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Available for $49 at amazon.com
dirt-cheap for a hacking toy?

New MessageAvailable for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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went bargain hunting at the local Wally-Mart stores, today, and couldn't find one of these, so i searched the web. everyone's links kept eventually pointing back to amazon.com, which didn't show the actual selling price, but said "Our Price: Too low to display." added it to my shopping cart, and it was only $49!!! another link on the page listed it at Circuit City online for $99, and of course the original MSRP was $249. forty-nine bucks plus shipping isn't exactly dumpster-diving, but it sure feels close.
12-22-2001 20:02:56

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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Updated links, since Philips reorganized their website (and it's slow, too )

Product Leaflet:
http://www.philipsusa.com/global/b2c/ce/catalog/assets/downloads/wvh111_17_lft.pdf

Owner's Manual
http://www.philipsusa.com/global/b2c/ce/catalog/assets/downloads/wvh111_17_man.pdf

12-27-2001 08:14:43

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) kNiTe_oWl
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the AOL-TV thread has been quiet for a long time. Hopefully with the price down at $49 it will stirr up some more interest. I just ordered one, will see what we can do with it when it gets here.
12-27-2001 11:53:18

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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kNiTe_oWl:

yeah, i wondered if anyone else really cared, or if they had pretty much given up on these. $49 gets you plenty of hardware plus a small hard disk drive, which isn't all bad. the processor is slower than an Audrey or IA-1, but since it's just for fun, what the heck . . . i'll let you know when mine gets here.

keith721

12-27-2001 13:39:14

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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okay . . . the UPS guy just tossed it (literally) on my doorstep it was shipped from Amazon.com in Campbellsville, Kentucky, in factory original condition from Philips Consumer Electronics in Greenville, Tennessee. the box originally said it was manufactured in Mexico, but a sticker placed over it says Belgium.

1. you'll need a T10 Torx driver to get the lid off. no special security screws, just three normal torx screws.
2. it has a Quantum Fireball lct 10 3.5" IDE hard disk drive, appears that it may be 5.1 gigabytes. the sticker on it says 5.1AT P/N LB05A011 Rev 01-A
3. it's got a Conexant modem chipset consisting of two chips: L2800-38 and R6764-63
4. if you remove the plastic front panel from the metal case, you can read the label on the printed circuit board just in front of the smartcard slot: Darth Vader A

more info as i keep playing with it...

12-28-2001 14:48:02

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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got the hard drive out of the way, and this thing REALLY doesn't have much inside

looks like it was manufactured in 2000 - there's a Cyrix CX5530 multipurpose IC, which i believe is the precursor to Audrey's CS5530A from National Semiconductor, and an IGS Technologies CyberPro 5005 (?video) with two Samsung ram chips near it.

for all the back-panel connector, general PCB layout, and functional similarities between this and the Acer NT-150, the board appears considerably different. coming two years later, it might be a descendant of the Acer, but it's almost two years later again, and this unit seems . . . lame?

oh, well - at least for $49 i got a hard disk drive my personal opinion (for exactly what it's worth) is:

don't bother, unless you feel like having a history lesson in how fast technology moves.

12-28-2001 15:28:24

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Tnks for the description!!! :)

The 5530 is a later chip set for the Media GX series. Have a old junk board I was given that had the 5510b with a Cyrix 200mhz but a decent Audio and a noize fan. Wish it had composit video out. :( Hum. If it has a real audio chip tied into those connections and with a real OS could turn it into a small audio recorder. Which is what I want to do with that old 5510b I have. And if the USB is usable could drop it on a LAN with a cheep USB->NET adapter.

If you need drivers check driverguide.com. Their accounts are free and they do stock a lot of really old out of stock drivers.

If you dont mind, are you planning on cleaning it up and removing that nasty old AOL. ;)

Cat go wrong on a small hd at 5gb hd. :)

12-28-2001 17:53:23

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Did you say lct 10???? If so that may be a 10gb not 5. Wonder if its a drive that failed or just their OS cant go above 5? W95 unless patch would not go above 2gb.

Been checking on the net and it pop back as a 10gb!!! :) This may be a super deal!

Just in case you want to hook it up to a full size computer places like Fry's electronics sell adapter for around 15 dollars. Basic except for 4 pins its layed out exactly the same as a std ATA drive connector. Just smaller pins and power is also feed that way.

12-28-2001 18:09:20

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Must be going mad. For some reason I was thinking it was a "smaller" in size hd like for a laptop. Even for a 5 normal size thats not a bad price.
12-28-2001 18:14:47

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) keith721
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no, it's a standard full-sized IDE/ATA drive. i was kinda hoping it was a smaller notebook model, so that i could butcher it into my Compaq IA-1, but . . . nope. i need to connect the drive to my Linux system, and see about backing up what's on it. codeman's original description, and things i found at the Liberate.com website indicate that it's the Wind River VXworks operating system. never played with this one, thought it might be interesting to browse through it.
12-29-2001 08:05:22

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Wonder what format it uses also?

I like using Drive Image to make compressed backup. The latest even writes out to CD. Makes it handy on testing. It can even do Linux partitions.

Good luck on the hunt!

12-29-2001 10:08:50

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) mooner
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Are you going to try some form of windows? wounder how it would handle being a mp3 player on a windows platform.
12-31-2001 10:48:57

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Not sure that is a very good question. The Cirix CPU were a bit weak in math and slower than the mhz number indicated.

I have real copies from W95OEM B through W98SE that could work on it. W95 would play ok and with low drain on the system. Actual running that 95 on a old Media GX 200mhz board but will test it playing Mp3 tonight. { Thats how I ring in the new year. ;) } What I would do is copy the directory of win95 or win98 {whichever} from the CD into a directory on its HD reformated with Fat32. 95oem can do fat32. Also add the std GX 5530 drivers on the same HD. Then run "startup" from that copy on the HD. Would not need to hook a cd at all to it. This is how I do install.

Could try a cut down Linux with just enough to do the job. Maybe a copy of X-Windows but no shells and a text based player.

Downloaded a few weeks ago QNX. Its free for personnel use has all tools you need and has a MP3 Player in it. It list the Media GX chipset as supported. There is some info on doing a MP3 box using the OS.

Dont laugh! Even have DOS 4.01 to 6.22! Some where I have code that can control a SB compatable card and could fix it for the GX Bugs. Also have code if have Vesa Video driver to control the video. Also have code from a long time ago on both compressing and decompressing a MP3 before it became illegal to even look at how it is done. This would keep the load way down. There are a few embeded system running DOS these days! Have written both Text and GUI to run on DOS along time ago.

Three questions I have are: does it have a sound chip capable of even playing audio, can it record audio and can I hook it up to a LAN via a USB->LAN adapter? If it has the lands for a PCI card could a LAN card be put inside if that is active?

Have a Good New Year!

12-31-2001 20:33:59

New MessageRE:Available for $49 at amazon.com (modified 0 times) Miyu2002
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Did two thing last night:

Tried to order one of the AOLTV from Amazon and they are out. :(

Did a audio test on the Media GX 200 mhz board I have here. At least it went better. I forgot that the Cyrix does not have MMX or anything like that. It did play well on the W95OEM I had installed on it. Had to install Winamp but played audio with no problems. Could not use some of the other visuals but played aok. Tried from 96 to 224.

01-01-2002 19:46:44

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