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New Messagelinux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) codeman
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ok guys
as much as i dont like to do this i just dont have the time to keep up on the site

so if anyone wants to make me a offer on it email me codeman

all domains included
www.linux-hacker.net .org .com


ken segler
aka codeman
www.linux-hacker.net
www.warranty-voiders.com
02-04-2002 21:59:01

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) wireless
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ooohhh nooo! Can this be true? The end of linux-hacker.net?

What do you need Ken to keep it going?

-wireless

02-05-2002 09:08:05

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) 02U2
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If not sold will you give us a week or 2 notice before pulling the plug...
02-06-2002 03:49:39

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of money are you asking? Losing this body of knowledge would be like the burning of the great library at Alexandria.

Ragnar

02-06-2002 08:30:23

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) codeman
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There won't be any pulling the plug I just feel bad for not being able to update the main site
very often i have a ton of stuff to put there just not the time..
ken segler
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www.linux-hacker.net
www.warranty-voiders.com
02-06-2002 10:54:10

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) redwood
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ahhhh, I see the problem!
Ken needs a fund to, Hire a cute little secratary to help him! :)
perhaps...this could be arrainged...?

Just kiddin, not sure how much work goes into this, but, I Really enjoy comming here, its Fine... I don't think yer fallin behind at all, :)
but, I've Often wondered, would it be possible, to d/l this, and burn on our own CD.. ie: faster searches, etc. ?? but, I didn't know if that would open a can of worms?

thanks for keeping the site going!

02-06-2002 13:18:55

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) Kudzu
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There won't be any pulling the plug I just feel bad for not being able to update the main site very often i have a ton of stuff to put there just not the time..

Ken, there are a number of enthusiast sites administered by unpaid volunteers, who update the news, post reviews, and generally do the day to day upkeep.

If it's not a funding problem, why not try something similar?

Kudzu

02-06-2002 23:21:46

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) Randy
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Ken, you could use "COMMUNITY LEADERS"... (I know, I know, this could turn out to be the Linux equivalent of AOL. Shoot me now.) Seriously, the other posters who suggested enlisting unpaid volunteers to serve as Co-Webmasters is not a bad idea. Then, anytime something new comes along (a la ePods or whatever), and there will always be another craze, you can identify one or two trailblazers who are willing to throw up a how-to page or two on the main site. Frankly, this bulletin board seems to be fairly self-perpetuating. This board in particular contains a treasure-trove of irreplaceable information, so I hope that it remains in perpetuity. If you ever get sick of hosting it, perhaps the board could be turned over to Badflash or some other interested party who could make use of the traffic.

Advantages of keeping the site going:
-- preserves invaluable information found nowhere else
-- when "the next big hackable thing" appears that piques your interest next year or whenever, you've got a ready audience of enthusiasts
-- it doesn't have to be a high maintenance thing

If you're sick of selling the kits, discontinue 'em. (My guess is that orders have dwindled to near-zero now anyway. We now await the next big thing, lol, this year or next.) If you still get too much email, just stop answering it. Don't feel like the main site needs to be cutting edge all the time; again, it basically sits there waiting for the next craze, and when that happens it can spring back to life.

Randy

02-07-2002 09:13:00

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) codeman
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ok i have come to my senses and i will not sell the web site
i did get some good offers but most wanted to just turn it into a place for adverts and i didnt like that..

so here is my idea i need a few unpaid(to start) volunteers a web page designer would be the first so send links to sample sites to me
kinda want somthing like phpnuke where we can have news related to what we like ..
would also like to do some web hosting so we can get other hack pages up here.
also we might have linux-hacker.net email accounts .

and if i can come up with a way to get some money for the people that help out by donations, email accounts, archives of the bbs on cd.
then i can pay some people to keep this all up and running..

i will also be in the (unused) chat area tonight if anyone would like to discuss it about 6pm pst
http://www.linux-hacker.net/phpMyChat.php3
give me you feedback
thanks again
codeman@linux-hacker.net


ken segler
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03-01-2002 10:23:32

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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My thoughts on making linux-hacker.(com/org/netnet) profitable...

Keep the domains, Ken.

As Linux adoption grows stronger on the Server front, companies are going to want a starting place to find talent. By spending some time reading posts in "Linux-Hacker" forums, a company's in in-house recruiter could quickly identify someone who meets their Linux needs. (Hardware, Software, Drivers, BIOS, Configuration, etc...) While this might not directly impact your bottom-line, it certainly would be an incentive for the linux-hacker community to keep itself growing. Having a flourishing community is an asset. Having a community of sought-after Techies is a very powerful asset.

Two things you could do to make money with this community: Offer a "Linux Consultants" area, and charge a fee to allow people to post their content. "Content" could be anything -- the ability to post in Linux-Hacker Forums with a special icon next to their UserName that says "I'm a Consultant!"; or a Forum specifically designed for Consultants to enter a single post to describe their talents/services; or even Linux-Hacker hosted mini-websites (home-pages) that do the same thing. Charge a lower rate for "consultants.linux-hacker.net/WildPencil" as a standard consultant web-page; and a premium rate for "WildPencil.consultants.linux-hacker.net" as a premium consultant web-page, for example.

The other thing you could do is offer banner-ads for cool hard-core stuff that we'd be interested in... like rack-mounted cases, or electronics-surplus outlets, or whatever the Linux-Hacker community might be interested in. Note that the REAL trick to successful banner-advertising is not waiting for advertisers to come to you. (When they come to you, the ads tend to be a tragic mismatch). Instead, you should market the Linux-Hacker community to those who have these cool products that the community would interested in. As owner, maintainer, and marketer of this site, you control who gets to put up a banner-ad. By doing so, you won't turn off your community with poorly-selected ads. Otherwise, you'd be allowing "junk ads" in.. and quite frankly, if I *EVER* see an annoying X-10 scroller-ad on this site, I'm DEFINITELY not coming back here. :-p


On another tangent. Having an email address at "linux-hacker" gives an impression of knowledge and credibility. I'm sure there are a few people who'd love to correspond with others through such a sought-after domain. Personally, I'd say that if you can offer email via Web-Interface, Secure-IMAP, or Secure-POP3, while giving reasonable performance and uptimes, I'd be willing to spend between $10-20/year. I'm totally flexible on that if you can offer optional value-added services (such as spam-filtering, blacklists, whitelists, and Server-Side Inbox-Filters that move emails to designated folders within my IMAP directory).

To win people over, though, you'd need to demonstrate the desire and ability to run linux-hacker as a long-term business. If you decide to close shop in two years, and I standardized on a linux-hacker email address, you'd force me to redo my business cards and stationery, and send out letters to everyone I've had contact with in the last 2 years. It's not pleasant. (This is the primary reason why I maintain a permanent email with pobox.com, and never use my local ISP's email addresses for long-term correspondence).


I'm not sure how well archives of this BBS on CD would go. You'd have to snapshot the whole BBS, or provide the SQL database plus the Ultraboard application to read and render the pages. If you know of an easier way.. then maybe it's a different story. All I'd really want would be the IOpener Tech Reference (Moderated) section, as it has most of the raw information I haven't bothered to print out.

Just some things to get you thinking...

-WP

03-01-2002 16:14:05

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) redwood
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well, I tried to enter yer chat.. it must be Too busy? I couldn't register..
Good luck! hope you come up with some ideas... I know its so hard to generate income online... Perhaps, some Angel will help out.. Uncle Bill :) ??
03-01-2002 20:18:28

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) chaezewhiz
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Sorry I missed the chat..:(

Not sure of your current state of hardware, but running the webmail app would definitely require some
additional ass, err... resources. I would definitely donate time and effort into having a @linux-hacker
email though.

Look at postnuke, its alittle easier to deal with, IMHO.

-chaeze


Miracle in a Can
03-04-2002 10:35:08

New MessageRE:linux-hacker.net FOR SALE (modified 0 times) bad_packet
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Codeman,

Just be wary of using PHPnuke. I think amiga.org was using that, and recently was hacked twice.
Cripes, I think you can even get /. code, think they were GPLing it or something a while back.

But then, it is rather barebones... but the Karma might be worth trying :)

03-05-2002 05:05:39

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