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New MessagePop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) wordsmith
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It just dawned on me. When you remove the CMOS battery, you will lose all you "Set" configurations on the BIOS. Please tell me I'm wrong on this one:

What happens when you pull the battery out? Maybe the settings ARN'T written to the BIOS chip. And could be reset by yanking the battery.

I'm away from my GCT right now, could someone try?

One more thing, when I first turned on my GCT the AOL date was: Jan 23, 1988. But when I played with it, I could only go down to the year 2000 and up to 2100.


* WordsmitH
05-13-2001 23:55:58

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) BigDog
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I tried, didn't appear to help.....
05-14-2001 05:11:47

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Man, that date thing sucks....I wanted to leave this to my Great-grandchildren so they could see what hardware was like "in the good ol' days"
05-14-2001 08:41:32

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) geekgranny
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Info on discharging CMOS...

On many PCs CMOS RAM can be cleared by unplugging the battery and the power supply from the motherboard and waiting for anywhere from an hour or two to a DAY or TWO. It is necessary to unplug the power supply because capacitors in the power supply can hold a charge for up to SEVERAL DAYS. The purpose of the battery on the motherboard is just to hold a voltage on the CMOS RAM to keep the values stored there.

See article.. http://www.firmware.com/support/bios/cmosclr.htm

I'm suffering from pinched never in neck right now so can't stay up long enough to crack er open. I have heard of it taking many, many, hours sometimes.


"Ah crapola....sorry for the multiple posts..." (Greenspark)
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05-14-2001 21:56:12

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) BigDog
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I found this suggestion, anyone brave enough to try it ??

http://www.firmware.com/support/bios/cmosclr.htm


Part of the page from there:

When CMOS RAM loses power, a bit is set to indicate this, which should cause the BIOS to detect that the CMOS RAM is invalid and will normally result in the loading of default values.

The same results can be obtained by using a simple DEBUG script to invalidate CMOS RAM. This may be much more convenient than shorting pins on a chip in cases where it is possible to boot to a DOS prompt to run DEBUG.

Here is a DEBUG script to invalidate CMOS RAM. This should work on all AT motherboards. (XT systems do not have CMOS RAM).

A:\>DEBUG
- o 70 2E
- o 71 FF
- q (Quits to DOS)

After clearing CMOS RAM we would usually get some kind of error message on bootup such as CMOS Battery Dead, Clock Chip Lost Power, or maybe just CMOS Checksum Invalid, and default values should be loaded.
The loading of default values after invalidating CMOS RAM is usually more thorough than the loading of default values by choosing the option to load default values in CMOS setup.

05-15-2001 10:26:58

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) BigDog
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OK, I tried this on my computer at work, a Pentium III 500 with and Intel BX2 motherboard that has a Phoenix bios it worked.

Under Win98, I opened a DOS box and ran the two commands in debug, then shut down. When I restarted I had a Invalid Checksum error prompting me to F1 to continue or F2 to enter setup.

OK, who wants to try it first??

05-15-2001 10:57:14

New MessageRE:Pop the GCT Cherry? CMOS Battery (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Wow, just tried it on my bench box and IT WORKED! Alas, I dont have the IDE header soldered on right now
Anyone else wanna have a go at it?
-wheee!-
05-15-2001 12:28:56

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