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Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare

New MessageCircuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Dampier
My letter to Richard Sharp, CEO of Circuit City, received a telephone response today from Kim Biller, special assistant to the CEO regarding the Nepliance letter that is circulating to I-Opener customers who purchased units from Circuit City.

Circuit City is now apologizing for the confusing correspondence from Netpliance and for all of the problems it has created for customers like myself. Circuit City has ABSOLUTELY no intention of attempting to enforce any terms and conditions provided by Netpliance, nor will they provide any credit card information or participate in ANY effort by Netpliance to attempt to enforce its contract. The release of customer information to Netpliance was authorized SOLELY for Netpliance to contact customers and inform them of the delay because of the modifications to the unit. Circuit City wanted to give customers the option of cancelling orders prior to delivery of the "modification proof" model to avoid having them coming back to the store in droves as returns.

As far as Circuit City is concerned, any terms and conditions from Netpliance come into force only after you sign up for the service using the I-Opener, which involves providing Nepliance (NOT CC) with credit card information and name and address information. Circuit City could care less whether you agree to Netpliance's terms and conditions or not. Their involvement ends after you give them the $99 plus tax. So, if you never sign up for the I-Opener service using the I-Opener, Netpliance's contract is 100% irrelevent to you, whether you bought the product in March or April.

Bottom Line: CC is not willing to get involved in Netpliance's sloppy attempt to enforce a contract after the fact. As units continue to trickle in, unless you are asked to sign a contract in the store itself for Internet service from Netpliance, what you do with the unit is your affair.

04-27-2000 13:25:54

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Rootman
Now if they would only ship the f**king things!

I've been waiting sine 3/16 for mine!

04-27-2000 14:02:52

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Jhon
I got mine from CCity tuesday (04/25).

I placed the order 03/12. "All things come to he who waits", eh?

The bios was gooped and the IDE pins were perfect. One heat-gun and flash programmer later and WOOHOO.

04-27-2000 14:54:39

New MessageCC should know better (modified 0 times) grateful.net
they're a large company, been in business for a long time, and should just know better than to allow netpliance to bully its customers as has recently happened.

if CC was concerned that customers might not want their units, they should have said so in plain english, and they, THEMSELVES should have contacted the customers. there should NEVER have been any mention of representation by or for NP. getting a letter from NP was an inexcusable third party relationship; one that probably was never desired on the part of most customers.

CC now knows it ####ed up and is backpeddling.

this whole thing has been a mess. in so many ways...

04-27-2000 18:18:35

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Somebody
Jhon--

Heat gun?

flash burner?

haven't you heard of qnxflash?

Somebody

04-27-2000 18:41:42

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Jhon
Yup... and not interested.

From beginning to end, it took me about 5 mins to yank the chip and flash the bios.

And since I needed to crack the case anyway, it didn't make much of a difference to me either way.

This also gives me the benifit of playing with various bios flashing utilitied (if I want to get rid or change the spash screen, for instance) without fear... once the socket is restored, it's EASY to pull the chip and reflash it back to it's original state.

04-27-2000 19:06:57

New Messagethen you've probably never heard of cbrom130 either (modified 0 times) ciaran
that someone can use to change a bios image. oh well, you sound like a hardware guy. we'll leave you alone :)

ciaran

05-02-2000 00:19:24

New Messagethen you've probably never heard of cbrom130 either (modified 0 times) ciaran
that someone can use to change a bios image. oh well, you sound like a hardware guy. we'll leave you alone :)

ciaran

05-02-2000 00:19:25

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) i have no patience
I ordered my Iopener from CC 3/30/00 and have not received it yet. I called CC today 5/15/00 and they said they just received 6, however there are some 30 backordered and I will have to wait even more. Perhaps, perhaps..
05-15-2000 13:21:10

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Cancelled
Cancelled my order several weeks ago. Bought the C-USA demo instead they didn't have a clue....
05-15-2000 15:31:15

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Phillerup
Wow
Where and how did you manage this? All 3 that I tried said that "they dont own the demo" and "they need one to show people what they are out of"
05-15-2000 17:53:12

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) Threed
Working at Circuit, I can tell ya the truth. What they are telling you are lies :). Basically what Circuit does is: A) Cannot sell a demo if its in the advertisement, to avoid bait-and-switch complaints, and B) Will sell you the display model if its not in stock in the general area, and there is none at the warehouse to be special ordered.

The reason why they dont sell the I-Opener is because every store only got *ONE* unit running the I-Opener demo, and they would not get any more if they were to sell it. (Not sure about this, but if you can find a phone jack nearby, either for the Intel PentiumIII Endcap, or the computer Build To Order Station, you might be able to plug it in and clear the demo out. Just a suggestion :)

-Threed

05-28-2000 00:02:16

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) -will
Threed,
You don't quite know what you are talking about- I bought the demo unit at my CC in New York on Long Island over three weeks ago and they gave me a discount on top of that. Your argument that they want to avoid "bait and switch" is specious, bait and switch what? What does that mean?

"None in the warehouse to be special ordered" might make sense if you wrote "none in the warehouse and not able to be special ordered". By the way if an item is in the warehouse and not in the store but an item that is generally stocked that is referred to as a "backorder". Not in the warehouse but available from the manufacturer is a "special order" either way the demo unit would be saleable because they have had no way to get any from the warehouse or by way of special order from the manufacturer. Add to that the manufacturer has changed the model thus making all demo units discontinued.

05-28-2000 14:20:08

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) El Barto
By bait and switch, I believe he means that if it's advertised in the paper and there's no demo or stock of them in the store, then the customer comes in expecting it and they may (think they will) be offered something else. Which is the main science behind the bait and switch trick.
05-28-2000 16:11:50

New MessageRE:Circuit City Apologizes for Netpliance Nightmare (modified 0 times) KingPinHYP
Threed is 100% correct. Bait and Switch is a major law, and CC is legally obligated to have one for people to see, incase it is ever in an ad. If the warehose location is out, sometimes displays will be sold to make a customer happy, but no CC in NO SITUATION was supposed to sell their Iopener demo, becuase each store was given only one iopener, and it was the one that had the "DEMO" on it. Ours was pulled long ago and is now OB-A, sitting in the R+R room. For some dumb reason it is always on the 288!!! I would love to have a manager gut it and i would like to buy it OB. But i cant. AAnywa, threed u were right.

email me if u have any CC or IO related Q's
KingPinHYP@aol.com

05-31-2000 14:21:56

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