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Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25!

New MessageWanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi,
Well I was about to bite the bullet for a Shuttle SV25, and along comes the shuttle FV25! It's announcement can be found over at http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1010114157 it looks to have perhaps a better video capability (video processing that is, not connectivity, both seem to have identical connectivity).

Now, if anyone finds one of these on sale somewhere, PLEASE POST HERE I can wait a few weeks, jeez, it's hard to believe how fast this technology evolves.

With a fanless powersupply and a C3 933 it may be possible to get a fast cube to replace my aging I-Openers... though sadly not at $99 a pop

01-07-2002 03:42:53

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Looks like sometime around March 02 for this Mobo...
01-07-2002 12:49:06

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Sigh,
However I did find a link to a place selling those darned cute cube cases ... check out .. http://www.soldam.com/products/pandora/index.html

The shipping is awful... though the cases and colors are adorable!

01-07-2002 23:24:08

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Ahh, gotta love internet... over at http://www.soldam.com/new/index.html they'll be shipping the FV24 motherboard (which supports Tualatin) on January 11... only problem is shipping ($160 kinda bites). Question is how long will it take to get to the US and dealers like tigerdirect?

Anyone with ability to compare the two motherboards (especially video capabilities) please PLEASE comment

01-07-2002 23:32:10

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Change those yen into yankee dollar http://www.xe.com/ucc/
01-08-2002 04:07:31

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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I get $404 (for 1 unit plus shipping) as of about 3AM EST... for a delivered unit, I wonder if they'd discount at a quantity capable of this board if there was interest?

Hmm...

01-08-2002 07:30:57

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) preacher
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$145, in stock

http://www.baber.com/motherboards/shuttle_socket370.htm

Charge $8 for the first $100. Add $3 for each additional $100 value. For example; S&H for a $80 order will be $8 and for a $450 order $20

I have done business with these folks in the past and they seem to be pretty reliable and prompt, but don't really know that much about them.

YMMV

01-08-2002 07:56:27

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Unless I've missed something here...
That's for a FV-24 Mobo?
That's what is currently included with the SV-25 Barebones.

From LOTS of experience... I would hesitate buying the first production FV-25 Mobo run. I would Wait awhile to see if there is any bugs in the design and any Rev's (design changes) after a few months. Jusy my humble opinion.

Remember, the i-Opener has many rev's and in my opinion rev's 4 thru 5 is most desirable!

01-08-2002 09:18:50

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Intel Tualatin may not be such a hot thing after all? http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020103/index.html
01-08-2002 13:51:09

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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O2U2,
Well I read the article in Tom's Hardware, it appears more of a rant against the 100FSB than against the chip itself. Yes, 100FSB is obsolete, 133FSB is obsolete, likely even the 200Mhz buss is too. In a world of 266-400Mhz system bus speeds 100Mhz is slow... well ok.

These cubes offer an alternative to muscle, they aren't more, bigger, faster, they offer less, smaller, cooler and quiter. Tom doesn't appear to be reviewing with such concerns (nor should he, his orientation is toward the processor itself) ...

My thought is a 933Mhz C3 or a 1.2Ghz Celeron (underclocked if possible to 66mhz fsb, this ONLY to reduce power consumption permitting a fanless heat sink solution) would be a nifty quiet system to have around.

A cube such as this permits me to preserve my memory investment in the I-Opener as well as the hard drive, the new system won't be so fast that my 512-2MB cached 4400RPM notebook drive won't be a bottleneck of any staggering proportion. Thus more than half my upgrade investment in the I-Openers is preserved by the purchase of one of these $250 boxes, there is a $50-$120 investment in a new processor. Here the question of the C3 vs Celeron comes up, my belief is I'd start with a C3 but want the option to eventually go with a fast Celeron as an upgrade path. For a cost of $300-$350 I'd eseentially replace an I-Opener with all but screen, an LCD screen 15" runs about $300 depending on where you purchase...

I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on how the heck to just convert an I-Opener into a VGA display:-o This would be like having my cake and eating it too:-o

Anyway, my question is really do I need/want a 2.2Ghz P4 or an Athlon 2000+? At some point these systems have gone beyond my immediate and near future needs, the costs and noise factors are also generally ignored. I've spent too many happy quiet hours with an I-Opener perhaps, with only a small noise of the hard disk searching now and then to really enjoy prolonged sessions on my older multi-fanned system.

Finally, any system I buy today will be obsolete tommorow, in 3 years it'll be effectively junk. I'd prefer to preserve some of my investment... hard drives, monitors, and what not. The only real loss I feel for the I-Opener my daughter uses will be the loss of the screen and ultra small footprint... however her brothers are almost old enough to start to play:-o They don't know it's a horribly slow and obsolete system, in 2 years they'll likely be handed down her horrible cube hehe.

01-08-2002 18:36:05

New MessageRE:Wanted a Shuttle SV25, but now want a Shuttle FV25! (modified 0 times) info
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You could probably trim the base a little bit on a Radius 15" LCD flat panel and stack it right on top of the SV24.
In a sense it would be a little like the new i-Mac...Square is better! And a lot cheaper!

The celeron is a lot better performance wise than the Via C3 (FPU). Yes the C3 runs a lot cooler but intel has a bit more umpfff. I would chose the celeron or a P-III and a good fan.

01-08-2002 22:22:39

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