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Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile This sellor is dumping Mitsubishi Amity VP starts from $99 on eBay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=budfox&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 Mitsubishi Amity VP Spec is closed to Panasonic CF-01: AMD 586-133mhz processor 16MB (expandable to 48MB) RAM 1.4 GB 2.5 inch HDD WACOM digitizer and stylus requires no wire or battery 7.5" LCD Monitor, RS232C, Serial Parallel Requires optional Extended Connector cable IrDA 1.1 to 4 Mbps 2 PCMCIA 2.1 Type II Slots or 1 Type III internal microphone and speaker 9.8" x 6.7" x 1.4" 2.2lbs 12-27-2002 09:58:52

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) adam714 Profile i expected a slew of posts about this thing. what's the deal. BTW - i got one for 105. If it's cool, i'll probably get rid of my T200 12-30-2002 14:16:06

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile Before I posted this, you can win the bet for $99 without competition. Now it is not sure thing anymore, I guess I draw some attentions here :) 12-30-2002 16:17:50

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Yeah I popped in right before an auction closed and could have been an a$$ but I nicely got in line behind the guys that had already bid and some %&*#$^! scumbag piece of *%&# decided my auction looked good for sniping as compared to the other 4 closing at the same time. Thanks for the news though. It's to bad some can't play nice and just have to be dild*s 12-30-2002 20:23:31

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email Does anyone know what type of ram this thing takes? Specs say 72 pin. Is it regular 72 in ram chips? Most of the info I can find is in Japanese and babelfish is not doing a very good job of translating. 12-31-2002 13:04:35

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile I WAS ABLE TO FIND ZIPPED DRIVERS BUT IT'S PASSWORD PROTECTED. USELESS UNLESS SOMEONE KNOW A WAY AROUND. ALSO FOUND SOME PICs: http://palestrina.infoseek.livedoor.com/amityvp.html also in japanese but a pic of the inside 12-31-2002 14:44:58

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) bobm Profile Wow, Randomluck, glad that wasn't me you got pissed at.. the seller is now doing a 'buy it now' for 129 w/ free shipping, I got mine for 128 with shipping. I'm hoping that it will work with my wireless card. Any other info would be helpful.. 12-31-2002 15:00:13

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Hahahaha Sorry Bob, I was venting a bit. I tried to do the right thing and as usual I got peed on for my efforts! I have my price set for what I'm willing to pay for one of these w/shipping but past experience at eBay has proven that throwing that number out on an auction that I'm not sitting on watching realtime is a waste of my time. They always run the price way up beyond reasonable. If I'm there watching (and some clueless soul hasn't blown the price out of the ballpark) there isn't a sniper out there that won't be disappointed at the end. :) 12-31-2002 20:35:59

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email --adam714 Where did you find the zipped drivers? Has anyone received there's yet? Do we know if these come with drivers on deic or just the Pen drivers? --preacher 01-01-2003 17:11:24

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Kingston makes a 32 meg strip of ram specifically for the Amity. I haven't found any drivers yet. Mitsu's site was having problems earlier today when I was there poking around. 01-01-2003 17:16:17

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email Try this: http://www.interq.or.jp/red/abechan/ The top link is for a "manual", but looks like it includes at least some of the drivers and pen services as well as a guide. 01-01-2003 20:14:49

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Looks to me like it's a complete file for a website concerning a how-to disassembly and upgrading. There's a bios flash and a multiple boot utility. Anyone know what Lhasa is? I bit the bullet and went the buy me now route, now I'm just waiting on delivery. I want to mount and program this for navigation in my car. I've read about needing some special cable to allow a serial connection. I can forsee it as a small problem LOL 01-02-2003 08:11:26

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email Here is a link (through babelfish) of a Mitsubishi page about upgrading the VP from Win95 to Win98. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.mdit.co.jp%2Fservice%2Fapricot%2Fwin98%2Fc1m8204.htm&lp=ja_en&tt=url Note #1 seems to indicate that it is possible to make a back-up of the drivers to a disk before you would update to Windows 98. Can anyone remember if this is a function built-in to Win95? It has been too long since I have used it for me to remember. 01-02-2003 12:00:49

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email --Randomluck It appears that the lhasa017 is a decompression utility for .zip and .lha? files. http://www.kyoto-su.ac.jp/circle/mics/Docs/setup/win/lhasa/ I found a set of drivers that are password protected by PGP (sda.exe) This method of encryption is not as high as PGP, but is a simple user/pass scheme. I have contacted the owners of the site hoping they will send me the password. It appears that they are members of some type of Japanese computer club. 01-02-2003 13:10:11

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/factor666/realm.html why is everything for this thing in japanese??? 01-02-2003 14:47:53

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/factor666/realm.html I've noticed the same thing LOL Seems they got into this thing awhile ago and did some work inside it. Now if we could just get a decent translation(s) we'd be way ahead. 01-02-2003 16:00:32

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile I just got the Amity this morning (in fact, it arrived yestersday on my door steps, damn FedEx didn't even ring the bell and it rains/shows all day in NJ). It is in the original package/box (wet!), fortunately nothing wet inside. I guess the box was also made in Japan. My Amity is in perfect condition, it looks like brand-new without any scratch. It is bigger than panasonic Cf-01 but has build-in sound/MIC and numeric keys. The stylus is short and light in the normal pen-size. I booted it to Win95, there is an inventory application(Pen Rite) running automatically and there is a small pen utility in the taskbar. I didn't play it for long (have a job, got to work :(), but overall I like it. I plan to put my extra 16MB ram from CF-01 in tonight to see it fit or not. This is very well-built tablet and I highly recommend it to everyone for $129. 01-03-2003 09:37:38

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Quick question. Did it come with extra nibs for the stylus? 01-03-2003 09:47:13

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i can't wait to get mine. i also live in NJ 01-03-2003 11:40:18

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile Randomluck, No. It came with the AC adapter, two batteries and stylus inside the Amity and the 2 different user manuals and one floppy disk(I guess, didn't open it yet). 01-03-2003 12:58:53

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) Randomluck Profile | Email I wondered where he was getting nibs to sell LOL They are supposed to come with the unit according to Mitsu. I live in Fl and I'm waiting patiently. AZ is a bit closer to me ;) 01-03-2003 13:07:23

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i'm not patient at all. i can't wait to get mine. hopes it's in as good of condition as junkleo's. i estimate i'll get mine some time next week. 01-03-2003 15:00:12

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email Are the extra nibs really necessary? How much writing would it take to wear one out? And speaking of that, I wonder if we need to try to find some type of removable film like I use on my PalmVx to protect the screen? I should receive mine either today or Monday. Here's hoping!!!!! 01-03-2003 15:47:27

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile I installed 16 MB ram from CF-01 and it works, so you can get 32 MB of the same type RAM to upgrade to 48MB. I have spent $50 for CF-01 to upgrade to 40MB (8+32, default is 8+16 = 24), now I can use the extra 16MB so it is enough for me. 01-03-2003 20:32:44

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Paypal dinged my account yesterday for the money so mine should be on the way. I hope it ships Fed Ex, I sure am tired of people forcing me to let brown do things to me. I'm proud to hear that unspecific memory works. I was scared at finding the reference to Kingston and about died at the $168.00 price for 32 megs of VP RAM. I've been sitting on this URL hoping for a positive report on an alternative memory like this.... http://store.yahoo.com/valueram/amitycn1.html I'm fixing to order some right now to check it out. Y'all might want to wait a bit to see how it goes...or not LOL 01-03-2003 21:21:46

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile Amity CN1 uses 133MHz Pentium CPU, I don't know it uses same kind of memory for VP or not. My Fujitsu F-1200 (120MHz Pentium) uses different memory from CF-01, so it could be also different between CN and VP. I bought 32MB ram for CF-01 is GENERIC -72 PIN 3V FPM SO DIMM from http://www.coastmemory.com I think LGFP32U/032/G3V60 is the model#. 01-03-2003 22:32:10

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email There was a compatibility check when I was checking out. They asked for and received the correct info to be sure they were selling me the right stuff. We shall see how it goes LOL 01-03-2003 22:43:06

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email --randomluck Congrats on the auction! I have been following it and planned on bidding this morning, but when I saw your name and considering you luck on the other auction... --preacher 01-04-2003 11:20:27

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Thanks, You could have bid though. This one was unique, not one of a pile of them like the other guy has. I was complaining on the impatience of some people driving prices up for no real reason. This one I won I got for a steal IMHO. Modem, Nic card, case, 32 meg upgrade and the 10gig drive. All for 38.50 more than the buy it now price at the other auction. :D Not shabby at all. Thing I'm puzzled about is this seller just bought one back in mid december from our guy and paid 149.00 plus shipping. I'm wondering why he's selling it now with all the goodies for not alot more money? The reserve was only 140.00 on it. His feedback is good and it says it works so..... 01-05-2003 07:47:35

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Spanqboy Profile Hi All, And now for the burning question...How well do these tablets perform?? (My Intel 486 100Mhz Fujitsu Point 510 is not cutting it anymore and I'm looking for a cheap upgrade) In particular, how well do they work for browsing the web, playing MP3 music, playing shockwave games, etc... TIA Spanqboy sends... 01-05-2003 16:17:30

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile To some people, those old generation tablet PCs are too slow to do something. Even my SonicBlue ProGear which came out last year also is slow like hell (Crusoe Transmeta SUX). So why we bought those tablets? Because they are CHEAP!!! I paid $350 for CF-01, $110 for F-1200, $600 for ProGear and $100 for Amity. Combining all money I spent I can't buy the new generation "MS Tablet PC". Even my tablets are slow but they are powerful enough to run Termial Services client, Citrix ICA client or XP remote desktop. 640x480 is small but you will be used to it after a while. My ProGear is nice as Web Surf Tablet. It is 3.5lb, 10" TFT LCD and rotatable 1024x768 resolution, but I still bring my 2.2 lb CF-01 with me every morning when I am doing "personal business." 01-05-2003 18:25:24

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Me myself I get a thrill taking something that once cost thousands of dollars a few short years ago and finding a good use for it after I got it for dirt cheap. I'm not ashamed to be a generation or 3 behind the power users. I prefer it actually. They spend the huge bucks to beta test stuff for me so I can use it cheaply when they are done :D 01-05-2003 19:07:26

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email I'm planning on using mine as an e-book reader and a wireless websurfer via VNC or remote desktop. I have tried to use my Palm as a ebook reader, but its small screen and dim lighting make it unusable. The Amity will be perfect. 01-05-2003 19:35:11

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Is it a TFT LCD? I shouldn't be looking. I too have a CF-01, Stylus LT (faster than Progear) and Progear. Got rid of the Epod (served me well) & P-510 (never really used it) 01-05-2003 22:54:04

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile PeteC, No, it is not TFT LCD on Amity. It is called Diamond Fine Passive LCD, according to Mitsubishi, it is quite readable under direct sunlight which is useful as GPS. Too bad it is not easy to find the Extended Connector cable or the serial adapter cable. I found the pin layout pdf file from a Japanese web site, so at least someone can try to make one for himself. 01-05-2003 23:38:47

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile got mine yesterday. did the upgrade to 98 and IE 6. installed a usr wireless nicnad it's working good but not great. I definately need to boost the ram. Also AIM doesn't work. I keep getting an invalid page fault. i'f like to wipe it clean and do 98 from scratch. maybe this weekend. Physically the unit is perfect except for the screen. it's got these weird wear marks. just like my t200. The book says that it will boot to a pcmcia floppy if it's in the bottom slot. I tried putting sys on a compact flash and booting to that but no dice. i guess the only way is to remove the HD, lod the cabs and make it bootable. unless someone has another idea. Does anyone have a definite answer about what memory is compatible? definately need to boost the ram. 01-07-2003 10:15:49

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile I think Amity uses 72 PIN 3.3V FPM SODIMM. I will suggest you stick with Win95 or 98Lite. I didn't upgrade my cf-01 and Amity to win98 because I only use them as terminal service client which win95 is working fine. Win98 definitely uses more memory than win95 and I don't need those extra win98 features. 01-07-2003 11:44:57

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile I've gotten mine. So far, it's a great little machine (all things considered). I've gotten it to play mp3s (using MPXPLAY) with no skips (up to 190 kbps -- haven't tested others). I was hoping to have this double as a portable mp3 player but either the earphone jack on mine is totally hosed (large amounts of static) or the volume somewhere is set WAY too high. Doubles nicely as a digital picture frame, too. BTW, Opera 6.0x browser works great on this. Set the window scaling to 80% and most web pages fit perfect. Regarding the use of this for GPS -- a way around the "no serial adaptor": buy a PCMCIA serial card. You can find them for around $20 and should cause far less headaches than trying to make your own cable. -jhon 01-07-2003 12:57:26

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email I received my Amity just a few minutes ago (A FEDEX no knock, drop and flee)and I have to say at first play I'm really impressed by this little thing. The display is nice and the pen services work great! It's a bit weird getting used to the pen though but I got it. Now I'm slogging through the manuals and awaiting my wireless card to arrive for it today or tomorrow along with the memory later this week. The memory folk did ship it out monday so I'm assuming/guessing/praying there's no compatibility issues. I have everything crossed LOL 01-08-2003 08:15:01

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile ok, i loaded 98 from scratch. everything plug n played fine. the problem is the pen doesn't work. i loaded penservices for 95 because i don't see anything specifically for 98. that seems to be fine but i guess i need the actual driver for the digitizer. i remember having this problem with the t200. you had to overwite the driver but with this unit, i don't know which file to use, where to get it and how to load it. can anyone help with this? 01-08-2003 21:19:26

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile from http://www.mitsubishi-mobile.com/support/techsupport_downloads.htm#AMiTY%20VP Maybe upgrading win95 to win98 is better than clean install. AMITY VP Windows98 / Windows 98 SE restriction 1. Infrared Communication Windows98 can not communicate with Windows95 system because protocol is different. VP does not support FIR . 2. Creating Drivers disks Drivers Disks can not be created under Windows98 therefore you should create them under Windws95 before updating to Windows98. 3. Upgrade to Windows98 (1) When you upgrade Windows95 to Windows98, attach more than one batteries as Windows98 detect batteries as devices. (2) When you upgrade Windows95 to Windows98, skip creating startup disk. 4. Power Management "System Standby After" and "System Suspend After" at hardware settings and "System Standby" at Windows are the same as going to suspend. If you set the different time, the shortest time is used. 5. WAVE file Recording with Microphone does not work. 6. Shut down You need to set the followings and you can shut down properly. (1) Tap [Start]-[Run]. (2) Input "MSCONIG" and tap [OK] button. (3) Tap [General]-[Advanced]. (4) Make [Disable fast shutdown] checked. (5) Tap [OK] button twice. (6) Restart your computer. 01-08-2003 22:30:18

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile Thanks, i've seen that info already but it doesn't say anything about loading pen drivers. 01-09-2003 07:21:17

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email adam714 Did you create a drivers disk set before loading Win98? According to the manual, there should be three disks created. One for Win95 specific stuff, one for something else (I don't have it in frontof me right now) and one for the Amity VP specific drivers. Could be that this third disk is the one that would contain the Wacom driver for the screen. --preacher 01-09-2003 07:44:39

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i looked at that but i thought it was just windows drivers so i didn't bother. perhaps someone could make a set and email me the appropriate ones. I would be most greatful. I only need the pen driver. everything else is working fine. 01-09-2003 08:19:59

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile There two floppy disks came with Amity for PenService, do you look at those? Anyway I have ghosted the Amity, maybe I can restore it to one of my desktop and create those floppy disks tonight. 01-09-2003 09:07:39

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i was working on it late last nite. i will check the disks tonite when i get home. i was so tired i was delirious 01-09-2003 09:38:50

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile can someone export the following registry key and email it to me along with the vpend.vxd from the Windows\system\vmm32 folder, i think that might work: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VPEND email: hancytrinkle at yahoo dot com Thanks much 01-09-2003 16:55:46

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile IT WORKED! - I loaded am image i made before wiping the drive to an old pc and booted to safe mode so as not to disturb the registry. I copied the vpend.vxd to disk and exported the reg key. deleted the exisitng reg key, merged the exported key, overwrote the vxd, rebooted and voila! man am i happy. 01-09-2003 18:00:36

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile Problems: Won't shutdown, even with disabling fast shutdown in msconfig and install 98 shhutdown supplent. Script error when running windows update IPF when logging on to aol instant messenger All these problems occured before building from scratch so it must be a hardware problem. Hopefully some issues will be resolved after a RAM upgrade. 01-10-2003 10:52:09

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile I had the problem with AIM causing a gpf both out of the box new AND after upgrading to IE5.5. I did encounter some problems trying to run a "windows update" before I upgraded to IE5.5 (i've got the full install - some 50+ megs - so it doesn't need to run through the 'update online' thingy), but after that, it went away. I've tried several versions of AIM, but all of them crash. Most likely AIM isn't designed to run on a 486-type cpu. SOMEWHERE, I've got older versions of AIM and one of those may work. I havent tried the java version yet -- that may work. I also got Trillian to work, but it's dog slow on this beastie. I also figured out the problem I was having getting this to play MP3s using MPXPLAY -- windows was mucking up the sound system making it sound like crap (strong hiss and static). If run in DOS mode, it sounds good -- up to 192 kbps with no skips. Maybe higher, I just haven't tested it. The specs I've read say it's upgradable to 6.1 gigs -- this weekend I'm going to try and upgrade to a 8 gig HD and cross my fingers. -jhon 01-10-2003 13:12:06

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile JhonR, How much ram do you have in your amity? 01-10-2003 13:46:19

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile I still have the base 16 megs. I'm going to upgrade it if/when I can find compatible memory that wont cost more than the unit itself. So far, 16 megs has been working for me. -jhon 01-10-2003 15:17:31

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile AIM problem solved. went to http://www.oldversion.com downloaded aim 2.0 works perfect. 01-10-2003 19:15:44

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i can't get mp3's to play at all. do you have anything in your config.sys or autoexec.bat? 01-11-2003 13:12:34

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Stupid questions time: Do you have regular windows sounds (startup, wav play, etc)? If not, are the sound drivers installed? Is the sound card active in BIOS? If you are playing it in a DOS window, make sure you've got the volume settings for both MAIN and WAV jacked up to make sure... You might also want to try the -scs ESS command line option, too. If nothing works, boot to DOS and try again. You can even map the numpad to new functions by changing the mpxplay.ini file settings. I've also noticed that playlists generated with long file names wont work in DOS mode unless you run DOSlfn.com and it's support SYS file. In a DOS window, it shouldn't matter. Also, if you set the monitor to shut off after a few minutes, play time increases significantly -- the LCD/backlight takes quite a bit of power, I guess. With the screen on, I get about 1.5-2 hours of play. With the screen off, it played about 4 hours and when I checked, battery levels were at around 40%. I also got it to play VCD quality video. It's a wee bit choppy but not as ghosty as the IOpener. I was surprised it worked as well as it did. 01-11-2003 16:50:12

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile sorry, i should have been more specific. i can hear the audio but it's exremely choppy to the point that it is unintelligable. then the system hangs and i have to hard reset. i've tried winamp, mpxplay and the default windows media player. all pretty much the same. 01-11-2003 17:04:02

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Even with MPXPLAY? Hmmm... whats the bitrate? I've gotten it to play well at 192 kbps. Does it do this in DOS mode, too (not just a DOS window)? (forget media player or winamp -- they just wont work unless you try and play 64kbps or lower... (it worked for some audio books I had). Did you upgrade to win98? The only thing I've done to mine is install IE5.5 and all the "critical updates". 01-11-2003 17:32:40

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) dreamlogic Profile Did anyone have any luck hooking up the serial port? I looked around for a connector that would fit the extended connector cable but couldn't find one. So I was thinking of running the transmit and recieve from the inside of the connector to the unused pins on the PS2 connector and making a adapter (PS2 -> Serial) from there. Is that a bad idea? I want to use this with my GPS and I think it only needs the transmit, recieve, and ground pins (though i haven't verified this yet) Anyways, I tried to open up the Amity but there was a large sheet of metal attaced to the bottom plastic cover that seemed to be glued something on the mainboard (probably the processor). I didn't have the guts to try any further. Has anyone here successfully opened up the amity? btw, winamp works on my machine for low bitrate stuff. I haven't tried the others yet (except coolplayer which crashes when it tries to play) I'm also running Win95 + IE5.5, 16MB ram Thanks! 01-12-2003 17:18:33

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i opened mine up. it is a pain in the butt. i just pulled it until the tape separated. 01-12-2003 18:20:03

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile still no luck getting mp3 audio to play smooth. wav's work fine. I haven't tried mpxplay in dos yet. i tried dowgrading the driver from the one 98 plug and plays to the one found in the amityset folder. nothing seems to work. the mp3's i'm testing with are 128kbps and 44mhz. this is really driving me nuts. yes, i did wipe the hard drive and install 98 from scratch. 01-13-2003 17:22:03

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Do this: right click MPXPLAY.EXE click on [Program] tab select Advanced make sure "DOS mode" is checked. apply/OK double click either the PIF or mpxplay.exe and POOF, DOS mode. I BET it's the resources win98 are taking are just TOO much. -jhon 01-13-2003 17:41:29

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i guess you were right because it plays fine in dos. but thats a bummer because i wanted to be ablt to do stuff in windows and listen to music but oh well. Any way i guess i won't be using it at all now. it seems i may have a bad power supply. batteries no longer charge and no power at all to the unit. this sucks i sent budfox an email. hopefully he can send me a replacement power supply but for now i'm dead in the water. what a bummer 01-13-2003 20:44:57

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Sorry to hear about your PS. On my unit, the plug has a little "play" on it. If it's not perfectly snug, no power. I need to be careful not to move it around while it's recharging. Also, regarding playing in windows, I CAN with mpxplay and win95 -- but you really can't do ANYTHING while it plays. The moment you even move the pen to the screen it starts skipping like crazy. This hardware is at the lower limit of playing MP3s. Maybe more memory will allow "background" MP3 playing... -jhon 01-13-2003 22:44:50

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile it seems laptops galore has strict warranty policies. since i did take the unit apart they will not honor the warranty so if the problems is in the tablet itself i am screwed. however if it is just the power supply then i shlouldn't have a problem. The thing is, i don't know if the problem is the computer or the ps. I know junkleo is in NJ. If your out there and you don't live to far from East Brunswick perhaps i can hook up with you and i could test my unit with yours. Let me know. Thanks 01-14-2003 07:12:40

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) cerulean Profile The accessory connector (serial/parallel/etc.) looks like it uses the same connector as the VHDCI used by Ultra160 and Ultra320 SCSI. http://www.scsicablesource.com/images/scsu-xxxx-xxx-vhdci.jpg Bob 01-14-2003 08:27:22

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) Gman12 Profile I too picked up an Amity VP off of ebay. After reading through the documentation and some of the web sites about upgrading to Win98 I was wondering where the utility was to create the system disks. Poking around, I found a link called "Create System Disks" under /Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools. The link goes to a program named mscsd.exe located in c:\windows\options. When I ran the program, it wanted to format a: and copy the files over. Not having a floppy drive I began to dig deeper. I found that mscsd.exe uses mscsd.inf located in c:\windows\inf. The inf file points to two ini files. One of them on my system, mscsd02.ini, contains the filenames that it wants to backup. For the most part it seems to be backing up to floppy the files located in c:\windows\options\cab\melco. (For some reason backslash c gives me the copyright symbol) Hopefully this will be a help to someone else. --gman12 01-15-2003 01:57:58

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) albrandwood Profile Thinking of getting 1 or more of these ... but I was wondering ... 1) Are the displays touchsensitive / can a finger be used on the display, in place of the pen? 2) Can the screen be read in bright (ie sun) light? Thanks @shley 01-15-2003 15:21:46

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile - 1) Are the displays touchsensitive / can a finger - be used on the display, in place of the pen? No. You need the "pen". The good news is, these seem to be standard for all pen-based PCs. My T200 pen works on the Amity and vice versa - 2) Can the screen be read in bright (ie sun) light? It's not great, but it is usuable in sunlight. You'll need to adjust the brightness knob based on angle and lighting constantly (which is a pain), but it's better than the old DTSN screens. Still not as nice as a TFT. -jhon 01-15-2003 15:46:56

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jayklm Profile Woohoo! got mine today!:) Although it is not in "NEW" condition, it works fine. I have a ST1200 and this is much lighter :). I like the protective cover for the screen. All I need to do is get more memory for this thing! I find it funny how they dont wipe the hard disk. The unit I have is from some retal store. It has installed "PRSPRISM" Figured out how to log in to it and now it is trying to contact the store via modem hahahah :) Any way I think if anyone can get this device for $100-140 should it seems like a nice small pen-based pc :) jay 01-16-2003 15:16:24

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) cerulean Profile JunkLeo, In one of your earlier posts you said that you had found a PDF for the cable assembly on a Japanese sight. Can you post a pointer to it? I'd like to try and bring out the serial port. TIA. Has anyone ordered a 32MB memory upgrade for the Amity VP and tried it out? If so could you post the part number and the source? I took mine apart last night so that I could remove the hard drive to get an image before I change the setup too much. There's not much wasted space inside. I think that motherboard actually says that it's an Amity VPN (I was in a hurry to get it back together before I forgot how it came apart). Bob. 01-16-2003 15:32:19

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) dreamlogic Profile i think this is the extended connector pinout. http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete/8259/amity/vpcon.pdf 01-16-2003 19:20:25

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) browcat Profile found these universial port replicators at this site: they are listed as working with the amity http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl another site is this http://shop.dunwell.com/info.html they sell on ebay also but the prices are the same and you dont have to wait for them to list. i sent for the 20 speed they were out so they sent the 24 speed at the same price. just be sure to make it a point!!!they send ac adapter with unit. http://www.datapro.net/products/UI-100.html http://www.byterunner.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=byterunner&product=USB+2.0+to+IDE+Adapter http://www.veriplus.com/pages/media-storage/UD-100.htm 01-16-2003 20:10:24

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) browcat Profile found these universial port replicators at this site: they are listed as working with the amity http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl another site is this http://shop.dunwell.com/info.html they sell on ebay also but the prices are the same and you dont have to wait for them to list. i sent for the 20 speed they were out so they sent the 24 speed at the same price. just be sure to make it a point!!!they send ac adapter with unit. http://www.datapro.net/products/UI-100.html http://www.byterunner.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=byterunner&product=USB+2.0+to+IDE+Adapter http://www.veriplus.com/pages/media-storage/UD-100.htm 01-16-2003 20:10:25

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) hod1 Profile I believe all of those links referenced USB accessories. The Amity VP does not have any USB ports built in. Has anyone had any luck finding or bulding a cable for the connector port? I tried to open the connector pinout pdf but adobe complains about not having the right font and the file is unreadable. I would really like to get a working serial port on this thing... 01-18-2003 14:47:21

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Have you thought about a PCMCIA serial adaptor? http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=pcmcia+serial -jhon 01-18-2003 14:53:38

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) cerulean Profile Hi Hod1, I got the pdf. You need to go to Adobe's site and load the Asian character support. The pin out table in the PDF is incomplete. It doesn't look like it came from Mitsubishi. I tried wiring up the serial port per the table yesterday, but it didn't work (easily could have been my implementation). Bob 01-18-2003 16:24:09

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) hod1 Profile Bob, Did you use the VHDCI connector that you posted earlier to connect to the Amity? Thanks 01-18-2003 16:46:19

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) cerulean Profile Hod1, I used a SCSI cable that was VHDCI to SCSI Wide (male). Then I made a short pig-tail that was SCSI wide (female) to DB-9 (male). The Amity didn't recognize the serial mouse that I connected via the cable and pigtail. Bob 01-19-2003 06:06:52

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email Well I have news. The memory came. It's the wrong size for the VP. I also received my "good deal" auction unit. It works sorta, the previous owner had changed over the OS and then tried to switch back with no drivers. It now has 2 versions of NT on it along with win95 again. I have a project. 01-21-2003 07:28:08

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) adam714 Profile Dell XPi memory works fine in the vp. Kingston part # KTD-XPICD/32. Available on ebay. Of course my vp is still not working. waiting for a replacement power supply. Junkleo seems to have disappeared. is their anyone else in new jersey i can hook up with to test my amity? 01-21-2003 08:11:00

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ohalo Profile Just downloaded the extended connector pinout from http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete/8259/amity/vpcon.pdf (thanks to dreamlogic) I had to upgrade from Adobe Reader 4.0 to 5.1 and install the Japanese Language upgrade to get it to be read by Adobe Reader without a CMap error. The Japanese notes (thanks to a Japanese friend) near the following pins effectively say that you need a MAX232 or equivalent as a level converter. The inputs are 3V to 5V (but not 12V!) tolerant. out SOUT 17 out /DTR 18 in /DSR 19 in /DCD 20 51 /RTS 52 /SIN (in) 53 /CTS 54 /RI The 5x pins are not marked in/out in the chart. Alignment hint: pin 17 is across from pin 51. pins 1-34 are on the "wide" side of the connector. You will also need to pickup ground somewhere. Pin 50 seems to be a nearby ground. But pin 1 or 34 might be better given where 3.3V is to be found You will also need 3.3V to power the level converter. 3.3V is available at pins 2 and 33. Note that all of this is according to the chart. Which may or may not be correct. Be careful with the power and ground connections! Have not tried any of this yet. My application would CRITICALLY depend on the (native) serial port working, so I am holding back on buying the Amity until I hear someone has gotten it to work. I would expect a PCMCIA serial adapter to have a BIOS conflict with the onboard serial. Has anyone looked at the BIOS yet? I expect you would need a keyboard? Or is it a catch22 with pen services *sigh*? 01-21-2003 21:13:16

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile > I would expect a PCMCIA serial adapter to have a BIOS > conflict with the onboard serial. > Has anyone looked at the BIOS yet? It might. But you can disable the onboard serial port in the BIOS. Or re-assign it. You don't even need a keyboard to do it -- its a custom "pen aware" BIOS. Pen to get in, pen to navigate, pen to change values. -jhon 01-21-2003 23:16:55

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) dreamlogic Profile I've been trying to hook up the serial port but I've been getting some strange results. I first hooked up pins 17 and 52 to the ps2 port (pins 2 and 6) but that didn't work at all. I don't know if it damaged anything that could lead to my current problem Right now, I'm pulling pins 17, 52, and 31 from inside of the connector (using wire-wrap wire) and hooking it up to another computer via null modem cable. I'm running hyperterminal on both, using 9600 baud, no parity, 1 stop bit, and flow control disabled (tried a couple of other settings but it didn't work). They'll talk to each other, but in a different language. Here's the mapping 0 -> (spade) 1 -> g 2 -> 3 4 -> (down arrow) 5 -> e 6 -> 2 7 -> d 8 -> (clear) 9 -> c a,c,e,g,i,...,y -> O,N,M,L,K,...,C It seems to be symmetric. If I type in normal characters on either computer, I get the strange results on the other. Anyone have a clue what is causing this or how to fix it? 01-22-2003 17:15:29

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) gotroot Profile dreamlogic: I'm fighting with the serial port too. I got a SCSI VHDCI cable, cut in half, to avoid soldering. Looking at your "a,c,e,g,i,...,y -> O,N,M,L,K,...,C" problem: Ascii 7-bit for "a" = 1100001, ascii 7-bit for "O" = 100111. If you shift the binary value for "O" to the left by one and the inverse the output it you get the "a". This works for your other characters too. I guess the signals from / to the Amity are inverted, we will need to buy or build some hardware which inverts the 3.3V-Amity-invers-serial-port to a standard RS232 port. This will probably take care of the shifted bits too since the start/stop bits will be detected properly. Any ideas anybody? /gotroot 01-24-2003 13:08:12

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) browcat Profile I got this docking station and it seem to be working o.k. with the vp http://www.stores.ebay.com/americanstarlex/plistings/list/all/dept2/index.html 01-24-2003 20:26:00

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) dreamlogic Profile Thanks gotroot! now the stuff ohalo wrote about the MAX232 level converter makes sense to me. I guess I should have read it a little more closely. Here's a little more information about the MAX232 http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/MAX232/MAX232.htm it looks like it also requires a capacitor but the same page also mentions the DS275 which would be cleaner if it works http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/arpdf/DS275.pdf maxim-ic.com even has free samples :) 01-24-2003 21:16:22

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Randomluck Profile | Email http://www.stores.ebay.com/americanstarlex/plistings/list/all/dept2/index.html 01-25-2003 00:43:33

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile I'm happy to say i'm back in busines. budfox shipped me a new ac adapter and i'm wokring agin. I've got mpxplay working in dos. Now if i could get my wireless working in dos i canpull ,p3's from my network share. Anyone have any ideas on what card and socket services to use or point enabler or something? 01-26-2003 09:57:49

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) dreamlogic Profile the internal serial port works with the MAX232 chip (at least with my garmin gps). i stuffed the chip and capacitors in one of the battery bays and drilled a hole in the side for a miniplug port to send out the RX/TX/Ground. A small adaptor cable converts it to a standard DB9 serial port. A DS275 should be much smaller and cleaner if it works. 02-27-2003 13:47:25

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Malador Profile | Email just wondering, how exactly can i load software.is there any way to connect it to the pc, can i load software without having to use a PC card CD-ROM 02-28-2003 17:45:43

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile I guess you COULD use the built-in IR port... if your PC has an IR port. A cheap PCMCIA NIC is the way to go -- you can find them on ebay for less than 20 delivered. Or new for not much more... -jhon 02-28-2003 18:20:35

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Malador Profile | Email Well i do have an IR port. what is a NIC.(sorry i usually work with wince) 02-28-2003 18:48:34

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) pdp1145 Profile | Email Malador "Well i do have an IR port. what is a NIC.(sorry i usually work with wince)" Well with wince you would not have one. A NIC is a Network Interface Card. I.E. Ethernet card etc. Max 03-01-2003 06:59:28

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) hod1 Profile The problem with adding a NIC is getting the driver loaded first. I used a pcmcia compact flash adapter to load files on my Amity. It sees the adapter as a standard IDE drive and did not require me to load any drivers to use. 03-02-2003 10:43:52

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile Use a PCMCIA compact flash adaptor. Load the drivers on to a CF card. Move them to the amity. Install the drivers. Insert PCMCIA nic. OR Install PCMCIA modem (non winmodem). Set up as a standard modem. Dial up internet. Download NIC drivers. Install NIC drivers. Install PCMCIA NIC. -jhon 03-02-2003 21:05:06

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) Zogg Profile Since it's powered by 14VDC it should work just fine in a car. Has anyone tried it? I'm looking to use it with a GPS and mapping software such as Streets and Trips or Street Atlas. I see no problems but comments are welcome. 03-11-2003 21:08:18

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) preacher Profile | Email Does anyone have a lead for replacement batteries or restoring the batteries? Mine have begun to operate for about 1/2 hour before going to sleep. When I first received it, the VP would run nearly 2 hours without a recharge. TIA! 03-13-2003 19:26:17

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) thewyz Profile | Email What kind of pcmcia cards does the amity take? I noticed that my CF adapter card slid in perfectly easily, but both a wireless as well as a wired NIC just would not fit. It seems that the shape of the NIC cards are slightly different? Sorry if this is a dumb newbie question. Thanks 03-31-2003 19:16:37

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile thewyz, I think Amity only supports 16-bit PCMCIA cards, not 32-bit PCMCIA Cardbus cards. 03-31-2003 21:16:20

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ranman Profile Unfortunately, the VP does not take a cardbus card. My dlink dwl-650 is cardbus and won't fit in. It does however take the 16-bit cards (my symbol spectrum24 works very nicely). I am currently running win98se. I initially did the upgrade over win95, but decided to start over again. Strangely enough, I put win98se .cabs files on it, and after it rebooted the 2nd time, the amity did not recognize the drive. I took the HD and used a win98se computer to 'sys' the drive, and it worked. Also, on my drive, there is a strange partition on there with something to do with a power saving mode. Anyone else have that? Could this be something that causes a problem with shutdown? Mine won't shutdown properly even with fast shutdown disabled. I have streets & trips 2002 on there and it works nicely. I still only have the 16megs, but I will get more RAM soon. Loading S&T2002 takes a very long time (1 minute +) but then the screen refreshes aren't too bad. Unfortunately, with the full S&T2002 on there, there is only about 200megs or so left, depending on the size of the swapfile. I also downloaded a video driver that allows for a 16bit screen and it is MUCH better than just 256 colors (8-bit) and it doesn't seem too be to slow at redrawing the screen. If anyone finds a source for the port replicator so that I can connect my garmin gps, please let me know. If anyone wants to put one together, let me know too. ranman 04-06-2003 22:51:08

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile the strange partition is for the suspend to disk feature. it should be left alone. i wiped it when i rebuilt mine and now i get a warning whenever i boot and i can't suspend. not a problem, just annoying. her is a link to fix the shutdown problem: http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeatured/Win98SE/Default.asp Can u post more info for that 16bit video driver? Also, i am using a usr2410 wireless pc card. works great and inexpensive. http://www.usr.com/products/networking/wireless-product.asp?sku=USR2410 04-07-2003 09:22:29

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ranman Profile When I first got my amity (about 2 months ago), I remember that it had a 16bit color mode. But when I did a fresh install of win98se, that mode was no longer there as it had naturally used a different driver. So, at that time, I downloaded the file about 2 months ago. When I did the reinstall, and after doing all of the windows updates, I loaded that driver. I just took a look at it now, and apparently it is a windows95 driver. It works very well in win98se. The ONLY problem that I have encountered is when I was trying to use the pen recognition when I had VNC version 3.3.6 loaded. I would get a windows exception error after using the pen for some period of time between say 5 and 30 seconds, and then the pen was no longer functional. So, after I unloaded VNC, it has worked perfectly. Otherwise, pictures look much nicer at 64k colors than 256. The speed doesn't seem to be much slower - but I haven't done any tests. The driver is chips95.drv and is dated 6/4/1997 and time 2:03AM. The version is 4.03.2203 (or more simply 2.03) The file is only 93 Kbytes long. I have scanned the file with norton AV and it comes up clean. I uploaded it to my geocities site. Hopefully, since it is so small, it won't cause a problem. This driver worked for me with win98se, but I don't know if it will work with win98 first edition so I can't make any guarantees. This is the link: http://www.geocities.com/ranman/amityvideo203.zip ranman 04-07-2003 13:12:49

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ranman Profile I also came across this driver, but I have not yet downloaded it or tried it. If anyone else does, please report how it works. http://appsr.cps.intel.com/scripts-df/Detail_Desc.asp?agr=N&ProductID=78&DwnldID=2760 The support information link on that page goes over some helpful info. ranman 04-07-2003 16:09:39

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile The strange partition is created by PHDISK.EXE to use for "Save to Disk", it could be a file also. All my Amity, CF-01, F-1200 which are using Pheonix Bios can use PHDISK.EXE to rebuild the file or partition (especially need to do it when you added more memory or deleted the file/partition) you can download the file PHDISK.EXE from: http://www.topline.nl/Drivers/3600/phdisk.exe 1.7 What is the function of PHDISK.EXE program and how to use it? Answer: The PHDISK utility of the notebook allows you to create a Suspend-To-Disk (STD) partition or file that is used to save the opened files when you activate STD mode and power off the computer. If you want to make use of the STD feature, you need first to run the PHDISK utility. You could see a message appear in a red column during Power On Self Test before you execute the PHDISK.EXE. The red column displays ?Save To Disk file not found. Save to Disk feature is disabled. Run Phdisk for information. File: creat new. Partition: consult manual. Hit any key to exit. ?The above message will disappear after you have execute the Phdisk.exe. The Phdisk program has support FAT 16 and FAT 32 format also. To know the more detail information about PHDISK, you could execute Phdisk /? on the command from the directory where the PHDISK command is located. (copied from http://pcg.fic.com.tw/A440/A440FAQ.htm#1.7) 04-07-2003 21:29:52

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile Has anyone had any luck putting Linux on this device? Mine comes next week. Is the HD a regular laptop drive or is it PCMCIA? I take it I will need a floppy drive in order to install Linux because there is no other way to boot, correct? Where can I find a floppy drive for the Amity? One more--- Are there pen drivers for X that are compatable with the Amity? Will Wacom drivers work? 04-08-2003 10:14:30

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ranman Profile Jstef, Yes, it is a regular laptop hard drive. Unfortunately, actually getting to it is more difficult than with the dynapads that I have. You actually have to take the amity apart to get to it, and then undo the 4 screws securing the drive to the board. To do a fresh install of win98se, I took the amity apart, removed the HD and put it in an external USB case, and used a win98se computer (actually a compaq ia-1) to format it and copy over the .cab files. Then I put it back in the amity (but did not completely put it back together - but almost), and after the 2nd reboot of the win98se install, the drive was not recognized. So I had to take it back out, and I used the sys command on the drive. Now it works fine. I have it back together completely, and I don't want to have to take it apart again. So if you are going to install linux, make sure you have if FULLY working before putting the amity back together. Hopefully the 32megs of RAM will arrive soon, and I will report what difference it makes in win98se. ranman 04-08-2003 19:14:35

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile ranman, thanks for the help! I think I will have to crack this thing open and do the linux install on the desktop, then throw the drive back into the Amity. Hmmmmmm... Anyone know anything about the X drivers? 04-08-2003 19:23:28

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 1 times) JunkLeo Profile To fresh-install win98 is much easier than Linux. You just copy the Windows 98 CD to Amity HD (by network, Compact flash card or PCMCIA HD) + the network card win98 driver. Restart to DOS command, rename the "Program Files" and "Windows" folders to other name, and rename win.com to win.old then run the Win98 setup. I have brought another dead Amity, opened it and took out the HD. Believe me, it is hard to put it back. Just stick with Win95 or WIn98. if you really want to run Linux, maybe you can try to use PartitionMagic and WinLinux. http://www.winlinux.net/2003/ 04-08-2003 22:06:05

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile Free version of WinLinux 2003 http://download.com.com/3000-2035-10144070.html?tag=list 04-08-2003 22:34:58

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile Well, I will try Windows first, but I am sure that it will not meet my needs. I am planning to run Slackware 9 on the Amity. 04-09-2003 05:57:09

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile WinLinux 2003 may not work because it needs at least 1.6GB free HD space, last night I tried to install WinLinux on VMWare Win98 with 2GB harddrive, I almost deleted everything except Windows folder, WinLinux still complained no HD space. The other way is to use PartitionMagic to create 2 partitions, then under Win95 copy your Linux image to 2nd partition, then use ghost to restore the image to the first partition. You have to make sure all necessary files for communication are in the Linux image, otherwise after you restore the image, you cannot copy any file because you cannot boot to win95 any more. 04-09-2003 10:18:25

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile WinLinux looks extremely crippled to me. I have always used Slackware, so that's what I'll continue to use. I will probably clean out all the garbage on the Amity's HD, mirror the drive to a file, RAR it up and burn it to a CD or two. That way I can bring it back to its original state if something goes wrong. I know which distro I will be using, its the tablet drivers that scare me. I have no idea if the Amity's tablet is supported by a linux driver. If the tablet is a WACOM, it may work with these: http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~flepied/projects/wacom/ 04-09-2003 15:58:47

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile Another question: Can the Amity boot to PCMCIA? If I put a PCMCIA flash card or Hard Drive in, is there a BIOS setting to boot to this? That would work great because I could make a PCMCIA 'boot disk' and I could go straight into a 2nd Linux partition. 04-09-2003 16:01:39

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) jstef Profile Well, I got my Amity today... First impressions: Getting the Hard Drive out is a pain in the ass! Well, it's not too bad, it took me about 10 minutes, but there's a bunch of ribbon cables you have to be gentle with. There's also a lot of copper shielding to deal with. I think just about anyone who frequents this board would be able to get the HD out on their own. I forgot that the drive was going to need a special connector, so I went over to CompUSA and tried to find a 2.5 to 3.5 adaptor, but none of the droids could help me find it. Now I remember why I hate CompUSA so much. I ordered a USB enclosure for the drive so I don't have to break open my desktop tower every time I want to modify something. My cheapo wireless cards come tomorrow so I'll try to rig those up in Windows 95 for the time being. The digitiser is definatly WACOM (I saw the chips inside), which means theres a pretty good chance I can get it up and running under X Windows in Linux. I hope this thing can run X and TightVNC without being slow as all hell. I'm going to look for a way to map the keypad to some command line macros so that I can open up apps from bash without a keyboard. That one is going to take me a while. I might put up a webpage detailing how to put Linux on the Amity... anyone interested? Better yet, has anyone done it? 04-14-2003 20:40:53

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) thewyz Profile | Email Just got back to playing with the Amity. Loaded 98SE and found that pen services remains intact. Used CF->PCMCIA to load drivers for a Belkin wireless card and all seems to work. I'm surfing wirelessly now. What's the best current version browser to use? IE actually seems to run better/faster than mozilla. I tried the free version of opera, but much of the limited screen real estate is being used by ads. Any lingering interest in this? 06-23-2003 10:44:01

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) adam714 Profile i still use mine. also running 98se. i use IE 5.5 and all works fine. i'd be more interested in getting mp3s to play. seems like the only option is dos but can't stream in dos. unless someone has any ideas 06-23-2003 15:21:31

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JunkLeo Profile Try SlimBrowser: http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/sbrowser.htm I don't know the performance on Amity because I use it on MegaFrame remotely. But it is very good web browser. 06-23-2003 19:12:30

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) thewyz Profile | Email Any word on where to get additional memory for a reasonable price? I tried slim browser, but it seemed to be slower than ie6. Strange... 06-26-2003 18:08:12

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) ickool Profile I loaded win95 and it makes it thru the install but during the first bootup it the computer locks up. Does anyone have the pen dirves? h2omantx@yahoo.com Thanks 12-03-2003 18:35:40

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP - battries 1.99 a set (modified 0 times) MEJONES Profile http://sales.goldmine-elec.com/prodinfo.asp?prodid=3430 These can be used to replace those that com with the amity. I bought mine when they were 5.oo I have modified 4 battery modules and it takes about 30 min each from start to finish. My Amity VP lasted about 3 hours giv or take. Does anyone know what kind of memory module this takes? 12-23-2003 14:10:03

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) MEJONES Profile Anyone got a clue on how to make these recognize a wireless card? Symbol Spectum24 05-18-2004 13:32:24

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) JhonR Profile I found that a Netgear 802.11b MA401 PCMCIA card works fine in both win95 and win98(se). I get pretty decent range, too. So far, my batteries still hold a charge for almost 2 rock-solid hours of internet browsing. 05-18-2004 16:18:35

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) kc5yaf Profile | Email Anyone had problems with the internal keypad- I/O module (numeric and arrows, power switch, speaker/mic jacks) not comming up? I have checked the FPC (Flexible Printed Circuit) connector and all is well there. This occured after a Win95B reload. I have all of the drivers for everything else, and the external PS/2 keyboards work fine, but no LED's or keypad buttons are functioning. Is there a driver that I missed? Thankfully, Mitsu thought of the hard reset/power switch in the back or I would be in a mess. Dave - KC5YAF 06-03-2004 18:16:17

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) MEJONES Profile Can anyone detail how in the heck to install WIn98. I have a floppy but no matter which slot it always shows as D: I need a to create the driver disks. .What is the best way to install 98? Seems someone is doing it cause there selling these devices on ebay with 98se. I emailed several sellers but got no answer. I'm stumped. (and I guess stupid) Any help would really be appreciated. 06-05-2004 17:48:13

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) thewyz Profile | Email I copied the CABs to the hard drive over ethernet (you could also use a CF or other memory card) and did an upgrade to 98SE. It seems a bit slower, but all the pen functionality still works, as does my belkin 802.11b card. 06-05-2004 23:25:38

RE:Mitsubishi Amity VP (modified 0 times) galiron Profile first Sorry for posting here but i couldnt think of where else to put it. I was able to pick up 4 of these for $5each and I'm looking for some information. 1.Whats the max HD size i can put in these. 2.What are the specs on the ram they can use pins,voltage, type prefer info on the 32meg sticks so i can max them out. 3.Names and model numbers of useable PCMCIA NICs and any other interesting PCMCIA cards you may have found working like tv tuner cards or even early USB card. 4.Currently I have one redone with windows 98se(drives where wiped) and would like to know what version of different apps i can use like yahoo messanger browsers etc for win98se, normal win98 if theres any differences and of course win95osr2 I basicly plan to mount 2 on each side of my main monitor and use them for light mp3 use and web page monitoring maybe even some video watching if their useable for that and maybe anything else i may be able to play around with them. 5.Has anyone installed linux on these yet(im sure someone has lol) if so which version and other stuff did you have to do to get it on there. 6.And last are there any fun mods that can be done to it. Thank you in advance. 11-10-2005 08:27:52

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