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New MessageQuestion about Home PNA (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Has anyone seen such a network before ?
The reason I'm asking is that the machine's definitely got a Network (RJ-45 ?) as well as RJ-11 (?) for the modem.
Now wouldn't it make sense for Home PNA to use RJ-11 connectors if you're going to plug them into your phone "network" ?
Just a thought.
05-02-2001 20:45:40

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) Programmer
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most of the homePNA adapter chips double as 10/100 adapter chips.. do we know what chip this thing uses? pegasus, kwath?? what?
05-04-2001 05:45:14

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) Greenspark
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Someone with a NT-150 I think it was turned its HPNA-like networking into ethernet. Aparently the parts themselves cost more than the whole machine, somewhere in the range of $50-$90. If it's not on this board somewhere, that machine has a dedicated website that I cannot recall at the moment...
05-04-2001 05:55:18

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) smee
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Does anybody know what the chance of using a USB/ethernet adapter is?

Will the USB ports be recognizable by Win98?
Will they work with devices other than HID (mouse, keyboard)?

05-04-2001 08:02:13

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) yellow1
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what makes you think USB adapters wouldn't work in Win98 ?!
05-04-2001 08:14:27

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) smee
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I have no reason to think the USB ports won't work under Win98.

However, I'll feel more confident about it when someone is able to confirm that they're there. With a system like this, I'll always leave room for some unusual, proprietary hardware until I know better.

Also, some other straight-from-the-box machines only talk about connecting mice and keyboards (HID devices) to their USB ports. Although I do not know for sure, I'd imagine that it's possible to build HID-only controllers into the machine.

However, at the Gateway site, I believe they refer to mice, keyboards, and printers with other devices available in the future (CD-RW). So, I assume they're not crippled.

I'm trying to plan ahead a bit here. If I can only get an HPNA machine, I'll need to rig an ethernet connection. Personally, I don't care about the modem.

05-04-2001 08:23:29

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) smee
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I came across a few things relating to HPNA that I thought I'd pass on.

1) You can daisy-chain HPNA adapters. You don't need to use a star configuration like ethernet.

2) It looks like you don't have to actually plug it into the real phone line anywhere. You can just daisy-chain machines. This is according to Linksys documentation.

3) Linksys makes a bridge to connect HPNA networks to 10/100 ethernet (also with a WAN port for cable/DSL but no firewall): HPB200. It's only $164 :( Price is buy.com but seems typical.

Comparison with ethernet in Gateway box:
I think the Gateway ethernet card is 10M (not 10/100).
A usb to ethernet adapter will get 8Mbps (on 10baseT) or 12Mbps on 10/100 using Linksys adapters.
HPNA is nominally 10Mbps (I think) but that's shared bandwith which ethernet through a switch wouldn't be.

05-04-2001 08:58:57

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) LD37
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i really wanted to tell that guy he was asking stupid questions but i am new around these parts...what was bugging me was that he would ask the same question over and over and over
05-04-2001 09:34:42

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) LD37
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well, damn...that was in the wrong thread...oh well...you should all recognize i am referring to yeallow1 finally telling geno he is an idiot
05-04-2001 09:35:52

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) yellow1
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yeah, well it was really becoming a pain...

Anyway, I opened up the DW and found that the HPNA is lodged in the miniPC slot and has the following markings:
"RTL8139CL
07193S1
029b TAIWAN"

Looks like a Realtek chipset to me...and it is: http://www.realtek.com.tw/htm/products/cn/rtl8139c.htm
It seems to be a standard Ethernet chip ?!
I wonder if GW actually have to do drop in a miniPC Ethernet card to convert it from HPNA to Ethernet.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's not a simple software reconfiguration...

05-04-2001 13:06:57

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) smee
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The software angle is something I mused about in the thread I started the other day that nobody bothered to reply to.

Of course, I should have put it in this thread instead of starting a new one - so I hope nobody ever bothers to reply to that one.

Can't wait to get mine so I can start playing too.

05-04-2001 13:27:49

New MessageRE:Question about Home PNA (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Hey yellow1 maybe the HPNA adapter just requires a diffrent socket for ethernet. Figure that gateway would hate to get stuck with 5000 HPNA Touchpads, and 5000 Ethernet. Okay, maybe Im am idiot since I havent even received mine yet.
05-04-2001 17:56:50

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