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Leap Frog Mind Station
program the Leap Pad, IQuest, etc.

New MessageLeap Frog Mind Station (modified 0 times) Deviant
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Not new, but I just discovered that many Leap Frog toys have a cartridge reader/writer called Mind Station. I just ordered mine in an IQuest(looks like large Cybiko) kit through ebay under $60 shipped. Does anyone know anything about an SDK or hacking information. I think it'd be really cool to make a book for my kid...

background: http://www.leapfrog.com/

-Deviant

03-23-2002 14:35:21

New MessageRE:Leap Frog Mind Station (modified 0 times) flamedog
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Wow! I'm so glad someone else out here is thinking like me...well sort of. At least you have kids...We got the LeapPad for our 4 year old preschooler and the MindStation Leaplink companion--he loves it. The rub is that you have to download the different programs direct to the cartridge which connects via the serial port. You can't save them for future use/reuse...you have to go back out and re-download them. That's the business model--sell you a membership to allow you access to the downloads. Can't argue with that--but would rather find a way around it.

This has to be a pretty easy thing to hack but I'm not confident in how to proceed. I have found some very nice serial port sniffers both for Windows and Linux. These should allow someone to capture what's going on in the conversation. Then if you could just save all the lessons to a hard drive and come up with a way to load them at will??? I don't know if the MindStation is generating some authentication codes on the fly though to make each conversation unique or how tight they've made it. The other option is to find a way to "clone"/"copy" the data off from the cartridge once its there. That seems to me like it might be an easier task. The common cartridges are either 2MB or 4MB. From what I can determine they use a 40 contact (pin) (20 each side) ISA PCB edge connector--there is probably someone who could tell me how that is really described. I've pulled one apart and there are two big black blobs on the PCB...my guess is where they've covered a memory chip and maybe some other interface chip or something. Anyone else out there up for playing with this???

More to your question...once we figure out what the protocol is for sending/receiving/storing the data...we'll be a lot closer to being able to actually produce content. I don't know that Leap is in favor of that though. I have heard that they have considered producing content for adults like "English as a second language" etc... that would use the same LeapPad type of device.

I'll post some more info I've dug up when I get a little more time.

04-11-2002 14:31:12

New MessageRE:Leap Frog Mind Station (modified 0 times) Deviant
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Great to hear from you. Please direct me to any good serial monitor for Windows that you know. I also have another idea. We might be able to log the communications from Leap's server, and then spoof it for ourselves. My attempt at DNS on my personal MS IIS system to override the Audrey channel server did work, so I'm sure I can get my server to do whatever theirs does, barring difficult encryption schemes. Maybe first goal is to just duplicate one of their downloads, though they apparently upload as well since IQuest is supposed to send test scores to them. Ethereal works for me for packet sniffing, but I haven't logged into the Leap system yet. As always, time for these projects is slim.

-Deviant

04-14-2002 19:47:47

New MessageRE:Leap Frog Mind Station (modified 0 times) rtos
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I have recently started looking into doing something that you guys have mentioned here, basically creating content for my 2 year old.
Were you able to do so. I will appreciate all informaton on this.
Thanks.
04-02-2006 02:28:09

New MessageRE:Leap Frog Mind Station (modified 0 times) prpplague
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leap frog is dead to the dev community.

ti've spoken to them several times over the last two years and they have absolutely no intentions of making a SDK available to ANYONE outside their company. i've done tear downs of several of their products. i've not been impressed. they have taken more steps to keep people from making their own software than they have in designing a quality device.


as a side note, we do have alot of progress on the Pixter Multimedia, and will be posting a howto soon:


http://www.elinux.org/wiki/PixterMultimedia

06-13-2006 10:58:46

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