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Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wordsmith Profile Very easy to do if you already own a WebPlayer and Partition Magic. Set the card to Primary, and copy the files from the DOC in the WebPlayer to the CF Via USB CF Adapter. Pop it in the GCT and there you go. I put the drivers on it also, everything works great. OS's Installed By Me So Far: Windows 98se Windows ME Windows98Lite I will be doing FreeBSD Shortly when I finish my classes this year. Big programming project that I really dont want to do at this point. Thanks for all your help you guys! I mean it. * WordsmitH 05-16-2001 22:57:50

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Hum...you make it sound easy, but I've spent the best part of the evening trying to replicate that CF install using the Webplayer image and it's a major headache, in case someone else wants to go down that route... First you need to copy a bunch of windows cabs to the CF: base5,catalog3, driver11, driver12, driver20 and serial.vxd. Then you'll probably need to run drivespace to increase the space allocated to the compressed disc on the CF. I had to anyway. In spite of all my efforts, I'm stuck on the ALiM1533 PCI to ISA adapter. And you certainly didn't install Win98se or WinME on the CF...I suppose you mean the HD... Be more specific in the future, it's not much help if not ! 05-17-2001 23:50:57

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Ok add, ky.sys, serialui.dll, driver14.cab and driver17.dll to that list... In retrospect and considering I'm still having a problem with that ALi 1533 Southbridge, it would have been easier to start with a clean install of Win98 and then 99lite it. Wish I'd known... 05-18-2001 00:12:52

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile wordsmith meant that you need to use the Virgin Webplayer and a USB CF adapter to duplicate the existing image from the Virgin unit to the Compact Flash card. Then you shut down the Virgin Webplayer, remove the CF card from the USB CF adapter, then plug the CF card into the Gateway Connected Touchpad, and voila! He said nothing about creating the image on the CF card using the files from the raw image itself. Randy 05-18-2001 06:11:59

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Also, I noted you gave wordsmith some advice: "Be more specific in the future, it's not much help if not." Wow, you must have regained your nerve from last week already. Please take time to read each message more than once before you respond. You're not much help if not. Randy 05-18-2001 06:13:55

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email You really are Mr Know It All aren't you, Randy...You're so full of it that you totally discounted the several hours I spent trying to make that work when you obviously haven't even spent a minute trying what Wordsmith posted... Why don't you follow your own advice and read posts before making nasty and inappropriate comments. I make it a point to do that before I post. Unless I'm mistaken, Wordsmith wrote: "set the card to Primary, and copy the files from the DOC in the WebPlayer to the CF Via USB CF Adapter" What is it you don't understand about that sentence ?! Are you not familiar with what the DOC is or how it works on the Webplayer maybe. The only way you can put the Webplayer 98lite version is by copying the "Host" data that's about 47megs. The "mounted" size is 115megs, so there's no way that could fit on a 64mb card... It's also obvious to anyone who knows the most basic stuff about computers that when you transfer a Windows install from one computer to another, you're going to need your Win98 Setup CD so that Win98 can get the proper drivers for the "background" drivers like the Com ports, the chipset, IDE adapter, etc... The only point of my post was to attract people's attention to the fact that it was not "very easy to do", if you want to get a proper install of Win98 and that if you wanted to do that, you had to make sure you copied a bunch of cabs from your Win98 CD, not just "drivers". Of course, it does work though if you want to boot and have most of your hardware unrecognized, but that's pretty useless ! 05-18-2001 08:37:14

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile i thought wordsmith made perfect sense, yellow1 ...he said he installed 98lite on the CF...not 98se or ME... i haven't played much with 98lite, but perhaps there is a way to get a ME install in 64 MB...anyone tried it? even in 128MB would fit a CF 05-18-2001 08:37:15

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Agreed about Win98se and WinME although someone discovering the GWCP with that thread might have been confused. More importantlyu, what made perfect sense to me too when I read the post, was that it was a breeze to install 98lite. Not true and after spending several hours troubleshooting the install it still doesn't work. Hopefully it will save others who want to go the CF way some time and pain ! 05-18-2001 08:55:07

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wordsmith Profile Oh well. * WordsmitH 05-18-2001 10:23:00

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Jesus. 05-18-2001 10:26:39

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Jesus. 05-18-2001 10:28:39

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Wordsmith, you appear to be back. Care to explain how you managed that install so easily. Randy, we'll do without your comments, thanks. 05-18-2001 10:30:21

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) bloinkster Profile | Email is there any way you could upload an image of 98lite on the 64MB compactflash? I think that might help a lot of people. 05-18-2001 10:47:26

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Or, if you're on a slow connection, tell us how you did it and I can replicate that and upload that image. 05-18-2001 11:32:41

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) InMemoryOfFred Profile I see that Yellow1 continues to irritate and insult everyone. What a pity. -- InMemoryOfFred -- 05-18-2001 14:09:56

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email This cracks me up ! I knew it was you Randy, same ingrained hostility, same style et all...I was even getting ready to post: "Randy why don't you use your InMemoryOfFred ID to start a new flame war here...". Oh that's right you've still got that "Feddupp" ID you could use, hehe ! What a sad life you must be leading to resort to using fake IDs on a message board... 05-18-2001 14:50:49

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Yellow1, you are a piece of work. Although I don't use any other ID on the board, I happen to enjoy the way InMemoryOfFred skewers you. Good show, IMOF! 05-18-2001 16:08:03

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Good old Randy, still cracking me up ! What a feeble denial... Oh well, the subject of booting Win98/WinME from a CF card has been taken to another thread where people actually interested in the topic are posting. Those who are of disservice to the community by making things up (prove me wrong on this) and those who ignore the subject matter totally to focus on personal attacks under various monikers, need not bother. 05-18-2001 16:16:39

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Let me get this straight. You accuse me of being somebody else, and I'm supposed to prove to you that I'm not? Lordy. 05-18-2001 16:31:11

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) bloinkster Profile | Email If I'm thinking of the same person, Randy has contributed a ton to the other hacks on this board, he wasn't trying to start an argument. Yellow1 can dish it out, but can't handle it when people do the same to his comments. 05-18-2001 16:49:04

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Don't take everything for yourself Randy/InMemoryOfFred/Feddupp Boy, this "prove me wrong" was related to the actual subject of the post and the supposed "easiness" to install the Webplayer Win98 image smoothly, not to you and you various monikers... Interestingly, your attitude here about just dropping in the Webplayer DOC and thinking it's going to work straight out of the box without any need for Win98 install files is exactly the one IMOF (as you now call him, are you guys close?) thought it intelligent to deny that there were any IDE Pins on the picture scanned by Scan32 a few weeks ago. Denying the evidence is a pretty rare human trait in my experience so people who do that are easily remembered and...identified. You're too smart for your own good, Randy Boy. 05-18-2001 16:53:18

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email In my book, setting up an ePods hacking website and posting here all the time, doesn't make it OK to resort to futile personal attacks and several anonymous monikers. At best it's childish, at worst dishonnest. Let's move on to the subject at hand, this is just a waste of everyone's time and bandwidth. 05-18-2001 17:06:43

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wordsmith Profile That all I did. I had a friend help me out with it. We used PM and set the CF to primary. Then all I did was copy the entire DOC on a 64meg CF card thru the use of a USB CF adapter. People have do the same thing with DOS. I thru it it and it worked. I will ask my buddy if he did anything extra to the CF that Im not aware, but it seems that I know everything we did already. * WordsmitH 05-18-2001 19:51:04

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email And when you booted the GWCP from the CF it didn't ask you for the Win98 CD or the .cab files I listed above ?! This is simply impossible as anyone who's transfered a Windows installation from one computer to another one with a different chipset, CPU, etc...would know. 05-18-2001 22:10:44

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wordsmith Profile Im done. I withdrawl my Thread, and comments. Which means you cant ask ANYMORE questions of me. I tired of this sh*t. Im not going to read in this thread anymore. Call me a lier, stupid, or a dork. I don't care. I have school to worry about, and not some bullsh*t questions I have to answer more than once. My GCT is working, and I know all I need to make it function the way I like. AND No it didn't ask for a cd. It asked for the drivers for Display and Audio, along with Ethernet and modem(which we didn't need), but like I said, it's[CF] my friends, I bought 4 of these units. I think I might be finished reading on this site. * WordsmitH 05-18-2001 22:27:25

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email ok, well next time just don't post if you're not trying to help. I hope you do realize that it's just impossible to transfer Win98 from one computer to another without needing the CD or .cab files ? At least now, no one will try that trick you said was easy, so the three hours I wasted last night won't have been in vain. I think LD37 kindly asked for an image of your CF. If you're at school you probably have access to a fast connection. Could you at least do that for us ? 05-18-2001 22:59:47

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile You got a 64meg CF...you want a clean install of 98lite on it in your GCT...Here's how: Go to Best Buy, buy an IBM 340meg MicroDrive. It comes with a pcmcia adapter. Put it in your laptop, format it, make it bootable to DOS, add the Win98 setup folder and the 98lite prog. Put the Microdrive in the GCT, do a clean install of 98lite. Return the MicroDrive to the laptop, save an image of the OS to the laptop hard drive, put in your CF and install the image you saved to the CF. Now you have a clean install on the CF...Return the MicroDrive to Best Buy ("It didn't work"). No sweat. You probably won't want to return the MicroDrive after you get one. Oh well...... 05-19-2001 07:10:50

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile i don't think i asked for an image of his CF install...at least i didn't in this thread...i want ME on a CF myself, i want to know how small ME can be made with 98lite and i don't have a copy of either right now i don't like when people bring my name into arguments that don't involve me...especially when they make up things i supposedly said...if you want a flame war with me, you will lose...but i don't put the time or effort into starting arguments on these boards...you see, i have a real job and real hobbies that preclude me from sitting here waiting for someone to respond to me just so i have something to respond to other than my own posts yellow1, a little bit of advice...you really are beginning to be an ass...i discovered this board not too long ago and have enjoyed the information people can provide...most of this stuff i would never figure out on my own...you are the only one, and i mean the ONLY one, who seems to continue with the childish arguments...everyone else brings up questions and tries to come up with answers...people who don't know each other joined in a common goal, it's a cool thing, quit messing it up...you could always just remove yourself from the discussions and lurk to get the info 05-19-2001 11:24:47

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email LD37 1) Sorry, the image was Bloinkster's suggestion, my bad 2) Keep your advice to yourself. 05-19-2001 12:15:53

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) SiliconIce Profile It's becoming painful to even lurk here... 05-19-2001 22:12:40

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Gee, that's really a helpful comment, thanks for sharing 05-19-2001 23:54:08

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Naplm1 Profile | Email yellow1, go out and get some air, you need a break from your disruptions. 05-20-2001 08:47:35

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) Naplm1 Profile | Email I myself would like to get a winme install on a CF card. I would bet Wordsmith would have did a step by step for us, but I doubt it now, why should he? yellow1,you basicly said he concocted the CF install only because you could not replicate it. I am beginning to like the idea of some lite moderation to filter out the RUDE and DISRUPTIVE behavior of a (few) antisocial misfits. 05-20-2001 08:59:26

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email You apparently haven't read the above thread, where I actually listed the .cab files you needed to convert the Win98 installation from the webplayer to the GWCP. I don't know what Wordsmith or his friend did, but it's certainly not what he described. It's unfortunate he would lead others to believe that it's justa plug and play conversion, it's not. I've also performed a clean install of Win98 lite that works well and that should fit on a 128mb CF. I'll post it once I receive the 128mb CF I ordered so that it's fully tested. 05-20-2001 13:02:53

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) vagitizer Profile | Email Do us a favor and don't post. Vagitizer Scratch and Sniff... 05-20-2001 14:24:46

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email What is that supposed to mean ?! Are you trying to start another fight ? 05-20-2001 15:09:42

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) vagitizer Profile | Email oh, no sorry, I was replying to another thread further up the post... and who's talking about fighting??? I'm a story teller, peot, author... not a fighter ;) Vagitizer Scratch and Sniff... 05-20-2001 16:06:03

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wkendrvr Profile | Email ok, I am an idiot... I have been trying to get my cf to boot with no joy. I tried to used Part magic, but it doesnt even see that the card is there... BTW this is a 160meg Sandisk. Also tried my 1 gig microdrive with the same result. HELP!!! I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. 05-22-2001 15:50:33

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) yellow1 Profile | Email Did you "sys", just like you would an ordinary HD ? At a command prompt just type sys x:, where x: is the letter of your. Once you've done that you can copy the files from the root directory of any Win98 c:\ drive and install Win98. 05-22-2001 16:15:57

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wkendrvr Profile | Email yes sys'd the drive... Wondering if there is a size limit on cf.... 05-22-2001 16:27:55

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wkendrvr Profile | Email Well a bit of advancement, I now can see the microdrive with PM, (had to use the pcmcia adaptor vs usb.) Currently repartitioning it now, will resys it and see what happens... I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. 05-22-2001 16:35:27

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) wkendrvr Profile | Email nogo... get invalid disk, press any key to continue. 05-22-2001 17:28:48

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I get the same using my USV Sandisk reader/writer. I am waiting for two CF IDE readers that I ordered, I believe there is something in the USB software that translates the disk geometry in a way that's not compatable to create a boot CF. In fact after fdisking and formating the 32mb CF changes to a 30mb CF. Hopefully the IDE CF reader/writers will create it correctly. 05-23-2001 04:02:49

RE:Booted Win98Lite on 64meg CF. (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Uh... That's my USB reader/writer not my USV.... My USV reader/write is broken.... 05-23-2001 04:11:34

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