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New MessageCeiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) mooner
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Has anyone made any progress in hacking the Ceiva picture frames? I see that compgeeks have the frames on sale for $68.50. Not bad, but the $60 bucks a year for the service of storing pictures online seems a little steep.

Just woundering..

Thanks

mooner

10-13-2001 12:26:33

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) DMasier
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http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PHOTOFRAME
10-13-2001 21:18:32

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) amused
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I'd think the Kodak Smart Picture Frame by Storybox Networks would be a better candidate for this since it has a CF slot. Don't think the Ceiva does.

http://www.storybox.com/

Besides, screeen is brighter, if smaller, I think.

Wonder what happens if Storybox Networks goes under. Would Kodak buy them back? Allow them to be used w/out the network? Seems unlikely such a major co. would just abandon them.

10-13-2001 21:40:39

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) mooner
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But have you seen the prices of the Kodak Smart Picture Frame, its $300+ bucks plus $10 a month subscription fee...OUCH.

The cevia is now at a point were its worth buying the frame just to mess with it, if you can make it work with out subscription you have the perfect solution for the NON computer (usually grandparents) type in your family to see what’s going on with the family.

I’m almost tempted to buy one just to try. I’m sure the first call it makes is a 800 number, and retrieves your account information (I read that you cant hook it up until you have created an account online) then sets up a local number if available, if not you have toll charges. But wonder what it does from there? You would think that it’s not too complicated. Is there a packet sniffer for phone lines? Probably just downloads everything that’s in the remote directory and disconects..Hmmmm.....

Any thoughts?

D

10-14-2001 10:57:13

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) Drogue_Anathema
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The ad for this implies that it only displays up to 10 images - that's half the capacity of the Ceiva frame we bought my in-laws for Xmas (it's on the other side of the country, otherwise I'd have tinkered with it already). Is this a scaled-back frame for Polaroid to sell, or is the ad wrong? If the former, I wonder what else they scaled-back on it to get the price down to $70.00? Caveat emptor.
10-15-2001 12:26:02

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) DMasier
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I recall hearing/reading that the number pictures held increases after it updates the BIOS (or eq) in the frame. I can't swear this is true (at all) but supporting info may be elsewhere on the net.
10-16-2001 01:28:05

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) DMasier
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Here's a hefty link for you at Deja Newsgroups (now Google). Writer confirms upgrade to 20 pics after first auto connect.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=tgqh905rliltbf%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DCeiva%2BPicture%2B20%2B10%26hl%3Den%26rnum%3D1%26selm%3Dtgqh905rliltbf%2540corp.supernews.com

10-16-2001 01:33:49

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) yikesman
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I don't have a digital picture frame, but it sounds like a good idea. Both sets of parents live in different states. My parents have a computer and a cable modem, so emailing them pics isn't a problem. My in-laws however, don't have a computer at all right now. They're the only ones we can't email pics to.
I'm not crazy about the $5/mo service fee, but it's cheaper than most ISP's. Plus, it gets you a 800 number to dial, which would be good for my in-laws, since they're not in a major metro. area. Even if we could hack the Ceiva to get around using the 'Ceiva network,' how would you handle getting pics into the frame?
10-16-2001 07:13:22

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) Perplexer
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I have a couple Kensington digital picture frames I bought direct from Kensington last year for $99 each. They can't be much more than that nowadays, on ebay etc.

They have a 7" LCD screen, store up to 24 640x480 images, and come with pretty decent software for loading the images via USB port. No silly subscription needed.

Kensington's web site offers the frame at $199, and their lesser version (12 images at 320x240) for $99.

http://www.kensington.com/products/pro_c1359.html

10-16-2001 12:27:46

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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you have them, why didn't you thought of taking a peek at what's behind the back cover? it may have ide port 44pins? or ? and look at chips too
particularly the big square chips
10-16-2001 20:32:43

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) yellow2
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I got the Kensington 67100 for $40 today, but although the box says 640x480, their website says 320x240...Least I can say is that I'm NON-PLUSSED !!!!!!!!
I'm gonna open that sucker to see what can be done to upgrade it. It's a shame there's no CF slot !
12-02-2001 17:59:06

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) yellow2
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little progress so far...they've put some strange screws in rhe back, kinda like reversed torx for lack of a better word ! Hopefully that means there's an easy memory upgrade
12-02-2001 18:49:56

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) mentalmike
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check this out, they come back in stock now and then.

$99.00 also has a compact flash slot

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=kspf-2000

12-02-2001 19:20:12

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) bobm
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I just went to storybox.com and they're gone. Now we need to find someone with the internals that's willing to share...
12-03-2001 14:37:37

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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Kensington picture frames $49.99 at MicroCenter. These are USB-based, require no subscription or service, store about a dozen pictures and have a 5.7" TFT screen.
12-03-2001 17:40:47

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) yellow2
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Kodak picture frame just came back in stock at the Geeks !
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=kspf-2000
12-06-2001 19:52:20

New MessageRE:Ceiva Digital Picture Frames (modified 0 times) pipa
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I think we should have a thread called Kodak Digital Picture Frame :)
I got my KDPF from compgeeks for $99. It is the NON-NETWORKED version. It has all the networking features in the menus (and has a phone line jack) but when you choose them it says they are disabled. Has anyone figured out how to enable them? Ideally, we could enable the networking features, then figure out how to have it downlaod pictures from some other site. i.e. Hook this up to my Windows machine via the modem and it dials out (to my Windows box). Then, on my Windows box I fool it into thinking it has reached storybox.com (with some DNS trickery) then somehow we tell it to get the pictures from some place like http://www.mypersonalwebsite/kdpf - then it would automatically download pics from where *I* want it to.

OR, we let it go to storybox.com through the Windows machine and use a packet sniffer and analyze the communications between storybox.com and the frame to se what's going on - then we just have to simulate this. Perhaps I could write a Java Servlet to do the storybox simulation.

I know someone did something similar with a Dreamcast to make it use his broadband connection via the DC's internal modem. Maybe it can be done with the KDPF?

First things first though - we have to enable the networking features (maybe just a BIOS change or something?)

If anyone has a networked-enabled version and can set it up to sniff the traffic, please do (and post the results)

Brian
joystick AT NOJUNKMAIL pipa dot NET
remove NOJUNKMAIL from the above to email me

12-21-2001 12:25:30

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