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New MessageQBE on ebay (modified 0 times) chaezewhiz
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Wow...I forgot about this thing. Too pricey for my junkyard of toys.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2073809460&category=31540

-chaeze


Miracle in a Can
11-20-2002 23:45:27

New MessageRE:QBE on ebay (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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wow! that was the baddest raddest desgin with built in cd drive and firewire!!!! oh man i'd wish i had one of those baby but ebay bid is at 411.00!!!! out of my pocket reach
11-21-2002 19:02:30

New MessageRE:QBE on ebay (modified 0 times) smurfman
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I am an expert on the QBE's. I owned one or more for several years and did upgrades for other people via Ebay.

They look damn dead sexy and I LOVED taking mine into a fancy restaurant and waiting for people to start to approach me. Especially before any Joe Schmoe could walk into CompUSA and look at or buy a Tablet PC, the QBE was really ahead of its time. This was back in 2000/2001.

The QBE has a ton of shortcomings. When I used it, I tolerated all of its shortcomings, didn't use it for anything productive (other than doing my Transcender MCSE flashcards in fancy restaurants, or watching DVD's with my upgraded-to-DVD-drive), but when I needed ABSOLUTE SEXY, and ABSOLUTE PHAT then I would whip out the QBE. I literally used mine about once every 4 months for 2 years and that was it. With Tablet PC's coming out this fall (i.e. now) I sold mine back in Spring 2002 for $1250 (fully upgraded).

The main shortcomings of the QBE are:

1) weight. I thought all the pansy-ass reviewers that would whine about the weight were a bunch of pussies. Well....actually these are heavy as hell to carry around and to use a tablet. But using it on the portrait kick-stand on a table they were great.

2) battery. OMG, the battery on these things was HUGE, about the size of a VHS tape, and they SUCKED! 1 hour battery life.

3) quirky as hell. designed for windows 98 only. jerry rigging win2k to work on these was fun (not!) and forget about linux. and forget about trying to use the extra's like the smartcard reader, built-in camera, etc., in win2k. Hell, the QBE was so quirky if you looked at it funny win98 device manager would impload and the mini-pci network card, modem, smartcard, video camera, and touchscreen would all colide in a 60-car pileup and every resource would be conflicting. what a pain in the ass. WinXP was available with a PAY BIOS upgrade after the QBE was already dead from the market for about $100.

4) support was **atrocious**.

5) corded stylus.

I think they made about 4,000.....or was it 40,000 of these? It was a commercial flop. Aqcess is dead, and their partner Gr@eatCities still sells a few on Ebay now and then. I would love to know the whole insider story of the company, but suffice it to say this quickly died, and for a while Aqcess was trying to put out the successor to this tablet, but it went nowhere and was vaporware.

Aqcess Technologies paid a company (http://www.innolabs.com.tw) to make these. We are talking 1999-era.

This company has been trying to produce their Evita line of touchscreen PC's, but from what I can tell these have gone nowhere and their website hasn't been udpated in ages.

On the technical side:

* hd is upgradeable using up to 17mm laptop HD's! I threw a 30 gig in mine.

* memory is two PC100 SODIMM slots. I had 512mb. Supposedly the BIOS can handle up to 768mb.

* cpu is NOT upgradeable. It unfortunately used the Micro PGA-1 (uPGA-1) PII-400 which was socketed, but is not compatable with the uPGA-2 standard, and the PII-400 was actually the pretty much the fastest uPGA-1 CPU made. Ah well.

With real Tablet PC's costing in the $2000+ range the QBE is good for someone who wants the Tablet PC chic, without the price or the full usefulness (given its CPU/battery/weight/quirky shortcomings I mentioned above).

In my opinion $400 is the "gotta buy it" price for this item for those who can afford it.

The QBE was the darling of the trade shows and pen magazines for a few months in 1999, but thats it. And despite it being quite cutting edge I rarely even hear its name mentioned when the history of tablet computers is discussed.

I loved owning a QBE along with the attention and head turning it generated.

Regardless of its own shortcomings, and the shortcomings of the company that put it out....even if the QBE had no issues, and the company was well run, with the advent of the Tablet PC push by Microsoft along with its collaboration w/ large favored OEM's a small-time company producted Tablet PC would have been dead anyway.

11-21-2002 23:14:23

New MessageRE:QBE on ebay (modified 0 times) fbruno
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Smurfman,
Do you still have the XP bios. I just traded a progear for a QBE. I installed XP to see what the tablet PC is all about. It works fine w/ a few minor glitches. PCMCIA not working is really the big one. I am looking to put a Cisco mini-PCI wireless card in it. Anyways, please email me (fbruno(_at_)attbi.com) or post here if you can help me out w/ bios or drivers.
Thanks,
Frank
11-22-2002 20:35:12

New MessageRE:QBE on ebay (modified 0 times) smurfman
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It looks like these guys are selling QBE's, and doing Windows XP upgrades! but for $275? hah.
http://www.best4udeals.com/upgrade.htm

And they sell it as a "Desktop" i.e. no battery for $460, or as a tablet PC for $1250 with a battery!

YES THE $790 BATTERY!!!!!!!!!!! (Well, and 9 gb hd vs a 6 gb hd, and 128mb vs 64mb)

What does this tell you? It tells you they probably have scant batteries for a large amount of units (why? because the maker originally had to give angry customers new batteries).

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I actually wasn't clear. I never had the XP Bios upgrade for this. You had to send your QBE in + $100 to get them to upgrade the BIOS. I never did that, as I was in the processing of moving on from the QBE.

I did run Windows 2000 Pro and with a lot of worked it could be made to work great, with enough blood and sweat. I know the built-in USB digital camera didn't work, nor did the smartcard in Win2k. You had to disable some really super-mega-uber-ultra obscure option in one of the device manager items to get the PnP for everything else to work right, but for the life of me I don't know what it was. There was a QBE newsgroup where people shared tips on getting Win2k to work, but I don't have any of that info anymore.

However as you were asking about Windows XP I can tell you that minus the USB digital camera and the smartcard reader Windows XP DOES work! Here is the proof:

www.shadowbane.org/qbe.jpg

That is a pic I used in my auction when I sold my QBE with Windows 98 and Windows XP dual boot. Everything other than the digital camera and smartcard reader were working fine.

I would suggest that you start disabling anything and everything you don't need in the BIOS. With the QBE if things get 1 degree skewed every device starts clobbering every other device.

If you still have problems I would highly recommend physically removing the internal mini-PCI modem/network card. The thing is a hoser anyway. I never myself had to resort to this, but I bet this would clear up a lot of resource conflicts. That part of the device was always the first to cause problems when things went awry anyway.

If I can snag one for <$400 off Ebay I might get one...for old times sakes. :) And maybe through Windows XP Tablet PC edition on there.

11-24-2002 00:05:16

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