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New Shuttle bare-bones system.
All-in-one w/aluminum case

New MessageNew Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Check out this new system....what a cool starter package.

http://www.viahardware.com/sv24_1.shtm

10-18-2001 03:44:20

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Kudos to "Old Dog" the original discoverer of this machine,

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=bnews&Post=504&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

10-18-2001 04:02:45

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Well I'm ALL GIDDY...
I just broke down and bought one of these Shuttle SV24 Barebones systems from Fry's Outpost.com $256
Should be here tommorrow!

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1572

Barebones (NO CPU) http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3202331

Barebones with Celeron 1Ghz http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3206411

I like this setup better than the Barbie
Comes with Firewire too!

I'll sell off some of my "D-Dived" stuff to support this new project!

01-03-2002 09:22:00

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Last night I scored on a "D-Dived" Teac 32X CD-ROM Drive that is dark grey (Pulled from an HP Computer). I was wondering what I could use it for that would match until this morning! Now it's found a home!
01-03-2002 09:25:55

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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=sv24&image1.x=13&image1.y=8
01-03-2002 09:32:05

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I got my Shuttle SV24 today and I'M VERY impressed! Fast service too! 24 hrs. (Airborne express $7)
Pulled the SV24 out of the box as soon as I got it, The online photos don't do it ANY justice...
It's a work of art! Awesome looking machine! The brushed aluminum cover and front panels are very well done.
I was even impressed with the box it came in, Very professional, like a laptop box. It did not have that Cheap look that some imported product containers have!
Has an inclosed manual,quick start guide and box of hardware.
Also includes a low profile cpu fan!

Yeah $256 bucks may seem a little spendy but so far I'm VERY happy with the SV24.

I give it 5 stars too! *****

01-04-2002 23:04:18

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Scored on a Celeron 1GHZ Cpu for $79 at Hardrives NW (Oem 1 yr warranty)and got 2 more Pny 384 Meg ram $35 combo packs @ C-USA today. Installing 2 256mb sticks. I have a brand new Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm that's been needing a home...
Just looking for a grey floppy drive and that should be it! Going to install a legal free copy of Windows XP when all put together.
01-05-2002 21:37:31

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Some rather interesting discussion about the Shuttle barebones systems.http://www.tech-report.com/news_reply.x/3037/
01-07-2002 12:33:16

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Some pic's...http://ripclaw.free.fr/SV24/
01-07-2002 12:41:52

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) xiaoren
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How good is the TV-out on these boxes? Some folks on usenet were complaining about bad TV-out quality.
I would buy it if I could get good DivX/DVD playback results on a TV.
01-08-2002 11:48:07

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Epsilon1
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It is an AWESOME looking machine! ALL ALUMINUM CASE like the lan-li.
http://cluboverclocker.com/reviews/system/shuttle_sv24_barebones/index.htm
I'll be getting one too.
01-08-2002 16:54:00

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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One more review,http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q1/020111/index.html
01-14-2002 09:23:54

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi,
Well the "Pandora Plus" is out, and orderable from Japan... costs however about $450 delivered to the U.S. more info here... http://www.soldam.com/products/pandora_plus/index.html

If anyone sees this fella for $250-$300 in a U.S. online store please post here:-o

Thanks!

01-16-2002 00:02:50

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Like this one too! Looks like it uses a notebook CD-ROM Drive...

http://www.soldam.co.jp/barebone/phrase/index.html

01-16-2002 14:14:33

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) BubbaDog56
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DVD and Firewire, hmmmm....

B'Dog

01-16-2002 19:42:11

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) poppagene
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there must be a new model coming out. Someones been dumping a lot of them on ubid.com lately. search on sv24
02-06-2002 18:53:45

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) pdp11
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Here's the link to the Ubid Auction:

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=6536796

Interesting thing is that the max bid allowed is $699. Would anyone
actually bid that? Price is already at $170

02-07-2002 07:13:28

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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Does this thing work well with a large TV as the monitor? I'm talking for running windows, games, and of course divx playback.
02-14-2002 08:40:53

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi jw7u,
Over the years I've had several (about 4) video cards with output to TV, the SV24 has the best output of any of them without a seperate video card. While great for video games, there are some limitations in ntsc... I have surfed with it, but for example right now I'm on a 20" LCD at 1200x1600 and well come on, even a double sized ntsc tv won't have the resolution I do here... if you want to do some surfing, some email, and a lot of gaming or video, you'll be very happy... if you want to do alot of intense reading you'll of course require a monitor.
02-14-2002 18:49:44

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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How is the sound output on this system?
02-15-2002 13:02:50

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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jw7u,
Regarding sound the SV24 is OK, I'm no audiophile as long as it doesn't skip and sounds good (I play some music, but generally am not big into ultra quality speakers or sound cards) I'm happy... I have a Creative card I paid about $80 for a few years ago (a pci card) on a 550 Mhz dual processor system, to me with the same speakers they both sound about the same... there are more options for the creative (both in terms of playback, and record).

I'd mention that both SV24's use 1.1Ghz Celerons, one runs Win ME the other W2K there is no noticable (to my ears) sound quality differance between the 2 operating systems on the SV24. Outpost was selling the SV24 bundled with a 1.1Ghz Celeron for $299. Supposedly the sound card on the very soon to be released SV25 will be better than the SV24's and will support the newest PIII core/Celeron core at upwards to 1.4Ghz, though rumors are the video may not be as good as the SV24, not having read anyones direct experience mostly it's rumor. The viahardware forums have someone who works for shuttle and reports some facts on upcoming similar products. However for $299 with decent video and audio we're pretty happy with what we've got right now. When something bigger and faster comes out we may own a 3rd (that dual 550Mhz Celeron system well it's gettin a bit long in the tooth).

Finally, if you don' like the sound on the SV24 or related products you can always add a sound card, there IS a PCI slot.

02-16-2002 08:12:16

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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I just got one off ubid for $185 + $16 shipping.. damn good deal in my opinion. I should have gotten more. I'm thinking about adding a PCI video card to make it an all around system. Any one know if a geforce2 PCI will fit?
02-18-2002 10:47:49

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi,
Without going into too much detail the viahardware forums have several threads regarding pci video cards... it depends on if you require digital out or not... some seem to fit amazingly snugly... it'd seem unfair to just snatch the threads from there and post em here... happy reading!
02-18-2002 12:26:26

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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can you send me a link to a thread? I did a search on "sv24" and found nothing.
02-18-2002 12:31:20

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) johndierks
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I got in on that deal too. I'm really excited. Search for shuttle, and it should come up. I justed looked and there was only one for auction there. The $185+ (god awful) shipping had 101 units for sale. Wait a day or two; I'm sure there will be another big one.
02-18-2002 14:40:29

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Yipes,
They converted bbs formats a short while ago... hang on... here's some info... the following have digital video out...

Inno3d Tornado GeForce2 NVIDIA MX400 32MB DVI+VGA PCI
Colorgraphic Predator Pro 2 (2x Savage4) PCI DFP/DVD-D
Appian Hurricane (ATI RADEON VE engine) PCI DVI

If you hdtv the following was most recently posted (it's not out yet but you can preorder)..
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/xcard.htm

Generally Geforce2 MX PCI cards fit, as do RADEON VE cards (or All in Wonder Radeon PCI). I've also vaguely recall a few comments about a PCI Geforce4 MX though think that may have been in the usenet newsgroup... alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.shuttle a quick google found VisionTek MX200 seems a happy camper... but there are others... the viahardware forum has a shuttle employee who posts and answers directly questions... if you need more, I have printed out the old thread from viahardware and could go through it looking for specific card mentions... however if you have a candidate I'd just post it... some cards didn't fit well and some didn't fit at all... they really should have preserved the threads better... the visiontech mx200 card is reported to have the following dimensions (LxWxH) 14.25x2.875x9.688.

If this helps, while the video of the SV24 is reported by many to be awful... and it cannot do for my own needs... my wife and daughter are doing just fine (even playing some less than ultra intensive games, diablo, sonic-r, wacky races, dig dug and similar type games). They render faster/better I think than my GF based Hercules AGP card on a dual 550Mhz Celeron system. The Celeron at 1.1Ghz is kinda the fastest systems we have... and while the video may not be the best 1.1Ghz can make up for numerous problems in that area. The biggest problem is it's analog out only (as far as VGA is concerned) and has a max res of 1024x768 (my large LCD is 1600x1200 and I'd prefer to use the digital, thus the SV24 cannot handle it).

02-18-2002 20:32:58

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Ahh ask and you shall find... the sv24 thread (with a ton of useful info) can be found at ... http://bbs.pcstats.com/viahardware/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=7284&highlight_key=y&keyword1=SV24
02-18-2002 22:15:56

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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>>the visiontech mx200 card is reported to have the following dimensions (LxWxH) 14.25x2.875x9.688.

How the hell does that fit??

02-19-2002 08:50:08

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I found one of these http://www.visiontek.com/5564.shtml Pci version awhile back "D-Divin". Evidently it was accidentally thrown away. Hasty clean up? I was not going in to the store to ask...
I almost passed it by too, but noticed the box had a little weight to it when I moved it with my retreval tool. The video card was still enclosed in a sealed ESD bag. The box was soaking wet but the card was dry, protected by the esd bag.
It looks like it will fit the SV24. I'll check it out this weekend if I get time.
02-19-2002 11:43:38

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi jw7u,
That's why I hate importing stuff from elsewhere, it kinda sticks... I wonder too but the thread was I think on the via newsgroup (small systems I think) hope it helps... at first I couldn't find the honking giant thread where sv24's were first discussed at great length... however I was pointed to it on the forum and gave a pointer above.... I don't want to defend someone elses post... if it fits it's darned snug!
02-19-2002 13:49:02

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Easystreet
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I snagged a Ubid SV24 on the same auction. It should get here about the same time as the Envision 15" LCD monitor from the Staples rebate deal. Anyone know where I can find a wireless keyboard with a trackball that's kinda like the I-opener keyboard?
02-20-2002 18:38:57

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) BubbaDog56
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Easystreet,

Look on eBay, there's a wide variety of new & used ones. I picked up an AirBoard wireless with trackball & programmable multimedia/internet hot buttons for $17 a while back to use with the iNet PC in the living room....

B'Dog

02-21-2002 06:26:42

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Easystreet
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Got it today......waaaayyy cool. Has anyone tried to overclock it yet? I must have an old bios since it doesn't seem to have that option for me to try. Since I didnt install a fd no point in messing with it unless there is a good chance of success.
02-21-2002 15:43:21

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) johndierks
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I'm having problems installing XP. It goes great until it gets to "Saving Settings" and then it completely hangs. I've tried a few times. I've got the shuttle w/ celeron 950, maxtor 40gb drive, 256mb of ram.
02-27-2002 03:26:59

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Well,
Over at http://www.shuttle.com they've announced the SV25, SS40 and SS50 (Tuatalin, Athlon and P4 based boxes respectively). The SV25 is in the same form factor, the SS40 and SS50 are slightly larger but have 2 PCI slots instead of one... however sadly none of em have DVI
02-27-2002 22:05:22

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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wow, got mine setup today.. this thing is awesome. My favorite thing is that it TV outs as soon as you turn it on. It doesn't need to go into windows and adjust settings before TV out works. I fired it up with a 1ghz celeron, 128Mb ram, and 40GB Maxtor. It's pretty quick. I played some counterstrike at 640x480 D3D mode and it was playable. It was fun playing that on a big TV. Does the Savage 4 have any win XP drivers? I couldn't get the TV out to work with XP for some reason.. so I dual booted 2000 and it works beautifully. i'm thinking about putting in a wireless ethernet card in the pci slot.. that should be cool. This thing is awesome!
03-01-2002 08:45:05

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) h2oboxer
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Is anyone else having trouble with http://www.shuttle.com ?
I am unable to connect
03-01-2002 11:18:09

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Should be...

http://WWW.Shuttleonline.com
http://WWW.Spacewalker.com

03-01-2002 12:13:09

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SS40
IMHO Best one yet!

http://www.shuttleonline.com/spec.php3?model=ss40


Also like the NV2000

03-01-2002 12:29:00

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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OK, I got mine a few days ago and also got my price-adjustment refund after Fry's dropped their price from $249 to $229. I guess the price drop is in anticipation of the Tualatin, Athlon and P4 variants. I still have a few days to decide whether to return it and wait for the Athlon.

The main drawbacks of the SV24, IMHO:

1) No joystick port;

2) Onboard graphics is Via-Savage, which is light years behind the GeForcen;

3) Only one PCI slot, so after the obvious upgrade of the graphics with a GeForce2, there's nothing left for SCSI or a joystick;

4) No infrared keyboard/mouse support built-in to the motherboard.

As it stands, this is not an X-box killer, yet. I'll take a look at the SS40 when it becomes available, to see if it can be used to crush the X-Box.

03-01-2002 12:35:31

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Joystick = USB type!

IR Keyboard = Silitek (Has external Black IR receiver connects to com ports).

03-01-2002 13:03:00

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) jw7u
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Does anyone know how good the Sis315 graphics chip is? Better than the Savage 4 I hope.. it will be found on the new ss40 and ss50, according to shuttleonline.com

If it is good, i think it would be the perfect mini computer.

03-01-2002 13:49:39

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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OK, I got the whole shebang set up, P-III/800, 256 MB, 30 G HD, GeForce2 MX400 and Mandrake 8.1. It looks like a keeper. A few points:

1) Use of the supplied heatsink and fan seems to be the only way to fit a GeForce2. Most other heatsinks and fans are too tall.

2) The supplied fan is too noisy (need to find either a replacement low-profile fan/heatsink, or at least a fan that mounts on the supplied heatsink).

3) Depending on the height of the DIMMs, there can be mechanical interference with the PCI card. I have a standard full-height DIMM that clears the GeForce2 card by less than 1 mm.

4) The GeForce2 (Visiontek Xtasy) is auto-detected and the onboard video gets disabled without any BIOS settings.

5) The P-III/800 Coppermine runs really cool to the touch, and the whole setup is stable as a rock, even with the GeForce2. Ran for 12 hours without a glitch (after that, I gave up and powered down). What gives? I've seen notebooks with 800 MHz Celerons that run hotter.

6) I tried a Samsung SD-608 DVD drive with a dark grey bezel, but found that a standard white bezel Pioneer matched the brushed aluminum better.

7) I found a Logitech USB gamepad for $6.95, but haven't tested it with Linux yet.

8) The Adaptec Quartet PCI 4-port Ethernet card won't fit, so other solutions have to be found in case the Linux Router Project is being considered (looking for a half or 2/3 length PCI card).

9) The Osprey 1000 video capture card fits.

10) There's no CDROM audio cable supplied, but it's a standard type with the black 4-pin connector to the motherboard.

11) Still thinking up a wireless keyboard solution that mounts in the 3.5" bay for the floppy drive and connects internally to the KB and mouse ports - no easy solution in sight. The wire may have to be squeezed out through the hard-drive mounting bracket and plugged into the ports outside (very kludgy).

03-03-2002 20:31:36

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) bad_packet
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HEY!!!

The newer ss40/50's are coming out in several weeks that use Athlons and P4's. Supposedly, selling price is ~350 for these. Onboard graphics are supposed to be much better, and they are using quieter fans.

03-05-2002 05:08:16

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) bad_packet
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Doh! Didn't see thelast page of posts....
03-05-2002 05:09:36

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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OK, I finally found a 4-port 10/100 card that will most probably fit. This was a Phobos P430, that I found locally on closeout, new but without documentation or software, at a computer bargains outfit for $29.95. This has four DEC/Intel 21143 (Tulip) 10/100 NICs on one 2/3 length card, with *four* unique MAC addresses, but sharing *one* PCI interrupt! Perfect for OpenBSD or Linux-based router projects, like load-balancing or firewalling.
03-12-2002 12:59:59

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Amazing how prices drop on tech toys,

I just picked up a Shuttle SS40G for $159 at Computerstop here in Seattle on Aurora.

Yea, it was a store "display model" but the insides appear virgin.

Usb 2.0 is kool. But one downer is no AGP slot. Oh well, I have a ATI 64MB PCI Video card that needs a home.

One day I may get lucky and find one of these Shuttles in the trash....

04-19-2003 14:07:19

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) PeteC
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<jw7u> I set up my SV-25 with 246 Meg of memory, PIII 1200 FC II, MPEG I&II TV/FM/Capture card, Ricoh combo DVD/RW drive. Running XP pro video drivers both for PC and TV loaded and worked fine. Updated video from WWW site. Now I want to sell it and move up. Nice machine. What's it worth?
04-22-2003 14:56:29

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This guy is creative! http://www.talix.com/
05-12-2003 18:51:42

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Gosh, New toys, toys, toys......Hopelessly addicted......http://www.xenarc.com/
05-12-2003 22:38:33

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) dozens
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I am thinking of getting a Shuttle and run a 24x7 server. How quite/noisy are these units ? Can any good deals on them at the moment ?
06-24-2003 11:45:29

New MessageRE:New Shuttle bare-bones system. (modified 0 times) transiit
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I had a SV24 for a while, and there were two big problems:

1) Noise. These things are pretty far from quiet, although I've seen references around that you can mitigate that somewhat by replacing the power supply fan. I learned to live with it.

2) The power supply gave up the ghost pretty quickly. Apparently, this was a pretty prevalent problem. Shuttle was supposedly pretty about replacing the PS, but it gave me the heebie-jeebies, largely because this was a pretty proprietary beast. If you were creative, you could wedge one of the ATX inverter boards (often seen with the Mini-ITX systems) in its place and hook up a power brick to it. I had one running this way for a bit, but it seemed pretty haphazard.

Perhaps a better option would be to go with one of the mini-itx guys out there now. Via seems to be taking the lead on these (one of the C3-based systems isn't so bad if you're running a small server that doesn't need to do any specific high performance apps), but I've also seen reference to p4-based systems with this same form factor.

your mileage may vary.

-transiit

07-06-2003 02:11:17

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Yup, I agree there were a few bugs in the SV-24.
But as with most "NEW" products that is usually typical.
The latest Shuttle Xpc products have shown great improvements in reliabilty including the powersupply.
An OEM I know has ran a P-IV 3 Ghz with a 128MB Agp card on a latest Shuttle demo 24-7 without any problems(200W PS). Yes fan noise still exists on hot days! The newer units bios run the cooling fans at a lower speed until overheating then kicks in to high speed mode.

Noise is not to big of an issue with me because after 18 years working as a heavy aircraft repair tech on the flightline, being exposed to jet engines noise (Even with hearing protection) has taken it's toll on my hearing. (Huh? TURN IT UP! I SAID TURN IT UP!) Actually it's really not that bad, I can hear the cooling fan on this machine I'm using here (cover is off) but I have learned to just ignore it or tune it out (Kinda like noisy kids .

07-06-2003 04:10:27

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One thing I forgot to mention is spare or replacement power supplies for these machines are next to impossible to get here locally. I've been asking around for several months now. I have YET to find a used one in my recycling excursions, All the OEM's keep them or RMA the defective to Shuttle.
07-06-2003 04:21:55

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Just for archival information purposes, (Future references)

http://www.us.shuttle.com/shop.asp?cat_id=4

http://www.xopenonline.com/pdetails.asp?itemID=823

http://www.ajump.com/ajump/dept.asp?dept_id=4070

07-06-2003 04:32:54

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