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Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) old_dog Profile The Geeks have an Internet Server Appliance for $199.00 which may be of interest to all you crazy hackers out there. I'm broke. All my money goes to my daughters college tuition. http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3C19504 04-22-2002 06:38:15

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jrmandy Profile im but a newbie..and i could be wrong...but i think any old pentium based pc with a network card and a copy of linux-mandrake could be all you need...not to tote any single distro but thats the one i have tried to use and i know it has all those toys in it just go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com John 04-22-2002 15:40:02

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) ttn1 Profile | Email This appears to be a nice little appliance. I don't see much reason to hack it though. I prefer to build my own machines for serving though, so it doesn't appeal to me. I would be a bit sceptical of support, especially if this is a discontinued item from 3COM. Still for anyone in need of a quick to setup, full-featured server box, this is a good find. 04-23-2002 04:56:47

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) galenaway Profile I received mine in the mail yesterday. I cracked the case and it turns out it's a Sahara-1000 Book PC repackaged by 3Com. Since I want a larger File Server I took out the 10G HD, saved the disk image using TrueImage and then put the image on the 20Gig HD. The 20Gig booted like a champ. I then took out the 20Gig and repartitioned it using Partition Magic to utilize the additional disk space. Again, it booted and ran like a champ. There is definitely a lot of hacking potential here. I need to try it on a larger HD, I have a 120G Maxtor on order from Dell. I plan on adding that to the Internet Appliance to make a large, cheap, semi-dedicated file server. Just to recap, this appliance has a web interface to configure the: Internet connection, firewall, router, email server, web server (include individual web pages for each user), printer server, and file server. It also allows a web proxy server to be enabled and web access privileges to be granted by users (the ultimate home net-nanny). All in all, it's a great value at $199. Yes, you could do all of that with Red Hat and a PC carcass, but this is nicely packaged in a small, quite PC case and doesn't require any futzing. Even the hack is very easy (assuming you have TrueImage and Partition Magic). 04-30-2002 09:01:22

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) bobm Profile galenaway, can you tell us what's inside? is this thing quiet? what are the outputs? What is the OS? thanks, bobm 04-30-2002 09:49:32

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) galenaway Profile The box has a 500Mhz Celeron, 64M RAM, on board sound, video, USB, and LAN (though sound, video, mouse & keyboard inputs are covered - I presume they work but haven't tried them). It comes with a 10.6G Fujitsu HD and a second LAN card. There appears to be room for two more PCI cards. Internally there is mechanical room for a laptop CDROM, but the plastic front will not accommodate a CDROM (at least without the use of a Dremel tool). As far as noise goes, I doubt that it's quiet enough for an audio rack, but it was quieter than the other PC's in my home, work area. Other tidbits, there's only room for one hard drive. The OS is some variant of Linux. It's standard enough for TrueImage and Partition magic to recognize the file system. I believe that Sahara-1000 drivers are available on the Internet so it might be possible to run Windows. 04-30-2002 10:18:27

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) galenaway Profile Oops, a minor corrections. That should read 32M RAM not 64M RAM. Also: http://www.fica.com/products/systems/Databook/Sahara1000/Sahara1000.stm - more data (but keep in mind not all of this data my apply) http://www.belviewtech.com/products/book.html (Picture of an open Sahara-1000) http://www.fica.com/techsupport/bios_and_drivers/bios_and_drivers.stm (driver link - appears to be dead) 04-30-2002 10:32:41

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email Guess I'm trying hard to see the value in this little server box. Unless the loaded software is something really great, one could just built it from parts, use Linux or whatever OS wanted and get the same results for about the same price. I am tempted to invest in the thing, but for just over $200 I can get a pretty good MB, processor, RAM and Hard Drive put my own OS, and software on it.. How about telling us if the loaded software is anything special. Is it Linux ? What software does it include.? 04-30-2002 19:17:37

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) galenaway Profile I agree you, I could build a equivalent system very cheaply out of parts I have laying around at home. But it wouldn't be as small. It wouldn't be headless (which is a plus to me). It wouldn't be turnkey. What I really wanted out of this was a cheap, small, file server that I can put my MP3's on to serve to my Audiotron. The fact that it does so much more and is turnkey makes the deal sweeter to me. I personally don't mind coping the hard disk and repartitioning it to get a larger file server. That takes only a few minutes of my time. Building a Linux server would require many hours to a few days of my commitment. So far I'm very happy with the way the Internet Server works (BTW www.compgeeks has links to the manuals so you can see roughly what the software offers). After setting up the Internet server and downloading some updates (primarily Front Page support) I can say it's almost as easy to set up as my Linksys Router/Switch. The only glitch I've run into so far is that I haven't figured out how to get VPN client on LAN to talk through the firewall to a server on WAN. The support seems to be for the opposite (an external client trying to make a connection to a VPN server on the LAN). Hopefully I can solve this tonight. 05-01-2002 08:33:07

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile the same model as 3com internet server.. http://www.iapplianceweb.com/appReview/IAW_SOHO_SERVER/2 05-01-2002 21:15:28

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email Galenaway, According to the last post the 3Com appliance is using Red Hat 6.1 Linux. Can you verify this ? I would be more inclined to purchase one if I knew it used a standard Linux OS. Thanks..Musicman38 05-02-2002 06:30:46

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email galenaway, do you think you could post an image of this thing somewhere or could you upload it to my ftp? Id like to restore it to another machine and see how it works... email me: jdouglas@empowwwer.com 05-02-2002 07:08:22

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email I'll gladly send you a CDR disk postage paid both ways if you could burn that image for me. If it's on Linux Red Hat 6.1 should be no legal problem either. let me know musicman@comcast.net Thanks Musicman38 05-02-2002 11:30:02

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email If I get the image uploaded to my server you can dload it no prb... 05-02-2002 13:43:57

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) piggy Profile Like Musicman and jamesdouglas, I would be interested to check that image out. ggabe at lycosmail.com 05-03-2002 13:48:40

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile opened the case. and change the root passwrd, so I can login to the box. it has free space around 7.5G (planningto add 2nd hardrive for file server 4 my windows machine, need 2 install samba though) back-uped the disk using nortonGhost through TC/IP p2p (got the original Image around 105 MB with compression). The box is real linux box, all common daemon are running accept telnetd ,will add it. for 200 bucks is fair enough 4 me, I will mess around with the configuration, probably hack the html, daemons and configuration for my needs,when have time. and probably will adopt the system to websurfer as broadband router and server. the box is small comparing with my another Linux box, and the case is strong enough and neat :) Peace 05-04-2002 14:50:58

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Linuxguru Profile | Email What's the chipset on the motherboard? Is the CPU a PPGA Celeron or an FCPGA Coppermine Celeron-II? It is socketed? 05-05-2002 22:15:22

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email will anyone provide me with an image to this machine?? 05-06-2002 07:04:50

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile put the image at http://home.mindspring.com/~tjahjadi/ it will redirect to the image will be there around a week Peace 05-10-2002 12:58:48

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) mooner Profile Great, Thanks, but the D/L stoped about 25% done and now its down all together :( Just FYI 05-10-2002 16:32:48

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile the webserver and link is up now. MY DSL modem was off line, cause of thunderstorm in my home area( not connected to UPS , though). found out after coming home. sorry for the unpredictable cause, :) Peace 05-10-2002 18:20:19

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) wildcard Profile petejengkol Is your ftp site hosted on the 3com server? I understood this to be a turnkey easy to set up internet server but it is not working out that way for me. 05-10-2002 21:36:19

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile not really, The 3 com server just forwarding incoming http to my internal linux-file server (slackware Linux). at the first trial, I did use 3com server to accept Http resquest locally, but I'm hacking the 3com server know, so the http daemon in 3com server is down now Peace 05-11-2002 00:44:08

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email petejengkol, Thanks very much for the 3COM Image image that you shared. What software do I use to to restore that image ? Thanks again, Phil.. 05-11-2002 19:10:36

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile Norton Ghost 2002, same as Norton Ghost 7.0 here is a good tutorial: http://ghost.radified.com/ghost_1.htm just FYI, some guys tried to break in through my webserver by sending malformed or non existed exectuable file....:)) one of the ip adddress: 66.32.210.106 (user-1121kja.dsl.mindspring.com) and............more... Peace 05-11-2002 19:40:14

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email petejengkol Thanks for the info, I'll check in to the norton utility. I am new to Linux, but I hope to learn something from the 3com setup you so kindly provided.. musicman38 05-12-2002 13:17:50

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email petejengkol Oh just one mroe thing, I see you use comcast, so do I. Are you able to host a website directly from your computer ? Or do you use the www.mywebpages.comcast.net site for your pages ? I would love to learn how this can be done, I know I have only 128KB uplink, but downlink is a speedy avg of 800KB.. Thanks.. Musicman38 05-12-2002 13:21:08

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile not comcast, eartlink DSL. just do a simple trick, got 10MB personal space, the index.html will redirect to the my webserver, ftp , telnet. (all linux, scare of windows actually so many patching...:). I use dynamic IP, just write a script (i'm using python, easy 2 learn) for detecting the IP changing and updating the index.html. my webserver, ftp , telnet are reside on different machine (internally), just old amd k6-450 and celeron 500 and sharing spaces through NFS hope it will help U Peace 05-12-2002 20:30:46

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) scottxxxxx Profile Peter, Thanks for puting the image up. I have a question. Do you know what the root PW is? Is there a way to login from the CLI? I get a prompt when the machine boots for an scrambled administrator password. Thanks, Scott 05-13-2002 08:47:04

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) mooner Profile Wow, it worked for you? I get an error on the boot-up, somthing "failed" to start then it shuts down. Linux is NOT a strong point with me. I was looking for a "throw and go" solution and this really looked like the one. Anyone have this problem? And thanks petejengkol for the image! mooner 05-13-2002 10:23:33

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) scottxxxxx Profile Mooner, Yes it booted up fine. It appears that you can login directly from the shell but I do not know the admin name or password. I did see, after rereading the posts, that peter was able to set the root password. One think that would be nice to change is the coded network limitation. It appears that the box wants to be on the private 192 network. When I booted the box it determined, DHCP client?, that it was not on a 192 net and gave an error. 05-13-2002 11:00:51

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) cyberhh Profile I cannot resolve your images site. Please help. THanks in advance. 05-13-2002 16:17:09

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile Hi guys. sorry again, my DSL connection disconnect again, bad weather again.. hmmm. its up now..... what errors are?... if you can boot from the harddrive, is easy to change the root password. when the screen shows "lilo boot:" , just type "linux s" , it goes to single user as a root. when "# prompt" shows, type "passwd" to change root password. and reboot it , just press ctl-alt-del. you are done, now you can add daemon, or linux source code, what ever u want, or hack the html file and scripts file, which comes from 3com IS. after it boots up, press alt-F2 for opening 2nd virtual screen, and login as a root and your new password. btw, it will try to connect DHCP server, better to have DHCP in your network. yes, don't scare about scramble admin passwrd. just ignore it. till know don't know what's is the meaning, if have time, will dig in the 3comIS scripts..and progs.., and 1st virtual screen is just a dump messg from what's going on in 3comIS, kind of a report. so far that I know.... Peace 05-13-2002 16:39:46

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) cyberhh Profile Man I have terrible timing. I again cannot acccess your page. If you could check it again -- I too will host the image once I get it. THanks 05-15-2002 14:02:17

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile try again cyberhh. if you can not resolve my page, and try again later, 05-15-2002 14:54:57

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jsaint Profile I need one! tiger has run out... anyone have one to sell or located other sellers??? I'm after the 3com internet server reply here or e-mail me. "I just can't leave well enuf alone." e-mail at satelliteztakethisout@hotmail.com 05-21-2002 10:11:25

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) wildcard Profile http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3C19504 05-21-2002 13:19:01

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email for those who are interested and missed the post at Anandtech...there are a couple of linux builds out there that do the same thing as the interconnect and then some (webamil, pptp etc). Here are the links: http://www.e-smith.org/ http://www.clarkconnect.org 05-22-2002 13:06:09

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) cyberhh Profile I finally got it to work and I LOVE IT. As an out of box solution it is fantastic. Don't forget to update the machine - there is a security update and frontpage extensions support. Go to the upgrade tab on the system console and enter: /2.3.20010423 for DNS and FTP security update and /2.3.20010926 for the frontpage extensions. 05-22-2002 14:18:36

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email anyone play with this? http://www.star-support.com/downloads/mitel/contrib/personioffice/ After looking at all of these Id be inclined to buy the 3com for $199 then slap the e-smith iso image on it, think I like that interface better and from reading the .org site it seems to be customizable to the extent you can add packages etc. 05-23-2002 06:36:05

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email well been messing with the e-smith for a while now and it rocks...lots of open source addons for it make it highly customizable. Groupware, ecommerce, vpn all available addons for it. Even if you bought the 3com, Id be inclined to back it up and slap the e-smith image onto it and read up, if for no other reason than e-smith is based on a later RH version than the 3com. James http://www.windowsalternative.com 05-29-2002 06:23:36

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jsaint Profile Has anyone been able to get mail from the 3com server with netscape or outlook from the WAN side or remotely?? I have setup a firewall exception pop & smtp @ 127.0.0.1 with no port but can't resolve mail server, Remote admin works fine and mail is working fine otherwise... Any ideas? "I just can't leave well enuf alone." e-mail at satelliteztakethisout@hotmail.com 05-31-2002 16:27:46

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile I've encountered a little problem with my 3com server - perhaps someone can help: I reconfigured the LAN interface for a static IP which I thought was the 192.168.10.1 default address. Now I can no longer access the unit on the LAN side. Is there any way to reset the entire unit to the default values or otherwise access it? Hopefully this is not a stupid newbie question. 06-12-2002 18:55:24

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile hookup monitor to 3comis (remove the vga port cover). it will show the its ip address on the monitor. 06-12-2002 21:51:07

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile Thanks, Pete The address shows the default 192.168.10.1 address. Unfortunatly, any attempts to reach this or 192.168.10.1:8000/useradmin, etc. come up dry. I suppose I can always burn the disk image you provided previously to a new disk and start over...... While I was at the CLI, I went ahead and changed the password so I can now log on at the root level......Is there something that can be done here?..... I can also be reached at <geewagons@att.net> Thanks 06-13-2002 08:31:24

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile can you ping the machine ? if yes , try to opening webpage from the machine(3comis, not admin webpage). can you open the webpage? if yes, you can the admin webpage if no, the webserver in the machine is down (need to access through root console) or did you specified a certain IP address can access admin webpage? if you can access root console, (through tty2.... , I guess); check the /var/log directory, and check the log files for errors.. and try to ping from the machine to other machine (your local lan).. you can do everything under root account if U want, I can host the image back , so U can download it.. Peace 06-13-2002 13:18:09

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) wildcard Profile 3com tech support is supporting this machine purchased from compgeeks. There are also issues that you can't reach the webpage interface of the ISmachine from a 6.0 version of IE, but if you go back to a 5.x version of IE you can. 06-13-2002 15:25:44

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile Probably the issue. I can access the webpage using IE6 (winXP) with no problem. Peace 06-13-2002 23:21:35

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile Hi Making some progress here........managed to successfully move Petes's Ghost image to a new 80gig HD and install in the 3comis. It boots fine, but....I can access the public file areas but the ADMIN section is looking for a name and a password. admin/admin doesn't work. Since image is from a previously set up machine it appears that the ADMIN name and password have been changed to something other than the admin/admin default. Has anyone else used the Ghost image and had the a same problem? Does anyone know the name and password for this image? George 06-16-2002 19:09:06

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile Please ignore my previous post.........'turns out that <is:8000> gets in to the setup area geo. 06-16-2002 22:01:45

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) By-Tor Profile Is the image still available? I booted my system for the first time and it didn't boot. I attached a monitor and it's hanging because of a damaged file system. I have an 80Gig drive I want to move it to, so I'd like to just dump the image on a new drive and go. Thanks! 06-16-2002 22:54:06

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Groch Profile | Email Christopher Rath has posted several fine pages describing of his experiences hacking this device here: http://www.rath.ca/Misc/3Com-3C19504/index.shtml He ended up using the Clarkconnect.org software and it looks like it went fine. I ordered one of these over the weekend, geeks is showing only 1 left so now is the time if you want one. 06-17-2002 07:14:48

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile My HD upgrade experience seems to be going well so far: I started with a new Segate 80gig drive and formatted the whole thing as one NTFS partition. I then used Norton Ghost to drop the image previously provided on this thread on to the drive. Although the original image was only for the original 10 gig, Ghost partitioned and linux formatted the entire 80 gigs, which included one large 63gig partition that the server seems to use for file storage. I have not attempted to make any of the other partitions smaller to get more file storage room because I'm unsure of the consequences.....Can anyone offer advice here???......... When I first put the big drive in the 3comis, the BIOS did not detect it with the IDE parameters set to AUTO. Manually entering the cylinders, heads, etc. info caused it to boot fine. It would be nice if the 3comis ADMIN interface gave some info as to how much file storage is actually available. I've put about 7gigs on it so far and ASW. Exaimining the disk (outside the 3comis)with Partition Magic shows the 7gigs nicely filling the 63gig space. I have a 120 gig on order that should be here in a few days for my final configuration of the box. George 06-17-2002 12:57:32

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile If somebody want to grab the 3comIS image.. >> http://66.32.116.10/ the temporary site......................... Pete 06-18-2002 00:43:23

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile Setup-ed no-ip dynamic IP, go to ruby.zapto.org for 3comis image 06-19-2002 15:56:25

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Groch Profile | Email I notice that FIC has just posted a new bios UC615 for the Sahara 1000 motherboard on which the 3C19504 is based. Here: ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/bios/systems/sahara1000/ The 3C19504 lacks a floppy connector so I imaging any flashing would have to be done by CD. There is no documentation as to what the bios does, but I would hope it would enable recognition of larger hard drives. I am not certain the generic Sahara 1000 bios is suitable for this piece, so try it at your own risk. 06-23-2002 07:19:31

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) By-Tor Profile OK, So I have the IS ready to upgrade, but how do I get it to recognize the larger (80 gig) drive I just bought? I guess I need to pop off the covers on the keyboard and mouse ports first, right? Then can I flash the bios to the new UC615 code, or do I need an overlay driver? Thanks. 06-25-2002 17:29:14

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Groch Profile | Email I hooked up a keyboard/mouse/monitor; then adjusted the bios to boot first from CDrom. Hooked up a CDrom drive (you have to substitute a dual connector ide cable. Booted to dos using a bootable CDR (the win98SE cd actually) and then loaded the bios from a CDR using the loader included in the 615 zip file. It worked fine. I am not sure what good it did however, as it still did not recognize my 100gig drive. When I loaded the cylinders etc specs manually things the drive worked fine, but I do not know if it recognized the whole 100 gig. The actual bios date is 11/2000 so it is about a year newer than stock. 06-26-2002 20:04:21

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile I installed 40 GB, the BIOS didn't recognize the hardrive. I set the number of sectors limitation jumper on the hardrive , and the BIOS recognized it, install linux with clarkconnect (disable daemons which has no source code/clarkconnect propietary such as: suva,monitoring sw...., and use no-ip for dynamic-ip hostname). So far there is no problem with the bios limitation.. I guess, don't need to update the bios though, if gonna use under linux. peace Pete 06-27-2002 08:42:02

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile Go figure.... I just loaded the clean 3comis GHOST image on a new WD 120gig HD. Slapped it in the 3comis and it auto booted without any manual BIOS entries. The GHOST image initially partitioned the HD into four Linux Ext2 partitions of approx. 463, 11774, 5883, and 94702 MB, plus a Linux Swap partition of 1569 MB. I repartitioned it to 157, 1247, 1498, 110000, and 1568 respectivly. All seems well so far, and it appears that I now have a nice 110 GB MP3 file server.. Also.........."HDOUTLET" is selling lots of 3comis with Linux OS only on eBay with no reserve...........they seem to go for about $135-$150.........this is where I got mine 06-29-2002 08:42:58

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) epodfreak Profile I'm a Linux newbie and need a little handholding getting this little guy setup. I've d/l'ed the 3COMIS image for Ghost (I have Ghost 7.5 Corp) and replaced the existing 10G drive with a 30G which the bios sees just fine. How do I configure and run Ghost to put the image on the new drive? I tried to do it the 'normal' way I use ghost, but all it would do is make one partition and when I used Ghost Explorer to view the contents of the Ghost image I saw like 5 different partitions! I'm sure that I'm close, but I have no idea how to proceed. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!! -Epodfreak 07-23-2002 21:40:12

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Groch Profile | Email I had no problem with it using the Ghost from Norton 2002. I had the hard drive as slave in another computer, booted from the floppy drive using the ghost start up disk, and it gave me the option of reinstalling all of the partitions. I did not use the downloaded image however, I used one that I had made myself so this one could be different. That said, I am no longer using the original 3com image which has not been updated in almost a year, and would suggest you consider the "Clarkconnect" option described above instead. It is only a little more difficult to set up (you need to temporarily attach a CDrom drive and a monitor). Once set up, and the web interface turned on, it is just as easy to use, and much more flexible and complete. In addition it is based on a much newer linux kernel, and is still being updated and improved, and you can't beat the price, free. Works on the 3com box just great, and there are a ton of additional plug ins made for it for you to play around with if you like. 07-24-2002 03:53:52

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) bystander Profile Sorry to butt in so late into discussion with another box. But from the first look for little more money you can get much nicer package. Check it out: http://www.notebooktrade.com/products/Servers/Toshiba/Magnia_SG10.html 07-26-2002 04:22:52

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) DrDSL Profile re. Toshiba box Interesting box. Appears aimed at high end home market with lots of talk about AudioTron connectivity, etc. Apparently room for a 2nd HD and comes equipped with an integral 7 port ethernet switch which is nice April 2002 PC mag review showed list price of $1,300 and generally trashed the box in their review vs. other small business servers.......but..... for $275.00......and home-hacker use maybe it's a good deal. Does anybody know if Toshiba is dumping the whole product line or just this particular config? Does anybody have one of these, or am I going to have to be the first brave soul? geo. 07-27-2002 10:37:48

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Groch Profile | Email Re:Toshiba It appears the SG10 series is being discontinued, but the SG20 (using a Celeron 566MHz rather than an AMD K6/2 350) is not. Certainly a very nice find. I like the built in 7 port switch, and with the LCD read out and silver casing it certainly looks cooler than the 3Com (an important factor!). It comes out of the box with some useful home lan functionality, though the 3com works great for that too. For me the downsides would be the slower processor and the use of 4200 rpm laptop drives which could limit upgradeablility. In addition, the included software seems to be quite restrictive in what it lets you do or not do. It appearantly renames your lan, and must be the DCHP server. Because it lacks VGA/ps2 ports it may be harder to hack if you wanted to replace the software which is not that hard on the 3Com. I think the 3com due to its flexibility was a better choice for me, as well as the lower cost (about $100 less on Ebay). I would be very interested in hearing from someone who has one of these. Very tempting. 07-28-2002 07:54:48

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jamesdouglas Profile | Email hey i was reading the pdf manual on the sg10 from tosh site and it seems some things are weird with this unit. In the email setup they only reference pooling mail from an isp or internal routing. can this not be a stand alone internet mail server? Also, no public web page for a company only an INTRANET. Im really tempted to ditch my router and use one of these instead but Im afraid these little gotchas are only the tip of the iceberg on this one...does ANYONE out there own or have played with one of these things? 07-30-2002 05:43:27

Toshiba Magnia SG10 Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Musicman38 Profile | Email These unit are now only $199.00 . The unit has a great looking case will look good in my A/V rack, and runs Redhat Linux, 20 GBHD, and 64MBRAM, 9 LAN Ports, AMD k6-350 CPU. Sets up through its webpage. The unit holds two 2.5 inch hard drives, not sure if it would address a larger Hard Drive larger than 20. The shipping is expensive at $36.00 . I'm going to hold out a day or two as I search the internet and read all the reviews. But my first impression is this is a great deal, and I am fighting the temptation to just order it (Someone please tell me its a bad deal so I won't.. Ha Ha) . My only concern is the fact it says nothing about public webpage access only intranet (Bummer). But it would host my MP3 files great from what I read, and works with my Audiotron. Anyone have one of these yet ? Heres one of many reviews I saw. http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,48349,00.asp Ahhh so many toys, so little time to play with them.. -Musicman 08-26-2002 09:59:18

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile toshiba AG-10 is a nice internet Appliance, good for somebody has'nt purchased 3com IS (I have one). I'm using 3com IS, upgraded 40GB harddisk( the setup BIOS misknown the total cylinder, sector.... etc, but Linux will handle everything). I installed clarkconnect with some of my modification scripts and disabling all the propietary code from clarkconnect :). It run greats (using DSL-earthlink, sharing connection with2 of my friends). running all days and all weeks, almost 3 months without rebooting and glitches). I do sharing mpg files for local use, and downloads files (my friends too). it's really stable.. the nextstep is modify and install streaming video and audio (check www.videolan.org),if possible? don't know about the juice of celeron 500MHz is barely enough or not. just a cent of my sharing... Pete 08-26-2002 12:03:33

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) piperpacer Profile These are still available here: Ebay Store http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=6292478?ssPageName=hdoutlet Ebay Auction item http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050822653 I wonder how these stack up to the Toshiba servers? 09-09-2002 11:44:26

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) Epodfreakathome Profile | Email I need some help! The links to the bios for the 3comis are dead. Does anybody have the latest BIOS for this machine (based on the FIC Sahara-1000 m/b) that they could email to me? If so, please send to: mike@paragongroupnw.com Many Thanks! -Epodfreakathome 05-05-2003 18:52:34

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) bbsux Profile I have one of these -- The 3com model... anyone want it? E-mail me at bbsux at binary.net with an offer, its new... 05-07-2003 08:36:54

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) mooner Profile I know its been awhile, but does anyone still have this image around? Can someone make it available for Download? Thanks in advance! )( 11-06-2003 11:38:32

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) jsaint Profile yup lookin for that image file myself "again" satellitezTakethisouT@hotmail.com Anyone find more uses for this thing? i have 2 would like to do something with em.. 12-19-2003 23:51:44

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) nuptsey Profile Hello, I was wondering if one of you still has a disk image of the 3com internet server? Mine unfortunately freezes before the boot completes and I'd like to reinstall it. Mail me at my nickname at gmail.com Thanks a lot in advance, nuptsey 09-07-2005 13:05:37

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) petejengkol Profile I still have the image. but the orginal image is really old kernel comparing with 2.6.X I you need the image, I will host or send to you pete. 09-21-2005 20:13:58

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) munrobasher Profile I have recently aquired a 3com internetserver and having problems. Was expecting to hear two beeps at end of boot up to indicate the server had come up but this did not happen. Powered down and attached a monitor and keyboard to see what was happening then repowered up. The last few line at boot up are as follows: /dev/hda7: contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda7: Unattached inode 2752282 /dev/hda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e. , without -a or-p otions) *** An error occurred during file systemcheck *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot *** when you leave the shell Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D for normal startup): At this point the server hangs. Tried using a a redhat rescue disk to access the root but failed. I do not seem to be having much luck. Any chance of downloading a clean image of the 3com system? Many thanks. 01-29-2006 17:56:23

RE:Internet Server Appliance (modified 0 times) mapondera Profile I read your problem and I have just the same happen to me. How did you solve it? Also looking for an image pm 11-23-2006 12:09:45

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