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New MessageFighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) FreznoSmooth
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About a year ago I first found this webboard. It is the first webboard I truly got into and checked daily. Everyone here holds a sense of community and friendliness. The past week I have been reading some stuff that does not belong on here. I don't care how it started, but it needs to go. I hope Codeman takes care of a couple of the people in particular. They are polluting and disturbing a very productive and interesting group of people. I firmly believe this webboard is a strong one ,and for those who are being abusive and insulting to others, get out or get a life. Either way you most likely don't belong here. ~The FreznoSmooth~
05-11-2001 13:00:25

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Could you direct us to the posts in question?
05-11-2001 13:23:46

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Programmer
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never mind.. it's here in the news..
05-11-2001 13:25:24

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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I couldn't agree more with you.
From now on, I'll just ignore InMemoryOfFred's personal attacks, but it would really help if others came out and told him to come to his senses. I've been weathering that unwelcome storm pretty much alone, which is a bit disheartening. I've got a lot more to contribute here !
05-11-2001 14:40:01

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) FedUppp
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I'm in agreement with FreznoSmooth. Dump 'em both.
05-11-2001 15:04:27

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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thanks
05-11-2001 16:03:47

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) vagitizer
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FresnoSmooth and others...
I've been on this board for over a year also, and check it pretty much daily. There are other like me that do the same. We've added information to this board, learned new things here, shared information, we've joked on this board, and also poked fun at people on this board. For the last thing, we this to protect this board from people that come on and add -zero- value, except to add a message to every thread. Look a group as large as this can not and will not get along with everyone all the time. When someone comes out of the wood work and becomes a thorn, people see this and try to excise it out, or change it's ways. This thread is a perfect example. What happened. You posted a message, others agreed, and BANG!! Here he goes again. Instead of just shutting up and riding the tide, no... he or she, has got to spout his or her head. That's the problem. If you don't understand the principal maybe this message will explain it. This thread and all the others will soon make it to the bottom of the list. But it only happens when the problem either leaves, or changes it's ways. Sure it's pain in the behind. But let it run it's course. Now I'm sure that we will see a post from the thorn, as a "I've got to have the last word", no fret. I just had to speak my peace on what I've been viewing.

And if anyone doesn't like my email address, first, bite me, and then maybe I'll change it to alex8899349390@aol.com - real creative!!

Alex

05-11-2001 16:12:25

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) vagitizer
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Hell I didn't even have time to type my post in and that reply came. NOW I'M P'D

Yellow1 just flat out leave.

05-11-2001 16:14:46

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) codeman
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ok guys i'am kinda tired of this crap we don't need to
go back to the fred m days of fighting and abuse
i DO NOT want to have to start banning people and IP's
There is NO reason for this crap if you disagree with
someone you don't not need to verbally harrass them ..
just make a reply but be NICE your point
will come across better any way.

This is just a hobby we are here to have fun
if you can't do that then don't POST !!!

codeman

05-11-2001 16:16:48

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Agreed, and I'm not trying to have the last word here as some are convinced I am.
All I want to say is that in spite of the senseless bullying (calling people "thorns", telling them to leave, etc...)some seem they think they can pull off hidden behind their screens, I'll keep on contributing like for the GW Connected Pad WinMe vs Win98 discovery as well as the web site I've set up: http://orchycam.hypermart.net
Again, let's keep this excellent board free of personal attacks, and if anyone has any venting they really have to do take it offline and send me an email at keith@popstar.com.

Thanks Codeman.

05-11-2001 16:45:10

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Greenspark
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Yellow1, from another thread, you have a strange concept of rude. I told you where to find your answer, answered another question, and suggested how you might go about finding answers in the future. That was being nice.

You *don't* have to reply to every post directed at you. You have more posts in 3 weeks than most people have in a year, try to relax a bit and search a little instead of asking and re-asking questions that have already been answered.

And forget the flame wars. They're not worth it.

05-11-2001 17:08:36

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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It would have been even nicer if you hadn't started your message by
"Not to get on your case..." Do you REALIZE what kind of message this sends...probably not.
And now you have the nerve to come back and say, "you've got a strange conception of what rude means..."
Get off it.
05-11-2001 17:19:46

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) info
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Gee, It takes a minimum of two people to get into and feed a conflict (unless one is standing in front of a mirror, then dude has a serious problem)
All it takes is SOME MATURITY and NOT RESPOND to obvious flaming or abuse! It will eventually die out...In other words don't feed it!
05-11-2001 18:03:43

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) FedUppp
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I reviewed Greenspark's messages again, yellow1, and I think Greenspark was being rather nice. It looks like you take serious offense if someone disagrees with the way you present yourself here. Basically I agree with him (and others) here. You show up about 20 days ago, and then you post more in a few weeks than most of us do in a year -- which is fine except we're all trying to keep the bandwidth down a bit so that the main info comes through. On the other hand, many of your postings run something like this: "Yeah, but did you try the cable? [end of post]" If you review some of that, you'll see that the answer to your question could have been gleaned by either reading (previous comments) or by relaxing (and waiting for the answers which were imminent from those with additional info). Your defense runs something like this: "What's the matter with the way I am here. I'm contributing. Look at my web site. Is there anything wrong with asking questions?" Moreover, you have an irritating habit of dominating threads in which you participate. Take a look at the number of posts you generate as opposed to anybody else's number in any thread in which you've participated. It's really hard to get across to you because you take such horrible offense (to wit, your responses to vagitizer, Randy, and Greenspark).

My message to you: Don't go away. Just be quieter. Listen more. Talk less. Much less.

Feduppp

05-11-2001 19:51:51

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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I do take offense when people barge in being rude, yeah, so what ? Someone who starts with "not to get on your case" is not being "nice", that's it.
I also find it interesting, "feduppp" that you talk about people being members for a year and yet you've just signed up on the board as of 5/9/01 exactly around the time InMemoryOfFred started ranting and raving...I guess you're happy after having unleashed the basic instincts of some of your trashy and faceless colleagues and got everyone else upset by now.
As a closing statement, I can't but help but wonder why this is the only msg board I've seen where so many of so-called "members" don't provide an email address...What's up with that ? Afraid Mummy's gonna catch you with your pants down ? I also hate it when these same people think they know better than others and feel it's their duty to police their way around. Guys just mind your friggin' business ok. You're not that great, in fact you're probably pretty average Joe's at the end of the day.
This obviously doesn't apply to great guys (who surprisingly don't hide their email address) like Ryan, Badflash, MisMan, Busdepot, Codeman, etc...
With Internet Appliances being virtually dead and future one's like Sony's eVilla being unhackable, it's going to be less interesting around here...Time to move on.
05-11-2001 22:52:36

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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rereading codeman's post, it's just dawned on me that InMemoryOfFred was a clear reference to this Fred m guy...so you all new what he was trying to do.
i get it...well if some of you guys want to behave like you're in sect, fine, just hope you don't go down in flames...
how sad.
05-12-2001 00:33:03

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) 4thWAVE
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uH, Yellow...as in your website going down in ######...It really sucks...Do us all a favor and shut up.
05-12-2001 07:14:21

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) FreznoSmooth
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Sorry to be the one to say this, but this "bickering" is not what needs to go on. All of you who have any question of if you have been rude or abusing, then quit it. If this continues I will talk to codeman personally. This trash does not belong here, some threads have occasional abuse but this crap is leaking all around the board. And those of you who started it, you know you're guilty! Comon Guyz, we're definetely much smarter than this, and for those of you who like to taunt and or abuse other members its most likely because your insecure about your knowledge or yourself.

~The FreznoSmooth~

05-12-2001 08:23:40

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) parasyght
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i just wasted the few minutes i have in the moring reading this thread, bummer.
05-12-2001 09:12:16

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) NormConquest
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InMemory seems to be an obnoxious buttmunch, unfailingly negative and unconstructive.

Yellow makes admirable technical contributions and I'm glad he's here.

I'd respect him a lot more if he'd acknowledge he's been needlessly provocative.

It's possible to immensely valuable and a bit of a dork at the same time.

As everyone who remembers Fred can attest.

05-12-2001 09:50:11

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Ah yes, Fred M. Remember him well. There is a bit of similarity. I liked Fred M. Too bad he got himself kicked off this BBS...It's been about a year now that he's been gone. He did have some real good input and was very helpful for some folks at times!
05-12-2001 12:14:49

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) friar
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My fellow 'brethren of the hack' -- time has shown that working together on a project not only has more chance of succeeding but also succeeds faster. What one lacks is made up by another, and we are then made into a very successful force. Codeman (for example) is great, but I think even he would admit that he wouldn't have had the resources (time, energy, knowlege) sufficient to bring to all of us the great wealth of hacking projects that all of you have brought to this board. I haven't brought very much, many have brought more, and I hope there is never an 'admission price' to participate of having to present X amount of hacks before you are 'accepted'.
If a child repeats every single word you say, how do you shut them up? You ignore him. After a while he'll go somewhere else. This is the way to deal with obnoxious posters, because you rob them of their power over you.
None of us are being paid to come here, but we can still all be adults and professional with each other in order to accomplish common goals.
05-12-2001 15:59:36

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) parasyght
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friar has a point, if we ignore them, then they will look for attention else where; however its much more fun to tell them how stupid the are acting, dont you agree?
05-12-2001 23:03:22

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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if anyone's interested, both "InMemoryOfFred" and "Feddupp" have been uncovered and are none other than good old Randy !!!
I'm shocked !
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=aolgw&Post=76&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

Isnt't there a rule somewhere about not using multiple IDs ?

05-18-2001 14:54:58

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Greenspark
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Yellow1, FORGET IT. Didn't you praise Randy in this very thread?
Just let it go, isn't worth it.
05-18-2001 15:06:51

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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No you're mistaken, somehow my instinct was already on the right track...
Sorry of this multiple moniker uncovering is not pleasant news, but one is always better off facing the music. A bit like if your kid is caught stealing from a candy shop I guess.
05-18-2001 17:20:03

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Randy
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LOL, this is getting fun! I'm not only Inmemoryoffred, but I'm also Fred. Finally, and this is the kicker, I'm also Yellow1. Yes, the truth hurts more than you know.

Randy
ePods hack web site

05-18-2001 17:31:31

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Go away Randy, trying to say you're everyone won't make the fact that you "reactivated" InMemoryOfFred today and made a fool of yourself at the same time go away. You're just making it worse and more obvious to everyone that you're playing these silly games.
You really are a pain in the butt, get a life.
05-18-2001 19:28:05

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) BubbaDog56
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Yellow1,

Let it go, or go away. You have contributed little in the way of meaningful discussion, and way too much in cluttered bandwidth and excessive sensitivity. I only need to compare Randy's great site to your MS FrontPage junk to see who's really serious about helping folks around here. Randy built his site to enhance what is discussed on the ePods forum here, you appear to have made yours as a 'look at me' exercise. Hell, you didn't even know you had a GTC with ethernet until someone questioned your postings regarding what you said about network capabilities of your system. As I mentioned before, I've been called out on things that were either misunderstood or wrong. And I took my ass-kickin' like a man, apologized when called for and learned from it. Life goes on, and it's way too short for this stuff....

B'Dog

05-18-2001 20:07:38

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) yellow1
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Bubbadog, just shut up, ok and stop using words like crap or junk when referring to other people's work, it's moronic.
Let me just refresh your memory on the Ethernet thing you bring up. When I first posted about finding the Ethernet drivers, I said I THOUGHT I had been given the HPNA version and when I found out I didn't I simply acknowledged it. No big deal.

For the rest, I took the initiative of swapping emails with Randy and although in disagreement we've agreed to call it a day, so please respect that.

05-18-2001 22:20:17

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) friar
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<END OF THREAD>
05-19-2001 00:22:48

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) Greenspark
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Stay tuned for the next installment of yellow1's "How to win friends and influence people".

Coming soon to a thread near you.

05-19-2001 07:05:45

New MessageRE:Fighting and Abuse on Linux-Hacker BBS (modified 0 times) codeman
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ok this is getting old it is now closed
codeman
05-19-2001 11:03:35

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