far as wireless goes, I was successfully able to get my D-Link G122 A2 usb wireless adapter working just fine with the d-link drivers.

Also, anyone know of a decent freeware key remapper that works with XP? I had used the one from the Windows 95 Kernel Toys when I had Windows 98SE installed on the GCT. But obviously it will not work on NT/2000/XP.

02-28-2006 16:06:55

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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MSCDEX, so I understand you correctly.

You're using the IR keyboard under XPe? If so, where'd you get the drivers? Can you direct me?

02-28-2006 19:39:37

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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All I did was run ta.exe on the GCT (made a quick bootable partition on the CF card that brought me to a DOS prompt), and it gave me the PMQ file to import into the Target Designer and it loaded all the drivers for what it found on the GCT (although like I said, I had to disable the ACPI and ALi IDE Controller). The component that it chose based on that PMQ file was just the normal Standard PC 101-Key Keyboard, nothing special. It must be included in XP (ie no extra drivers needed).

I'm still having trouble figuring how to install the touchscreen driver :\
(There's a number of unknown devices listed under "Other Devices" in the Device Mgr, but not sure if the touchscreen is any of those or not)

02-28-2006 21:45:16

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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I just got an email back from the people that design the MK712 chip, and they told me they "do not provide device drivers for that chip."

I have the 2000/XP drivers from the FIC Aquapad, but there is no setup file, just an INF file, the driver files, and a "runtsd.exe" file. I right-clicked on the inf to install it, but it did not resolve any of the "unknown devices" in my device manager, and it isn't listed anywhere in the device manager. I read in an old thread in this forum that someone got the Aquapad (I believe) drivers working on the GCT in XP.

Does anyone who still frequents this board still have the working XP touchscreen drivers or knows where I can get them (and possibly have instructions on how to get them to work) ?

03-01-2006 21:25:01

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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MSCDEX,

Not clear on what you said.

Did you use a keyboard to run ta.exe or setup a batch file to run it automatically on the unit?

If you did use a KB, which one was it? IR, USB, magic KB ;)

03-02-2006 22:41:51

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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I only have the IR keyboard to use on the GCT. I guess the BIOS has built-in support for the IR keyboard, as I didn't need any special drivers to run the ta.exe from DOS from my CF card. I didn't use any batch files, just typed it in via the keyboard to run it.

Also, if anyone still reading this forum that has xp pro installed on their GCT could run tap.exe and either post their devices.pmq or email it to me, that might help me with the touchscreen (tap.exe is better than ta.exe, but it can only run within NT/2000/XP).

03-03-2006 01:46:58

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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Thanks for the heads up, i didn't bother using the IR KB since I thought it would need Driver support, but I should have been smarter than that, normally the KB is accessible from POST, so your theory of BIOS support is correct.

I'll try to fudge around tonight, I'm having a hard time replacing CAPS ;).

BTW, you can run tap on your XPe image, you don't need XP or any other flavour of Win OS.

Although, if someone has XP running on this betsy with driver support for the Touchscreen, we could use the driver and create a new component for it.

03-08-2006 10:02:23

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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I tried running tap on one of my XPe builds, but didn't help much (in other words, no touchscreen found). After a number of email exchanges between myself and gateway and then myself and ICST, what it boils down to is there is no way to obtain drivers from either Gateway (as they used some OEM in the Asia to manufacture the hardware for them) or ICST (who for some reason will not release an XP driver for their touchscreen controller, even if I were to pay for it).

I've recently been in touch with BigDog, and the consensus there is that no XP touchscreen driver was ever found. So the outlook for a decent XPe build as far as having a working touchscreen is very grim.

I finally gave in and installed Windows ME to my CF card, just so I could have a working touchscreen, but also have the latest Windows OS possible (although I cannot stand the instability of pre-2000 Windows OSes).

If only there was a way to port the linux touchscreen driver over to Windows (XP)... :(

03-09-2006 12:19:35

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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mscdex,

Does the IR keyboard work under WinME?

Are you aware if the IR keyboard has driver support under XP / XP embedded?

Thx,

03-13-2006 16:45:09

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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IR keyboard works just fine under OS i've installed on the GCT: Win98SE, WinXPe, WinME. I didn't have to load any special drivers or anything, just worked automatically ;)
03-15-2006 20:32:25

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) forumworx
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That's awesome, good to know, I was working with a USB KB and Mouse thinking the IR wouldn't work out of the box.

Thanks

03-16-2006 11:49:13

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) choca
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Hi to all, i'm no developer and i dont even understand much of linux either, though i hav an aquapad and i would like to install Win2k on it, i think its possible could u tell me wat to do or least point in some web pages where i can gather some information about this. thx for listening.
04-30-2006 10:18:42

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) mscdex
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I don't know much about the details of the Aquapad, but as long as you can hook up a hard drive to the aquapad, or get a large enough CF drive and have a way to do the installation on the aquapad itself, you should be able to use win2k just fine. The only thing they may not work is the touchscreen (which IIRC, it is the same TS used on the GCT, which has no 2k/XP drivers).
04-30-2006 13:54:16

New MessageRE:Anyone interested in a Windows XP Embedded image for the Gateway Connected Touchpad ???? (modified 0 times) strangerdanger
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If you're still working on this project, here's a page that has drivers for XP, hopefully one of these touchscreen drivers can help you out.

If you get this to work, I'd love to have a copy of the image.

http://forums.broke-off.com/index.php?showtopic=100

09-30-2006 22:17:12

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