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New Messagewont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Hello,
I have the same problem that wordsmith did, but I know its not because I didnt push down hard enough. I ordered two digikey ide headers. I put the first one and just used the exsisting solder on the board to stick it down. Seemed sturdy enough, but the second i put a cable on off it came and ruined my first one. Okay, now to the second and last one. I did the same thing I did in the first one. Wet each already exsisting point and stuck the ide header down. Then in about ten different areas including all four corners I reinsofrced the connections with more solder. This bad boy WILL not come up at all. So, I put the brand new ibm 20 gig 9.5mm drive into my desktop using a 2.5 to 3.5 conversion kit and used Partition magic to set the drive active. I booted into windows 98 where I copied the whole win me cd to the hard drive, all my mp3s (9 gigs worth), the drivers for the gct, and made a boot disk on a floppy and copied all those files over to the root directory of the ibm hard drvie. I then conencted my laptop drive to the gc using what i believe is a badflash cable. I took out the cf card and powered up my gct. The drive spins and comes to life. But I get these funny read characters as seen here:
http://www.emoocher.com/mp3car/gcterror1.jpg and http://www.emoocher.com/mp3car/gcterror2.jpg

anyone have an idea as to wh this is happening? myabe its not soldered correctly? It strongly looks like all pins are touching fine and its down on there pretty tightly. Please let me know.
-Shaxs

05-19-2001 12:19:22

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) yellow1
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If the drive spins up, the IDE connection is probably fine.
You don't mention it, so I'll ask, did you "sys" the disk ? From my experience, copying the files from the floppy isn't going to be enough. All you need to do, when your HD is in your desktop is type "sys x:" in a DOS window.
To install Win98, you'll also need to use the mode co80 command to fix the screen settings. Just copy mode.com from a \windows©ommand folder to your hard drive.
Hope that helps.
05-19-2001 12:25:42

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) Steve
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I've seen the same thing last night. Everything was working great until I screwed everything back together. then I got the same symptoms as you. As far as I can tell, in my case, its from the pressure of the blob of IDE cables oon either the IDE header, the drive, or the perfboard that the drive is mounted to pressing on the bios chip. Right now I have most of the screws in the top half of the GCT (both the schield and case) and it's working fine.
Obviously I'll need to shorten my IDE cable or mount the drive upside down so the cable doesn't have to be twisted 180.
The first thing to check is the connections on the IDE header. Also make sure the drive is set to active.
Good luck. please post what you find out.
05-19-2001 13:06:39

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Okay, I will try "sys'ing the disk instead... thanks! I am glad the ide connection is fine! And, if this wasnt a bad flash cable (90% sure it is) the drive should not spin either right since the connections are bass ackwards?
-Shaxs
05-19-2001 15:45:27

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Okay,
I took all the drives out of my desktop and put in the laptop drive only. I then installed win me. It boots up fine in my desktop. I put it into my GCT and the drives powers up and spins, but I still get those read characters! Someone help me please!
-Shaxs
05-20-2001 09:38:10

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) Steve
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I'd suspect the IDE connection again. When you say you "wet each connection then put on the ide header" do you mean you put on a blob of solder first? I made the mistake of doing that on mine. the ide header wasn't going all the way down because some of the blobs of solder kept it up too high off the board. when I soldered all the pins it looked ok from above but it wouldn't boot. when I went back and looked at the connections under the microscope I saw that some of the pins were not connected after all.
With a dental pick (or some other small tool) I gently nudged the side of each pin. Under the microscope I could see a few move and once I saw it move I could tell that the solder wasn't reaching up to the pin. use a magnifying glass if you have to but check the connection to each pin.
05-20-2001 11:20:59

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Thanks, will locate a maginfying glass and try again. When I said "wet" I just placed the ide connector, and made the solder that was on the board hot... Guess I will go through and additionaly solder every pin down
05-20-2001 12:10:26

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Okay, I now know some of the pins wernt conencting.... these things are on the board for sure. I pressed hard down on each conneter and they are down. Now the problem is the drive wont even spin up...... sigh. Would nayone be willign to take a look at this for me?
05-20-2001 13:03:48

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I would suggest "Wetting" the solder joints with some quality rosin core flux. Just use a little bit on each connection.
05-20-2001 14:05:41

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) Clueless
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I could take a look.. Where are ou located?
Chaos, panic, and disorder... My work here is almost done...
05-20-2001 14:06:15

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I keep hitting send to fast....
Wet the joints then resolder.
05-20-2001 14:07:05

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) vagitizer
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I had all the problems you can have getting a hard drive to boot. I suggest the following

For a new drive
1. Get a Hard drive
2. Create a partition on it
3. Set the partition active
4. Format it.
5. Sys the drive (this allows the drive to boot a pc)
6. Copy the operating system CD to a directory on the drive.
7. Make sure the drive will boot (i did this using my PC)
8. Create a directory on it and add all the drivers you will need (video, audio, touchscreen, ethernet, make sure to unzip any that need to be unziped)
9. Get or make an I-opener cable (to make on you will need to split every 2 wires, twist 1/2 turn and then put back in connector. Easiest way is to take a piece of scotch tape and twist and stick to tape, do this for each pair. Then crimp the connector, this will make a I-Opener type IDE cable, takes patience but it works). After you are done making the cable use a VOM to verify that the connections are solid, and that you DID switch every other wire. If pin 1 is now pin 2 on the oposite connector it worked. Do this for all 44 pins. So 1 is 2, is 1, 3 is 4, 4 is 3...etc
10. Solder a IDE header to the MB. Make sure, couble, triple check each solder connection (all 44 of them) I had to re-solder 5 that looked like they soldered right. Nope, they didn't and I didn't catch it until I went over every thing 3 times. (got those funny red char). I suggest using a tiny bit of flux, and a little extra supper thin solder in addition to whats on the pad. I didn't but I suggest it.
11. Once you are confident that the drive will boot, The connector is wired correctly, and the pins are REALLY soldered to the MB you are all set.
12 wire it all up and fire up the GCTP. If the hard drive does not spin up, there is a serious problem with your wiring. If the drive spins up and you get funny char. Either one or more of the pins are not connecting on the MB, or you did not sys the drive correctly (this is hard to f- up). Or you messed up the cable. The GCTP will boot to a dos prompt if you did all this correctly.
13 Go to your os directory and run set up.
14 Screw up the install yourself (microsoft should help you do this just fine). This is where it helps to have the drivers already on the Hard drive before you do the set-up. This way you will not have a problem when it comes time to install them for the OS.

15. Good luck. Miss any of the above step, and it won't work. This should end this thread, unless you didn't go with WINDOZE.

05-20-2001 14:21:18

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) shaxs
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Clueless,
I live in ca.
-Shaxs
05-20-2001 21:23:12

New MessageRE:wont boot =( (modified 0 times) Steve
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Shaxs, were you able to get it to boot?
05-23-2001 19:55:19

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