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Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) numbski Profile http://www.aberdeeninc.com/ABCATG/KITSFX.HTM Hopefully that's the right link. Takes a celeron 533. $200 gets you the kit with chip. 12-08-2001 06:43:59

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) numbski Profile Oops, $150 gets you full kit with chip and RAM. My bad. :) 12-08-2001 06:44:41

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) numbski Profile Gawd I'm tired. There's a $30 rebate on top of that. Gotta love it. 12-08-2001 07:13:00

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile Pretty neat system.....This was originally sold as a Barbie or Hot Wheels computer....company now OOB. I paid $200 for mine at a computer show, complete with Win98, and a 30 gig HD. These are available many places from $69-$200 depending on how bare you want it. It supports a 533 chip maximum.....no possibility of over-clocking. Contrary to the company info...Windows XP runs perfectly on it. I only had to search around to find a modem driver that worked...the W2k version works on XP. Sold it a few weeks ago....but it ran without any problems for me. 12-08-2001 08:35:03

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email CkBone - Were else have you seen it for $69-$200 ?? I am interested in getting one for my kids so they leave mine computer alone1 12-08-2001 09:14:26

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile http://www.pcliquidator.com/barbie.htm 12-08-2001 09:28:01

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Reverend_Jones Profile Barebones, starting at $59.00 (on sale) http://www.directron.com/directron/barebone1.html 12-08-2001 11:02:30

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) YouBecha Profile No serial port? is there a header on the MOBO? 12-09-2001 07:41:13

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) aadam12 Profile | Email Apparently there were a lot of problems with these machines. Complaints about Patriot Computers - The company that made these. Drivers - for motherboard, audio, modem, and video devices. 12-09-2001 08:28:25

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) aadam12 Profile | Email Barbie Computer on E-Bay - with lots of software and accessories - last time I looked, the bid was $830.00 12-09-2001 08:34:07

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) laserfan Profile Regarding the problems people had with this, in looking at the software bundle delivered with it, it's no wonder! Add-in the likelihood that kids would put any free CD on it that they'd pick-up at K-mart or whatever; well, what would one expect... 12-09-2001 10:12:08

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile OMG......Can you believe the bids on that E-Bay auction? I sold mine for $350 with a monitor and speakers. Should have painted it pink.....maybe threw in a cheap camera and printer...Jeez. Anyway, mine worked fine...no problems at all. Had it dual-booting W98 and XP when I sold it. 12-09-2001 13:52:37

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) smee Profile Minor point: these things are small, but I wouldn't call them tiny. They're actually a lot larger than you might think, though there isn't a whole lot of wasted space inside. 12-09-2001 14:55:18

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Try em here for $44 http://www.package2you.com/cgi-bin/miva.cgi?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code=90-1300 The case,cd-rom and floppy are worth $44 and get the Gateway flex mb on Egay for $30 shipped. $52.80 here http://www.ttasuperstores.com/default1.asp?uid=80d5l5ddQ1&Seller=e-stop and they have matching keyboard and mouse for $13.70 Anyone found a nice flex case other than the In-win? 12-09-2001 22:54:09

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Geez, couple dozen sales like this and I could retire! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305287380 12-10-2001 03:48:49

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Amazing... Three of the Barbie computers went for $1000+ on eBay this month. I bought a couple of the "sanded" machines for family members. I was going to paint them black and give them as Xmas presents. Maybe I should paint them pink and put them on eBay . There seems to be a business opportunity here... Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-10-2001 09:40:54

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile i strongly suspect many of these exorbitant prices are being paid by Barbie TM fanatics looking to have a collectible - they probably don't even care whether it works well, or not . . . to each their own 12-12-2001 05:01:40

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile keith721: Yep, I assumed that they were being bid on as "collectables". However, there does seem to be a bit of eBay madness going on. You have this auction going on. Right now, the bid price is $60. By clicking on the links on the eBay auction page you can find the identical item from the same vendor for $48.10. Then there is this auction. Look familiar? There doesn't seem to be any "collector value" there. Granted, many of the bids seem to be from newbies, but not all of them. I have always been amazed by the dynamics of eBay. If I were a psychology student I would try to write a term paper on this subject. Either that or a paper on what makes the techno geeks on this board tick . Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-12-2001 20:23:15

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 3dMan Profile | Email Well I think these would be great machines that you can give away as gifts for people. I just bought two I plan on giving one away to my sister for college papers and things. Should be a nice small machine to do them on. Not expecting anything fancy from it but heck for the price you can't beat it I think. So I used http://www.package2you.com/ to order from shipping was a little higher then I expected but not to bad I figure since I'm in NY and it's shipping from Texas. Here's what I ordered - 2 usb mice (nothing special here) 1.25 Total 2.50 - 4 usb keyboards for 2.50 grand total 10.00 - 2 of the barebone systems 48.10 Total 96.20 Shipping: Ups Ground 25.02 (not sure if this is a fair price or not, we'll see what the packages look like when they get here) no Sales tax for Me ;) Grand Total: $133.72 Hope that the system should out for my sisters papers. Usb is the key to these I think. I have memory and one celeron lyin around I just need to get harddrives for the computers in question. Anyone know a good place to get harddives? =) - 3dMan 12-14-2001 09:48:25

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile Barbie Power! I just bought 4... thinking about another 4. I see 8 sitting in a rack, networked together, I see... Barbie Beowulf Cluster! -wireless 12-14-2001 15:48:53

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile My Barbie's arrived today. I've assembled them and have started testing. Here are a few tips tat might save you some time. 1) Save the flat headed screws that are provided for mounting the hard drive. If you used "taller" screws the drive carrier won't slide in. 2) Mount the hard drive in the "middle" location. This way the hard drive cable will reach. 3) Attach the front panel light & switch connector to the "more populated" side of the motherboard connector. The connector looks like this: oooooooo <-- xoxooooo where the o's are pins and the x's are missing pins. The connector can be attached two ways. Bias the connector toward the arrow side. For those that plan to network the machines; Kudzu found a great deal on USB to 10/100 network adapters. Click here to check out the thread Well, that's enough for now. I got to get back to doing more testing <g>. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-14-2001 16:29:45

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Technical specs on the motherboard can be found here: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/oem/index.htm Scroll down to the BP810 Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-14-2001 17:03:23

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Whamo Profile | Email Do I understand correctly that this kit will support a 533 celeron? I downloaded the BP810 tech specs and it only lists processors upto 500MHz. Of course, tech specs written September 1999. Also, any suggestions on where to acquire the cpu. I'm not having much luck finding a 500MHz or a 533. 12-15-2001 05:08:33

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Directron.com has PPGA 533 for $37 12-15-2001 10:05:13

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile I was hoping that the motherboard would unofficially support FCPGA Celerons. I've tried a PowerLeap NEO370 adapter and a Celeron 600 FCPGA. No such luck. All I accomplished was letting the smoke of the CPU. Well, there wasn't really any smoke, but the CPU is toast anyway . It looks like the machines are being shipped with the latest BIOS. Based on the change notices, P05 was the last update before the board was discontinued. I've seen Intel update BIOS's after a board was out-of-production. However, I'm not too hopeful to see any new updates for the BP810. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-15-2001 13:39:35

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Does anyone have the cd-rom playing audio cd's?..........there isnt a connector from the cd drive to the mb. My CPU isnt here so I don't have it running yet. 12-16-2001 11:32:32

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Easystreet: Yes, I have played music CD's. At first the playback was not very good. There were quite a few momentary dropouts. I was able to fix this by enabling DMA for the CD drive. I'm running a Celeron 300A. You may not need use the DMA setting if you have a faster CPU. I didn't notice any connections on the motherboard for the direct CD input from the sound card. The sound mixer shows an input for the CD audio. There is likely a place where these inputs could be hacked on to the motherboard. Alternatively, the CD drive output could be spliced into the Mic-in connector. I'll probably just keep it the way I have it (if it ain't broke....). Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-16-2001 12:17:17

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile I've come to the conclusion that the USB ports on this machine are somewhat underpowered. I started having problems with devices attached on 3 or 4 of the ports (depending on the devices). Two devices never seemed to cause a problem. Switching to a powered hub seems to have solved the problem. YMMV. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-17-2001 21:20:52

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Media Player 7.1 from Microsoft supposedly will play audio cd's without an audio cable. I haven't tried it yet....mb on the dang Barfie is dead(it won't boot anyway). 12-17-2001 22:01:55

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Randy Profile I thought my motherboard was dead too, but it turned out that I had put the front panel controller on wrong. Check out a message earlier in this thread regarding this -- it's a bit confusing, but if you take a look at the motherboard and the connector in question while reading the message here, it will suddenly make sense, lol. Once I had hooked this up correctly, voila, the thing booted just fine. Randy 12-17-2001 22:08:00

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile Just a word of warning on this, I saw the Barbie PC spec sheets listed on PC Liquidators (I think), and then I ordered and rcvd it from Directron (I think). Be aware, some Barbie PC's have a 10/100 NIC on board, and some don't (like mine ). make sure you know what you're getting... Regards, -- Bob 12-18-2001 12:29:36

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile I have the front panel connector installed correctly(actually I have tried both ways). It still won't boot or even whimper. The PPGA Cel 533 and PC100 SDRAM work ok in another mb and the power supply works(turns on the CPU fan) when connecting green and black. 12-18-2001 14:46:45

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Here are a couple of driver tips for WinXP: Modem driver can be found here: http://www2.driverzone.com/drivers/motorola/ACL-W2KINTEL82D1of1.exe The Linksys USB100TX driver from the WinXP install CD didn't work for me. I ended up using the "older" Win2K driver from the Linksys. Here's the direct link: ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/usb100tx.zip I've also have done a WinME install. All of the stock drivers seem to work fine. Everything but the modem was recognized right away. The modem driver aadam12 provided a link to (see above) seems to work. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-18-2001 15:27:34

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email If the unit is not powering up: Take the case off, reach in from the right side (if you are facing the front of the 'puter) and find the power button leads (make sure the power cord is unplugged!!) Mine were not connected well. Took the switch off the front, turned the button 90 degrees in the connector, re-installed onto computer, works fine. Hope this helps! -- preacher 12-18-2001 15:50:55

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Easystreet: It sounds like you either have a bad motherboard or a bad power supply. You seem to have eliminated everything else. The fans starting is a good sign, but there could be a problem with the 3.3v or 5v supply outputs. I would try the motherboard with a know working power supply. I tested my boards this way before I installed them. Connect the power supply & monitor, then short the power-on pins on the front panel connection header (see manual for pin numbers). If this doesn't work I would call for a RMA. I don't think there is much else you could try. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-18-2001 19:29:20

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) gadgetjon Profile | Email these things work great without the case too. It's all enclosed in metal except one side where the power supply is. You guys had me all worried about painting the case. If you like an industrial look, leave the case right off. only drawback is no handle, and you need something to poke the power switch with. Now if you ever find the hot wheels cases, let us know :^) (the hot wheels model was blue and yellow with hot rod flames on the side, and came with a steering wheel) 12-18-2001 20:35:23

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) smee Profile You can still attach the handle without the plastic case. Remove the plastic panels from the "outer" metal case. The inner box slides into this outer box. It's completely enclosed this way. The handle attaches to the outer metal case. Then you have your industrial look...with a bright pink handle on top. Mine has the plastic panels on it, but it is now a solid bright red. Reminds me of the Emperor's guards from Star Wars. Only problem now is that my keyboard is still the original silver. The standard keyboard does not disassemble well for painting and I didn't want to mask off all of the openings around the keys. 12-19-2001 06:11:58

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile I've created a Yahoo photo album & briefcase for info on the BarbiePC's. Please feel free to add photos of your modified machines and upload any drivers/documentation that you think would be helpful to others. The login name is Barbie_PC and the password is barbiepc. http://photos.yahoo.com/barbie_pc\http://briefcase.yahoo.com/barbie_pc I'm really looking forward to seeing how everyone is modifying the color scheme . Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-19-2001 10:12:16

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Lets try that again... http://photos.yahoo.com/barbie_pc http://briefcase.yahoo.com/barbie_pc 12-19-2001 10:28:13

linux? (modified 0 times) Kajoob Profile I might break down and buy one of these badboys, has anyone tried running linux on it? Seems pretty basic hardware and should work, but I'm curious if anyone has tried. 12-20-2001 00:14:38

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Here one of the Hot Wheels version on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311746264 12-20-2001 06:17:00

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 3dMan Profile | Email I've gotten one up and running, things that I noticed. - The heatsink matters, the one that came with mine wouldn't fit with the ram installed, I had a genuine intel heatsink which worked out, so I didn't have to bend the other all up. but I put a piece of plastic between the heatsink and the ram just to be sure I didn't short out anything. Has anyone else run into this? - Installed winMe without a hitch and not all I need to do is get the case painted. - If your not careful with the floppy cable you can push in one of the pins because I didn't realise that that the cable would go in both ways. (scratched my head on that one for a bit, it would recognise that drive but wouldn't read the floppy... pulled the pin back out and it works great.) - I haven't run into any problems with the Usb power, but I only have a usb network adaptor installed, so I don't think I'm taxing it. Finished this last night pretty late so I hadn't really had a chance to play to much with it. Other then that it runs pretty fast and does what I wanted it to do. _3dMan_ 12-20-2001 08:03:00

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile I am just putting mine together now. Mine came from Package2You. I also ordered the 400 MHz Celeron from them... The memory needs to be installed before putting on the CPU Heat Sink. If you do that I don't have any problems with the Heat Sink straps hitting the memory... The Heat Sink can go on one of two ways. Just put in on the right way and all is ok. I suppose if you have extra tall DIMMs there could be an issue. But with DRAM so cheap, go buy a (newer) 128 MB DIMM ($10-$25) or 256 MB DIMM ($25-$40). That should fit ok. Regards, -- Bob 12-20-2001 15:57:16

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile I ended up installing tall DIMM's in my machines. I used two pair of needle nose pliers and bent the heat sink clip. The clip handle closest to the memory slot can be bent about 45 degrees toward the heatsink. With this mod there is plenty of clearance between the handle and the DIMM. The handle can still be used to remove the heatsink. You can remove the heatsink without removing the memory, but it is much easier to remove the memory first. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 12-20-2001 16:17:49

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 3dMan Profile | Email The tall dimm is all that I have avalible at the moment as well, if you have an retail intel heat sink you should be able to install with out a problem. The next one that I do I'll do the 45 degree bend deal that Glitch suggests. Not a big deal but I need to get some more components for my next one. Has anyone tried linux on it I don't see why it wouldn't work I just didn't get a chance to put it on before it became a christmas present. _3dMan_ 12-26-2001 15:13:04

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile I got 4... 3 booted up... 1 deader then a door nail. BOTH case AND motherboard bad. 4 cases and boards picked from the batch and I picked the bad case AND Mobo at the same time... what are the odds? Anyway, the working ones look pretty nice. A few points though... no pci expansion slots but there are usb ports. usb networking is the only networking option. One ide controller... maybe a usb compact flash for development is the best alternative for the typical IDE/CF environment. For completeness you might want to get more screws- mine had the least amount of screws possible to hold it together. 12-29-2001 16:27:42

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Whamo Profile | Email Just wanted to pass along what I thought was a good deal. I stopped by Office Depot this morning (12/31 AM actually) to pick up some memory for the Burbie I broke down and ordered. For $34.95 I got 256MB of the low density (which I think this motherboard requires for the 256MB)32X64 PNY memory. Supposed to be $54.95 with $20 mail in rebate, but they could not find the rebate for it, so manager gave me the $20.00 as an "instant rebate" and credited my Discover Card. Also, when you purchase the 256mb SDRAM you get a free copy of Norton Antivrus right there in the store. (yeah, we all have multiple copies of antivirus software but who's going to turn down something free?) Now if anyone has a line on super-cheap USB keyboards....package2you was out when I ordered the Burbie. Still waiting to see what everyone has done with their cases. Post those pictures in the briefcase Glitch set up. ----Blasting through the restriction quotas my wife has placed on my computer purchases--- whamo 01-01-2002 01:35:09

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile $3.00 Gateway 2000 USB keyboard with internal hub and two ports P/N 58-5995 Description 104-key Windows® 95/98 USB Keyboard at http://www.mcmelectronics.com/Search/sku5.jhtml?SKU=58-5995 Happy New Year !! 01-01-2002 07:54:28

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile I paid $5 for the Gateway keyboard at a computer show. This is a neat product...you can also find it with a ps2 port on the board, rather than another USB port. You will need to download the Gateway software to get the special keys working. This works on all windows versions. 01-01-2002 08:58:29

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile FWIW....my keyboard looks somewhat different from this board. Mine has 12 programable keys on the top.... 01-01-2002 09:03:56

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Whamo, C-USA has a 384mb combo special (256mb and 128mb PC133 package deal) for $34.99 I got Pny with the Norton AV CD inside. You may try going back to Office depot with the C-USA ad and see if they will throw in a 128mb stick with your previous purchase! 01-01-2002 22:12:08

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile What the heck am I missing? Windows 98SE installed. I downloaded the 41101060.exe sound drivers and can't get the onboard sound working. Yes, sound is enabled in bios and nothing is muted in volume control. Should Sound Blaster Emulation be enabled?.....what settings? Has anyone used sound drivers from the included cd?....which ones? 01-03-2002 01:00:32

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Randy Profile Easystreet, mine came with a text file that may help. I followed these instructions, and everything worked without a hits (also Win 98 SE here). Randy --- Installation Procedure for Windows 98 & Motherboard Drivers Steps for Windows 98: 1. Insert Windows 98 CD 2. Follow Installation Instructions 3. Boot into Windows 98 Steps for Motherboard Drivers: 4. Goto windows start menu > settings > control pannel > system 5. device manager > system devices > advanced power management support 6. double click advanced power management support > settings > troubleshooting menu > force APM 1.0 Mode. 7. reboot 8. insert driver cd 9. goto D:\Drivers\INF 10. Run Setup > reboot 11. goto D:\Drivers\Video\Graphics 12. Run Setup > reboot 13. Goto Control pannel > Add new hardware > follow setup 14. highlight PCI card > driver > update driver 15. choose CDrom > it will find modem driver 16. Goto D:\Driver\Audio 17. Run Setup >reboot 18. Insert Driver CD > Goto D:\Driver\Audio > then insert Windows98 CD 19. You have sucessfully completed your Windows98 and Motherboard Driver Setup. 01-03-2002 13:31:13

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile I have everything set up ok except the sound. The driver cd I recieved must be different...........I have an audio folder with Cmedia,Codec and Creative sub-folders. From what I have read the Advance Logic AC'97 drivers therein should be correct.......? What is the name of the audio device that you have in Device Manager? 01-03-2002 14:24:52

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Whamo Profile | Email Okay, it's late and I'm tired, but Randy, in the instructions you list step 8 as Insert Driver CD. What driver CD? Like I said it's late and I'm tired, so I'm probably not thinking straight. Did you get a cd of drivers with your barebones kit? Yikes, I didn't. At this point I can't even get the modem set up. Think I will goto bed and start fresh in the morning. 01-07-2002 00:39:37

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Randy Profile I did get a CD with my unit with all the drivers on it. Zipped it's 12.8 megabytes. If somebody has an FTP directory I can upload it to, I'll put it there for you. Let me know. Randy 01-07-2002 06:39:13

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Randy: I set up a Yahoo account for the BarbiePC for just this purpose. Info to accesss the account was provided earlier in this thread. You may need to split the file into multiple pieces to upload it. I recommend that RAR be used for this. You could also use a ZIP compression/splitter. Email me if you need some help with this. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 01-07-2002 07:24:16

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 1 times) Whamo Profile | Email Randy, thanks for the fast reply. First question out of my sons mouth this morning, "Did you get the new computer fixed?" Aaargggh. Thanks for the help.........Whamo 01-07-2002 07:28:43

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Thanks kids............I uninstalled stuff and downloaded drivers again and got it running nicely. I like these little 'puters.....need to sell the Barfie and Easy-Now and the Gateway flex and get the Shuttle box.....haha. 01-07-2002 21:40:41

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 1 times) Randy Profile Oops, sorry I didn't check back into the thread until just now. I'll get those files uploaded today (Tuesday). Randy 01-08-2002 02:19:26

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Easystreet Profile Here's a bone I picked up at Anand forums........ "I just noticed soem auctions on ebay for puters with the bp810 mainboard. They are being sold with 766 celeron chip. I amialed the question: how did you get this board to take a 766 cleron processor? The doccumentation from Intel says that a 533 ppga celeron is tops. Is there a bios update that enables the BP810 board to safely use lower voltage fcpga celeron processors??? answer was: Actually, there is an actual modification you can make on the board that allows the higher processor. We were given this info by Intel themselves. Anybody know how to do this??" Any ideas? 01-09-2002 21:28:51

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Whamo Profile | Email Also from Anand Forums: http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/370mod/ This is way above my level of understanding. Any opinions as to if this would work with the barfie? 01-10-2002 04:39:09

Problems w/ Barbie motherboards (both DOA?) (modified 0 times) Fuzzball Profile I will admit right now I am an idiot when it comes to basic electronics. But either I am a much bigger idiot than I thought or both boards I ordered from Package2you arrived dead and I would like some objective help to determine what it is. (bitchsmacking accompanied by help is also welcome) Note: I have tested the ATX power supply in another system and it works fine. 1) In the following chart, if 'o' represents the pins, 'x' represents the missing pins, then pp represents where the power switch should be, right (pins 6 & 8)? oooooooo xoxoppoo 2) When the two 'pp' pins are are in contact via pressing the power switch then the motherboard and ATX power supply fan should come on, regardless if any memory or CPU is in the system, right? I have tried both using a known good switch and jumping the pins and still get nothing. 3) Two BP810 boards, one is bare, one has the CPU / FAN / Memory and both act dead as a doornail. What should I do before I can be reasonably certain that both boards are dead and need to be sent back? 4) Could it be a grounding issue? I am just not confortable enough to automatically pronounce that both boards are in fact dead without some more informed input. Thanks! 01-12-2002 03:27:15

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Whamo Profile | Email Fuzzball-try replacing the cmos batteries and see if that helps. Good Luck-Whamo 01-13-2002 01:43:11

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) gadgetjon Profile | Email I had the same symptoms (wouldn't power up). CMOS battery was dead. Thanks Whamo. 01-14-2002 15:02:53

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile I had the same problem with 2 of mine... I replaced the batteries with a RadioShack CR2032 equivalent. They power up now. 01-14-2002 22:05:56

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile Any opinions as to if this would work with the barfie? It will if the bios has PIII microcode. Keep a pair of small needlenose pliers, a pin, and a fine narrow soldering tip handy if you want to extract the pin without having to break it off. 01-15-2002 01:48:26

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile I have a strange problem with one of my Barbie computers... When I copy files from the cdrom to the hard drive, after a short time, during the copy, the machine will spontaneously reboot- very reproducable. The other Barbie I currently have does not do this. I have copied HD to HD on the problematic PC (cp -pr /usr /tmp/junk) and the problem does not happen. It would seem just from CD to HD. I also check the connections of the IDE bus. I may swap out the cables and the CDRom Drive and see if the problem follows/goes away. The Linux distribution of choice so far is SuSE since it does not seem to crash on install. RedHat (with Gimp packages installed) will crash an install everytime, on either machine. Strange. Took out the package during install and Linux installed fine. I have noticed that during installs, the video is a bit flakey/flickerey. After the XFree86 4.X is configured properly this behaviour goes away. Also, if you do not configure it and just use the SVGA or default setting, the machine will spontaneously reboot during use. The SuSE 7.3 install seems to do best with this video issue. As a side issue, a collegue of mine said he had a very similar Video experience until he installed the latest Windows video driver from Intel. I have alot more of these things coming... I hope I don't have so many problems. -wireless 01-17-2002 11:26:31

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) atemybuick Profile wireless, I''m wondering if the power supply may be dropping out. I don't own one of these things (yet) but I understand the power supply is pretty small. Do both you systems have the same hard drive, speed, etc.? 01-17-2002 12:07:45

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Also may want to check CPU voltage and temp. Good heatsink contact with CPU? 01-17-2002 12:21:57

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) gadgetjon Profile | Email thanks for all your help and advice guys. Any idea why mine won't boot all the way from floppy or hard drive? I've tried different hard drives and floppies. I can boot up to a win95 menu and then select command prompt only, but it hangs soon after that. It boots fine all the way from my NT CD. It's got a celery 366 and 256MB that I know work in another system. 01-17-2002 13:10:51

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Randy Profile I know it's been mentioned before, but that front-panel connector fits into its oversized motherboard socket two different ways (the right way and the wrong way, lol -- only both look "right"). When I first put mine together, the damned thing was just silent; pushing the power button did nothing. Then I switched the front panel connector from one way to the other way, and voila, it worked when I pushed the power button. It's very possible that some people are reliving my dilemma and somehow missed the posts in this ever-growing thread regarding the solution. Randy 01-17-2002 13:40:43

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile atemybuick, good point about the PowSup! I have had 1 bad PowSup already... I will try a different CDRom and Cable and see what it does. If the problem remains, it may very well be a PowSup problem. -wireless 01-17-2002 16:42:24

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile 02U2, I don't think it is a CPU, temp problem, but I will consider that possibility too! Thanks!! -wireless 01-18-2002 10:58:46

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile Well, I think my cdrom problem has been resolved... I swapped the "suspect" Barbie's cdrom with a good Barbie and the "suspect" cdrom worked in the good Barbie. Ok, put the "good" cdrom in the suspect Barbie (PowSup??) and low and behold, the "suspect" Barbie works without crashing. I don't know, maybe there was a connection problem. 01-19-2002 04:10:42

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) gadgetjon Profile | Email I tried to install XP and it kept rebooting during the installation. Tried another hard drive with XP and that completed the installation, so it seems better so far. Also tried win2k setup floppies and they booted OK. 01-23-2002 05:43:22

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Fuzzball Profile I love my Barfies! But I think I am going to upgrade at least one of them with a much better motherboard and Ebay the old board to help defray the cost difference. Here is what I am looking at: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcati815ef.html But there is also: http://usa.asus.com/mb/socket370/cusi-fx/overview.htm http://www.gadgetpros.com/ecsp6flexsoc.html All the boards feature 2 DIMM sockets and 2 PCI slots. Obvsiouly one would have to do a little cutting and hacking to use any PCI cards with these cases though. The Tyan is definitely the front runner as it has two Ethernet ports. A portable Barfie networking bridge....with a stylish pink handle! Ya can't beat that. 01-24-2002 09:06:36

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) old_dog Profile Fuzzball Here is an article that you might find interesting on the ASUS SIS 630 FlexATX board. http://www.viahardware.com/c3pc_1.shtm 01-24-2002 14:00:53

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile Well, I have quite a few Barbie's and so far they have been batting .500 Half of them spontaneously reboot and half of them are rock solid. I suspect the Power Supply but it could be the MoBo. More testing to follow... I will post my results! -wireless 01-28-2002 09:14:42

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile well I have checked 3 flakey Barbie's with another Power Supply and they are rock solid... I guess I will have to get a bunch of RMA's. 01-28-2002 19:49:48

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Chicago773 Profile | Email So I set up my Barfie computer and the power switch did nothing... tried hard wiring the power switch and nothing... then, I fiddled with everything and at least the fan powered up (by this time I had disconnected all other cables including the floppy drive and hard drive. Any chance someone has a sinple fix for getting this thing to power up reliably. I've reviewed the above posts and not sure if this is the same situation. Any source for a replacement power suppy (one that is the correct size). Any suggestions appreciated - thanks in advance. 01-30-2002 07:46:10

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Chicago773 Profile | Email I forgot to clarify in my previous post that I have not replaced the CMOS battery (yet) - for the people who had to replace the battery to get the Barfie working, were your symtoms similar to the above? 01-30-2002 07:50:18

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email 2 of mine have had similar symptoms. Fiddling, sometimes fan would come one, sometimes not. Replace the CMOS battery (Walmart, $1.64 in the photo department) and all was well. I have put together 6 of these little ladies for area school yearbook offices, and these are really turning out to be pretty reliable machines. Thinking seriously of trying one of these in my car as a MP3 player (sans case). Hope this helps. 01-30-2002 11:26:57

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Chicago773 Profile | Email Where are these drivers? I don't think mine came with a CD and the links above are dead. I can't even find them on the Intel site. Help! Thanks in advance - any help is greatly appreciated! 01-30-2002 18:44:33

I posted a photo in the yahoo photo album (modified 0 times) Pete7919 Profile I posted a photo of my Barbie PC in the Yahoo Photo album. I think it would be cool to see other colored Burbies. Also, the drivers can be found in the yahoo briefcase. Chicago773, if you need more drivers I have the CD's. Email me pete7919@@@drexel.edu. Take out the two extra @@ http://photos.yahoo.com/barbie_pc Barfie $49 Celeron 533 $40 40Gig HD $75 256mb PC100 Ram $34 (Back in Dec.) Official Barbie Keyboard $2.50 and mouse $1.25 Awesome little cheap computer $200 01-30-2002 21:06:21

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Chicago773 Profile | Email Thnaks for all the help! New $1.50 CMOS battery and the right drivers and I turned a 'dead' machine into a nice little PC. Again, thanks! 01-31-2002 07:31:14

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile Anyone have the Mfrg # of the Enlight Power Supply? 02-04-2002 09:06:36

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 1 times) poppagene Profile Glitch, I've got a 566 flip chip in a neo powerleap adapter in burbie and I have not fried this chip. Burbie runs at a 66 fsb so if you use the powerleap, you need to set the dip switches for a 66fsb (default settings are 100). Another poster at anandtech has used the powerleap adapter to put a pIII 700 in burbie, it ran but at 66fsb so not worth the effort. I think the celerons up to 766 had a fsb of 66 and so should be compatible with burbie as long as you use the adapter. 02-05-2002 15:24:13

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile poppagene: That is good to hear. I'll go back and see if I may have had anything misconfigured when tried the PowerLeap. I don't recall there being very much to screw-up, but Murphy is always hanging around giving me a hand . I've been thinking about the feasibility of forcing the FSB to 100MHz. I believe that the chipset supports 100MHz. It may just be a jumper wire and a tracecut. Of course, determining where to put the jumper wire and which trace to cut is the hard part <g>. I'd be surprised of this mod hasn't already been done on other 810 chipset boards. It may be a matter of copying that mod for use with the Barbies. I'd love to start researching the 100FSB mod right away. However, I've promised my wife that I will do some woodworking projects for her once I finish up my current computer project. The bad news is I'm slower at woodworking than am with computers (i.e. it may be a while before I get back to computers). Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 02-05-2002 16:44:05

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) poppagene Profile good luck, glitch. By the way, if you're looking for a nice mainboard to fit barbie the shuttle fv24 (a bit pricey) is the best I've seen in a flex atx form factor http://www.shuttleonline.com/spec.php3?model=fv24 02-05-2002 18:11:01

Barbie Burped (modified 0 times) Pete7919 Profile My burbie computer acted really strange last night. I powered it up and got nothing. After a while I came to the conclusion that the motherboard battery must have gone south. When I replaced the battery the machine started to boot and asked for a password. I never assigned a p/w so I tried to move the mb jumper to reset. The Bios said that the password was successfully reset, but sure enough when I moved the jumper back the computer again asked for a password. I finally got around it by assigning a password with the Bios jumper on the reset pin. Now I have to type in that password every time I boot, and I can't get rid of it. Any ideas? Also, is there anyplace to get bios updates for the mb? Are they just on the Intel site? Thanks -Pete 02-08-2002 10:07:50

RE:Another tiny Barebones system. $130 (modified 0 times) wireless Profile I had a similar problem... I took out the battery for 30 minutes and put it back in... No BIOS password after that. -wireless 02-08-2002 12:15:25

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