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LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting!

New MessageLISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) RandyJRS
The shareholder meeting will air live thanks to Yahoo's Broadcast.com tomorrow (Tuesday, May 9) at 5 p.m. Eastern Time. Here is the url to bookmark:

http://webevents.broadcast.com/financecalls/event/index.asp?EarningsID=969&src=Yahoo!%20Earnings

This should be VERY interesting. Did the company make money during the first quarter? Did they lose their proverbial butts? Are customers buying the units but not purchasing internet service? Will Bob and Carol marry Ted and Alice? The answers to these and other earth-shaking questions are yours for the listening tomorrow!

Randy

05-08-2000 22:15:31

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) tracker.gov
Your IP will be tracked and traced. All hackers will be punished by hand slapping and nasty letters with TOS attached. We will know who the hackers are once and for all.

Seriously, be careful. Yahoo may have agreed to give out the info they get like CC did. I would not have a e-mail address entered into your audio player, or did you register your player?

05-08-2000 23:01:23

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Bright Koolats
Listened to the short presentation, live.

All sunshine up stock holders collective skirts:

Surpassing all projections
20,000 paying subscribers
Touching testimonial about someone’s Grandma using the Internet for the first time
Only 1 small "good kind of a problem to have" was a shortage of flat screen displays
Deal with Disney content
Something about an ACTIVE MATRIX display
Filling all "minor" backorders
No mention of Circuit City or CompUSA
Alliance deal with 2 major Asian hardware manufacturers (Can't remember who, they were droning a bit)
Second Factory opening up just for the iopener with the current manufacturer
Etc.

WOW! Gotta, get me some of that $6 stock! (Sarcasm)

05-09-2000 15:02:12

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Bright Koolats
Oh.. I almost forgot!

They mentioned an effort to add ASP!!!!!!!!

(Application Service Provider) Citrix?!

(Also, the ACTIVE Matrix part might be wrong, but that is what I remember)

05-09-2000 15:06:48

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Perlguy
It is archived at the same link now.

Yes, it was a complete bunch of B.S. since nothing at all was mentioned about Circuit City or CompUSA distro problems. Nor were the modifications addressed.

There *was* something about ActiveMatrix screens, but I think that is a new product that they will be coming out with.

Just got my ver3 i-Opener today, can't wait to hack it...

05-09-2000 15:25:44

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) emtnman
What a bunch of BS... a summary:

Legal disclaimers, happy technophobe stories, rosy pictures painted ... "delighting the customer" ... "30% growth from referrals" ... "Reduce backlog by mid-summer" ... "Unexpected surge in demand" ... "Plenty of supply to fulfill any expectations" "Things are going very well" (Notice how they carefully word this... they have enough supply to meet "expectations" while not explicitly saying there's not enough to meet "demand")

Nearly $1.3 million revenue $632k subscription revenue, growth from 3,700-20,000 subscriptions. Sales from peripherals (high-margin mouse and printers) $659k. Order volume 70% from website and 1-800 number, 30% from "unexpected retail demand." (Would that be us?)

Due to "unexpected growth," a $41.7 million net loss... That's a $1,200 cost per new subscriber aquired! They are quite proud of this, as this was 16% lower than predicted. Expecting a "pretty rapid decline" in customer acquisition cost. Have plans to "rent" software (consumer ASP) on a monthly basis. (Another thought: at $21.95 a month, assuming it was all profit, it would take almost five years to break-even at the current acquisition cost.

Overall an $83.8 million loss after including an additional $48 million "non-cash" loss from stock options being exercised. An additional income of $133 million acquired by IPO.

Any questions?

Return rate is 13% Devices can be redeployed via a "refurbishment process"

Plenty of supply to meet "internal and external expectations" the only problem is "servicing demand" ... adding a second assembly line, new designs with TFT display, extending relationships with Sharp and Hitachi. "Were in great shape"

Adding Disney and eBay content as strategic partners.

No further questions...

Hackers, what hackers? No mention of any hacker-related redesign issues or costs... Of course, when each subscriber costs $1,200, we probably seem pretty insignificant.

An interesting exercise in corporate doublespeak...

05-09-2000 16:37:11

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Interesting
Aside from the normal smoke and mirrors and the business speak. What I found interesting was the 13% net churn rate (customer turnover). It was mentioned that units that were returned and refurbished were resold. I assume they are selling them as new. It is my understanding you cannot sell open items as new by law thus the many "open box" items you can buy at CompUSA, Best Buy, etc such as computers and peripherals. Could this be another legal mistake on NP's part ??

Not impressed at all with the broadcast. The broadcast mentions 20,000 subscribers. Does that 20,000 include those that did not subscribe, but just bought the hardware?? It seems I remember seeing posted on the BBS previously that their first manufacturing run was 20,000.

Without a vision the people will perish!!

05-09-2000 17:00:05

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Interesting
Aside from the normal smoke and mirrors and the business speak. What I found interesting was the 13% net churn rate (customer turnover). It was mentioned that units that were returned and refurbished were resold. I assume they are selling them as new. It is my understanding you cannot sell open items as new by law thus the many "open box" items you can buy at CompUSA, Best Buy, etc such as computers and peripherals. Could this be another legal mistake on NP's part ??

Not impressed at all with the broadcast. The broadcast mentions 20,000 subscribers. Does that 20,000 include those that did not subscribe, but just bought the hardware?? It seems I remember seeing posted on the BBS previously that their first manufacturing run was 20,000.

Without a vision the people will perish!!

05-09-2000 17:00:06

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) emtnman
The interesting number will be next two quarters, to see how many of these subscribers were "forced" to subscribe and then drop off... You can expect that this will be glossed over in happy terms, just like the $1,200 loss per subscriber they have now. Guess they plan to "make it up in volume!" ;)

Pulling some numbers out of a hat... If codeman has sold 1,000 kits, it's probable that the total hacked IO systems are in the 1,500-2,000 range. That would account for about 10% of their production last quarter. 2,000 units with a $1,200 loss per unit would come to about $2.4 million in hacker-related losses... a tidy sum, no doubt, accounting for 5.7% of their $41.7 million net loss. As they would say, this was probably within expectations... :)

With $133 million income and an $89 million loss they are swimming downstream fast. Their current stock prices make another offering pretty unlikely.

05-09-2000 17:51:10

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Randy
What a waste of 18 minutes' listening time (better spent with an MP3 of Rhaposdy in Blue...)

Where was the single important question "Mr. Savage, what percentage of device sales have resulted in ongoing service contracts?" since that is where they need to make their money...

05-09-2000 21:22:19

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) LittleDipper
Perhaps my earlier speculation that NPLI was running out of surplus passiv matrix LCDs had some truth. If they now are forced to use active matrix LCDs the cost is on titally different level and will it take NPLI even longer to make money. The big attraction with the I-opener is the LCD screen and that is what has distinguished them from similar offerings. NPLI can however never compete with a hardware solution a an essential business advantage with Gateway or Compaq if they choose to enter this business segment. G and C are buying computer parts to low prices on a scale that is unthinkable for a company like NPLI and the internet service that NPLI provides has yet to show that it is offering something more. To me NPLI's busimness plan has been unrealistic from the very beginning. It can only make sense for the initial shareholders if they had succedeed to pick up a lot of customers from the very start so the company could be sold to Gateway, Compaq or a similar company.
05-09-2000 21:39:44

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Upside_down
A great bit of news buried in the lack of meantion of the hack problem - they appear to believe they have gotten rid of us. I guess we can stop worrying what "fix" they will send us with each one we buy, they've stopped us with the V3!!!

BTW - I know someone has been tracking the revisions - I just got one with a female demo voice but no TORX screws. And not the "tons of goo" reported on some V3s (perhaps gone through the "refurb process")

05-10-2000 05:52:08

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) emtnman
You know, those TFT screens could be cool. Heck, I'd even pay $199 for one of those babies! ROFL
05-10-2000 13:20:02

New MessageRE:LISTEN TO NETPLIANCE LIVE! Tuesday, May 9, 5 p.m. Eastern Time on the net -- shareholder meeting! (modified 0 times) Shadow
I think the estimate of 2,000 hacked units is WAY low. Every compUSA received 10 or more units, all to hackers. CircuitCity also recieved 8 or so units each. That has to be closer to 6,000 or more units. I also think alot of people didn't use the codeman's kit. I hacked 3 units without it. I just can't believe that NPLI is around $6.. amazing.
05-11-2000 11:49:56

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