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New Messagedvd book pc (modified 0 times) transcc
The book PC with dvd-rom is available at www.acnt.com priced at $280 shipping is approx. $25. Does not include the speaker/subwoofer system, this costs $35 extra.
06-10-2000 22:29:10

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) bobm
Has anyone gotten Linux up on this yet? I'm interested to see if the modem is a winModem or real modem.
06-10-2000 23:12:40

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) Monic2k
Looks very promising... The barebones system makes it easy to pick and choose what configuration I want, not to mention the DVD-ROM drive that comes standard on the machine.
Now, here's my thought... Is it possible to crack open the iOpener, simply remove its guts (motherboard, etc) and make use of the 10" lcd for use with the BookPC??? If this can happen, f*** hacking an iOpener (which would end up costing you in the neighborhood of $500 simply to get half the config. of the bookPC) Granted, hacking the iOpener in itself is such a fun and k-Rad pr0jekt 4 311t3 d00dz, but s***... Is it REALLY worth that much time, money and not to mention the possibility of frying the damned thing? If you can, at the least make use of that 10" lcd, that in itself makes it totally worthwhile. I just want to be able to run the G-Force plugin in WinAmp, play my DVD's, hook up a GPS navigation system, wireless modem via my GSM cellphone, voice activation, touchscreen, and mount that s*** in my ride. BookPC and the iOpener, if able to be mated, would be the greatest mind-f*** I've ever seen! (Oh yeah, and get a TV tuner with RCA inputs and hook up my Dreamcast and portable playstation) ((Check slashdot.org for details on the new portable playstation))
06-11-2000 01:33:06

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) spuck
Well, this is not "breaking news", but I thought I'd inject a bit of info. here.

I currently have a BookPC (normal CD-ROM, not DVD) on my desk here. My employer bought this for me to play with and evaluate as a possible solution to a project we are working on here. Here is some details you may or may not already know:

The BookPC does not have any serial ports. The Modem is a Winmodem, the sound is decent, and the network works (and linux support is available, it uses a Davicom 9102 chip) The motherboard does not have any expansion slots, but does have 1 IDE channel and a floppy drive connector. It is NOT a standard ATX MB, (it has a strange power connector and is an odd size).

The motherboard supports Suspend-to-RAM (S3), which is pretty cool under Windows98, but the power supply fan doesn't seem to shut off when the machine is suspended.

It also appears to support booting from a network, but it looks for a Novell server, rather than a PXE (DHCP/TFTP) server.

06-12-2000 13:46:29

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) Busdriver
I sold one to a customer, my oem has them for $180 barebones wholesale. They are very, very cool, there IS FULL LINUX SUPPORT, the dirver disk has everything. They are slower than a regular full size though, and the PSU thing is annoying, they turn on and off in the middle of the night... solution: put it on a surge supressor that you can turn off. The suspend works great, it is a winmodem and don't try to replace it with another one when it gets fried. These modems are the proprietary type seen on all PC Chips stuff, and there are so many versions of the boards and modems that you can never get one to work, lucily my OEM has a 2 year warranty on them. They are a good machine, but DON'T expect rock solid reliablity at all! The TV out isn't all that great, my ATI Rage Fury 128 Pro is far superior. If you were to dis-assemble it and strip it down, it would easily fit all enclosed in a glove box. (My pre-IO plan) The sound is good on it for being built in and the optional digital out is interesting. The USB support isn't universal, don't plan on using a USB-Serial converter and having it work with ####ing anything at all, USB modems don't seem to like it either, but scanners and card readers seem to be good. Also, scanners ####ing hate this things par. port for some reason... I tried 4 different ones, with everything I could think of and the mother####er would just lock up or not work... USB works perfect for the customer though. A little bugy, but gets my thumbs up... with this info its a great machine.
07-12-2000 20:12:54

New MessageRE:book pc (modified 0 times) Ballast
Well I have been using one for about a month now as a massive MP3 jukebox - I have ripped about 400 of my CDs to MP3 and currently have over 7000 MP3s stored on it. I bought it bare and added a 533MHz celeron, 64MB of memory, a 30GB hard drive and hung an old 15" monitor on it. I use winAmp along with a couple of great plugins.

I bought a relatively cheap IR keyboard/mouse combo earlier this week on the net, only to find when it arrived that the "mouse/joystick" cable was 9-pin serial (the keyboard cable was PS2) altho the same company makes a version that uses ps2 connectors for both, it looked like more hassle and expense to try to get it exchanged. I had a Belkin multi-port USB hub with 3 USB ports, 1 serial & 1 parallel port. I installed the drivers on the book machine and plugged it it in, attached the KB & Mouse connections & eureka!!! it all works. fyi - I considered just not using the built-in mouse and forgetting about the serial connection problem, only to find that the keyboard IR receiver (which is what actually being plugged into the computer), gets its power from the serial connection, so you have to have it connected somehow.

07-13-2000 11:58:31

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) Courier5
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I have made a quick message board to try and answer some questions about the bookPC. Also, to find out what people are using it for and the success of overclocking and using FC-PPGA adapters.


/http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1157662

07-21-2000 08:39:53

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) jw7u
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What kind of memory slots do the book pc take?
07-24-2000 11:34:51

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) WOODi
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i 2nd that question: will it mate with the iO's lcd--anybody?
07-26-2000 10:19:52

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) redwood
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I think I'll buy one of these, but, I see no sales or rebates so no hurry... I want a complete system, DVD, wireless keyboard/mouse. It looks like only stereo sound? right/left? no surround sound to go with the DVD?? not much activity on the board about this box, I guess people are happy with them? The only thing I'd like is to add a tivo type to it, but, that's prolly dreaming...
07-26-2000 12:54:05

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) oldengineer
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The most common BookPC is the BookPC i810, which uses the Intel 810 integrated video/sound/etc. chipset. RAM is standard PC100 (PC66 should work, but PC100 is cheap and has a future). There are two RAM slots which take up to 256M each, or 512M total.

The sound is 4 channel AC41 compatible. There is an option for digital / optical sound interface though I've not seen it anywhere. The FSB is BIOS selectable as 66, 75, 83, or 100 MHz which would seem to allow overclocking or even Pentium3 use, but there has been almost no success with anything but standard (Mendocino i.e. pre-Coppermine) Celerons (mine is the 533).

Cost is only $129 bare-bones (the cabinet, motherboard, floppy, and installation CD) at eMailPC in Milpitas, CA. The IR cordless keyboard/mouse is $29; 5 speaker sets for $35 on up, etc. I got the bare-bones unit, 128M of PC100 RAM, and the Celeron 533 for about $400 total, including tax. It replaced my '486/160 **very** well and sits under the in box on my roll-top desk. Expandability is nil (OK, more RAM and the USB), but for Web browsing and Email, it works extremely well with my @Home 2Mbps cable modem and its built-in 100bT Ethernet port.

The TV output quality is poor compared to an SVGA monitor, but then again that's TV. There's a lot you can do to adjust and optimize it (see PCWave.com's site). I've not tried the SVHS connection to my 28" Sony yet.

Its intended market appears to be a set-top box: with a DVD drive it would serve as a DVD player, plus Web browser, Email unit, MP3 player, and so on in a tiny set-top size. Too bad the power supply's cooling fan sounds like a 747 at takeoff.

I like mine a lot. It will serve its role very well until I get my Pentium 4 DDR Ram machine next year. Meanwhile my wife uses it all the time for the Web. And it's cranking out SETI@Home work units every 10 hours. For $400, how can you beat that?

As for using an i-opener's LCD as a display: No can do, folks. The built-in display of an i-opener, laptop, or such gets its data from dedicated chips connected to internal system data busses directly. There's never a stage of SVGA video or such. So the only video signals from *any* PC would be incompatible with any point in LCD equipped machines regardless of their source. Rube Goldberg setups which redigitize the SVGA video and pump it into the PCMCIA or USB connectors may be possible but would be expensive and the display quality would suffer horribly. Too bad, too: eMail PC shows off their BookPCs at local computer shows using the Acer 15" LCD and it's stunning - usually playing a DVD with surround sound. Wish I could afford one of those $795 displays...

07-28-2000 16:10:07

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) gremlin
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Oldengineer, when you say "the TV output quality is poor..." do you mean in reference to the DVD player? Or are you running an OS to the TV?
07-31-2000 11:13:54

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) chainsaw76
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I've been using the mvp4 (not the i810) book pc as a transportable mp3 player (30gb drive) for both our cars, home, and work for a couple of months now. (I Have the CD-Rom version, not the DVD version)
The TV out is as good as any Composite TV out I have seen (I'm not sure you would want to read normal sized text with it on a regular basis). I generaly have it hooked up to a 4" Composit LCD and use it as a MP3 jukebox with a very LARGE readbale font (10 Lines per screen).
This is a great little unit.

Chaisnaw


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08-10-2000 09:36:49

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) oldengineer
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Gremlin asked about my saying that the TV output is poor. That's with ordinary Win98SE video output, not DVD video output (I don't have a DVD drive yet, but really enjoy having a CD-R/W drive instead). The limitation isn't the output per se, but the NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color) standard itself. I suspect the S-VHS video connection would improve things, but still doubt that an ordinary consumer television will even approach the sharpness and clarity of a computer monitor at even 640x480 resolution.

More news when I try the S-VHS connection.

08-10-2000 16:25:29

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) gern
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I had one of these before the IO's were available, but I returned it because I could never get *anything* on the NTSC output. Is there anything special you need to do to make that work? I assumed it would basically be a copy of what was on the SVGA. I'd love to use one of these as a DVD/MP3 player in the living room, but I don't want a computer display, just the TV.
08-11-2000 19:42:26

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) WOODi
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oldengineer, is voltage for cpu automatically regulated or jumpered? Does it go in the 1.5-1.65v range, or just ~2v?
thanks.
08-12-2000 13:41:49

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) osupernick
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what is the best winamp plugin for using a tv,
also anybody like the wireless kb that is packaged with the unit or are you better off finding a better one.
it anybody got an infra red port working with a univeral remote?
08-14-2000 08:13:42

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) oldengineer
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gern: To get the TV / SVHS output, you have to reboot *without* an SVGA monitor attached. Windows only handles one driver at a time, so if it sees an SVGA monitor, it drives it and ignores the TV outputs. Otherwise, away it goes (be sure the BIOS is set to NTSC or PAL, depending on your nation's video standard). I've not tried to get it to jump back or forth without rebooting. For home MP3 use, it should be fine provided you don't mind the somewhat loud tiny fan in its power supply (time for some Sonex (r) sound absorbent foam?).

WOODi: The CPU voltage is "set automatically" by the BIOS. You can find a discussion of the details, including attempts at overclocking and such, at:

http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb1157662&TL=964195947

osupernick: I've not been using Winamp or TV output, so I can't help you on skin selection. eMailPC, who sold me my BookPC, demonstrates it with the IR keyboard you mention and it seems to work OK, though in the crowds of a computer show I've not tried to see how good its range is (too many folks in the way). For use in your easy chair while it's a set-top box, I suspect it would work pretty well. For serious word processing or other desktop work, the built in mouse replacement and such - and need for batteries - would be a drawback. There, the Logitech wireless mouse (I have it and it's **good**) and keyboard combination would be hard to beat if the range is sufficient - but that's a US$100 solution, not $35. Take your pick...

08-14-2000 11:02:44

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) osupernick
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yea that power supply needs to be silenced, any ideas, listening to mp3's is worse than poor reception on an fm radio.......hiss.......wurr...... click click (from hd)
any ideas ...larger heat sink replacing fan.... no fan......
slower fan.......resistor on the fan..... sound tight cement vault... who's got the quietest hard drive.
any processors that run cool and can get by with just a heat sink......
08-15-2000 07:52:21

New MessageRE:dvd book pc (modified 0 times) osupernick
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anybody got the ac3 connection?????
08-15-2000 07:53:30

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