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New MessageAnticiplaystation (modified 0 times) Acer
I just read this article on ZDnet and it got me to thinking about the info on this site.
The Playstation 2 and Microsoft X-box game machines will be introduced soon with the WinCE OS - they'll also have more sophisticated hardware than what's been hacked so far. They also have 56k modems. I am wondering how much work it would take to turn these into full-fledged set-top PC's, and if it would be worth your time to do it. I'm just a newbie and haven't gotten my hands on anything yet - no websurfers in my area, and I had to sign the TOC to get an I-opener. (I just said no.) Anyhow, is anyone else looking forward to playing with these new toys, or are they not viable options?

The article I'm referring to can be found at -

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2580937,00.html

06-02-2000 12:08:44

New MessageRE:Anticiplaystation (modified 0 times) AlphaVMS
The Dreamcast also uses Windows CE, but I haven't heard of anyone hacking one yet to add hard drives or a different operating system.
06-02-2000 12:12:57

New MessagePlaystation2 doesn't use WinCE (modified 0 times) SpiceWare
WinCE is nowhere to be found in that article, not sure where you go this idea.

This article http://www.idg.net/crd_playstation_80492.html says that Linux was used in developing the Playstation 2, but that the Playstation runs a proprietary Sony OS.

06-02-2000 12:50:41

New MessageRE:Anticiplaystation (modified 0 times) phorge
Playstation 2 is NOT running Windows CE. The previous poster is right. It was developed on Linux and runs it's own OS. As for the X-Box, rumor has it that it will run some variant of Win2000... not CE.
06-02-2000 14:25:19

New MessageRE:Anticiplaystation (modified 0 times) Gilligan
The PlayStation2 is based on a MIPS chip, 128bit VLIW EmotionEngine is a marvel of RISC design. It runs a proprietary 'system'. Developers write games on a Linux box with a cross compiler to target the MIPS. I.e. RFP-Real Fu*&ing Programming, none of this WinCE crap. The PS2 itself does not run Linux.

That said, you know darn well that Sony is gonna build a gaming network to rival AOL, and it will have a browser, etc. This is the real reason M$ 'announces' X-box, to try and deflect Sony. If PS2 matches PS with over 70million units worldwide, that about 3 times the AOL numbers.

Sony wants to pump video/audio on demand and with cable/dsl it might work. Imagine DVD quality movie Pay-per-View for pennies, without leaving your TV. Imagine the targeted advertising revenues. Imagine you're Bill Gates.

Did I mention you can plug up a SVGA monitor to a PS2 for highres pc style browsing? And the cool games for less $$ than PC games, well PS games are generally cheaper.

06-02-2000 19:28:09

New MessageRE:Anticiplaystation (modified 0 times) wiggles
The PS2 is a bitch to program for. It houses multiple high-powered multimedia chips that have no high-level integrated API made available by Sony. You have to wade through thousands of pages of hardware manuals and basically write game engines that make all the hardware calls, before you can even begin writing a game.

In other words, repurposing a PS2 will be all but impossible. There is no off-the-shelf OS that can access any of the hardware on that thing. It is not worth the immense commitment involved in writing or porting a new OS just to get a cheapo set-top box.

However it seems to me that repurposing an X-Box will be trivial. It comes with standard PC hardware positioned across an architecture that optimizes multimedia performance. Even so, such an architecture should be able to run x86 OS'es (Linux, *BSD, Win whatever) with minor tweaks.

- wig

06-07-2000 01:17:03

New MessageRE:Anticiplaystation (modified 0 times) Myself
This may help:

http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/2q00/openps2-1.html

06-09-2000 11:37:01

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